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Dutch Lesson 2

Dutch Lesson 2

Posted 07-22-2009 at 12:21 AM by Clair Voyant
Updated 07-22-2009 at 01:01 AM by Clair Voyant
[QUOTE=Silenia]There's Kindergarten, even though it has another name. At 2 or 3, you're not obligated to be there. Same at 4, but almost all children are at Kindergarten then. From 5 onwards, you're obligated to be at kindergarten.
Kindergarten for 2 or 3 is named 'peuterspeelzaal' (literal translation: 'toddler play room'), for 4 and 5 'kleuterschool' ('toddler school' - we have a difference between toddlers of 2/3 and 4/5). Kleuterschool is divided between groep 1 and 2. Groep 1 (Literal translation of 'groep': group or class or grade) is the 4-years-old, groep 2 is 5-years-old. These two groups are together, they're not divided between different classrooms. When you're 6, you go to 'groep 3', which is (I believe) similar to first grade. There is no dividing between different levels of 'intelligence' until after groep 8 - the kids are then 12 years old.
Then there are three main 'directions', of which the lowest is VMBO, then there is HAVO and VWO. VMBO is divided in four minor directions. There is some difference between them, but this is not really important - better said, there is VMBO-t and the three other VMBO-directions. VMBO-t is theoretic, the other three directions are practical or mixed. This takes four years - after this you can either choose to go to HAVO, if you did VMBO-t - the fourth year of it - or to the MBO, no matter which form of VMBO you did. HAVO is theoretic and of a higher level than VMBO. It is five years. After it you can choose to go to VWO, fifth year, or to HBO. VWO is higher than HAVO and split up in two directions - Atheneum and Gymnasium. Gymnasium is similar to Atheneum, but also teaches Ancient Greece and Latin. There are a few more, minor differences, but nothing important. VWO takes six years. If you finish VWO, you usually chose to do either HBO or you go to University.
MBO often teaches the more practical crafts, sometimes theoretic as well. You learn an actual craft there. For example florist or repairing cars, but sometimes also the more theoretic crafts like receptionist.
HBO is higher. You most often learn the more theoretic crafts there, like journalism or social worker. Of course these crafts are also practical, but they have a big theoretic component in their studies.
University is similar or the same to what you know. It's named 'universiteit' here, but further there are few differences.
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At the end of group 8, your teacher gives an advice and you make a couple of tests. Based on this, there are schooltypes you can or cannot go to - this to avoid people that are of VMBO-level accidentally ending up in VWO, etc.
Usually there are many schools in a relatively close radius. Near where I live there's a city. I believe we have 9 or 10 schools for VO - voortgezet onderwijs - which is what VMBO, HAVO and VWO all are.
You can choose which school you want to go to, and somewhat which level. If you get a mixed advice, like HAVO/VWO, and you do well on your CITO - that's the tests - you can often choose whether you want HAVO or VWO.
If you choose for VWO, you can decide whether you want Gymnasium or Atheneum.
If you go to VMBO, you can usually choose between one or two of the four directions, based upon the tests and advice.
After you finish VMBO, HAVO or VWO, you can choose for University, HBO or MBO. If you finished VWO, you can easily get to both University and HBO, and to certain MBO-studies (but not those based upon the practical crafts you learn in certain directions of VMBO). If you go to HAVO and finish it, you can go to HBO, but not University, usually, and to certain MBO-studies, similar to those available when you've finished VWO. If you've finished VMBO, you can do certain MBO-studies, based upon which direction of VMBO you did.
MBO, HBO and University all come after VMBO, HAVO and VWO, which all come after you finished the 'basisschool' (basic school).


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So amazing. Their learning system is so much more intense than the American system, but some much better, by the sounds of it. I wish that that's how the American System worked! :O[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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Old Comment Posted 07-22-2009 at 06:45 AM
[COLOR=#0F8A7D][SIZE="1"]I wish the American school system was more like that. No wonder everyone laughs at our schooling D:[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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