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Moogle 06-05-2008 05:05 AM

Post maker powers
 
When we make a post, we should be able to delete our posts. That's one that could be done. It's simple and low priority....but still just something from Randall again.

comotized 06-05-2008 05:30 AM

That's a good idea and it would certainly free up some time for the admins/mods of menewsha but the downside to letting members delete their own posts is that if a fight should ever break out (for whatever reason) a user could erase any traces of their part in it.

it's good yet bad at the same time. most users would only use it for good but there are always a few that would take advantage of it as well.

Jennifer 06-05-2008 05:45 AM

Staff I'm sure already deliberated over this subject and purposely chose not to allow users to delete their posts. For the purpose as comotized stated; as users would be able to delete all traces of something...like when in bidding and whatnot.

jellysundae 06-05-2008 08:22 AM

This has been covered elsewhere Randall. Sadly we can't allow users to delete their own posts, because it can lead to cheating in contests, and even worse, people deleting posts that would have got them into a lot of trouble and getting out of warnings that they fully deserved : /

We did allow users to have this ability when we first switched onto the software that we currently use, but because people abused it, we had to disable the function :(

Anoni 06-05-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellysundae (Post 3325230)
...and even worse, people deleting posts that would have got them into a lot of trouble and getting out of warnings that they fully deserved : /



What does that include? O; Flaming and then editing it?

jellysundae 06-05-2008 08:34 AM

Well, people do that anyway :sweat:
I was thinking of a particular incident when someone made another exchange thread, was about given a warning for it, but because only they had posted in it, they deleted all the posts and denied ever having made another one in the first place, that kind of thing..

Kalliste 06-05-2008 09:14 AM

I think it sounds like a good idea. I didn't realise we didn't have that option :)

the only concerns I could see would be as prebviously stated and also I assume all gold earned in those threads would also be removed.

What about the option to lock our own threads instead... do we have that option?

jellysundae 06-05-2008 04:25 PM

no, I don't think that's an option on any forum site is it?

Moogle 06-05-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellysundae (Post 3325230)
This has been covered elsewhere Randall. Sadly we can't allow users to delete their own posts, because it can lead to cheating in contests, and even worse, people deleting posts that would have got them into a lot of trouble and getting out of warnings that they fully deserved : /

We did allow users to have this ability when we first switched onto the software that we currently use, but because people abused it, we had to disable the function :(

Oh, ok. Just sayin' :P You know Randall and his crazy ideas. *tosses idea back into crazy idea vault*

King 06-05-2008 08:16 PM

It was worth asking about it Randall, but as others have pointed out it can lead to trouble.

What if you were to make a nifty, fully composed post in the General Discussion forum that fully contributed to the discussion, but the thread creator just deleted it for no reason and you lost the gold you earned from that post. It may be hard to believe that a user would do this, but on forum sites you can never predict the actions of others.

Moogle 06-05-2008 10:52 PM

Noo! I didn't mean thread making powers. I meant only the post maker gets to delete it. If the thread maker could delete the posts, they might as well be mods right?

Rusalka 06-05-2008 11:32 PM


Randall the thing is, if the Original poster deletes the first post of the thread the entire thread will be deleted. Meaning everyone who made gold there would lose the gold they earned because their posts would also be deleted.

That is what King was getting at.

orlybirdy 06-06-2008 12:23 AM

I can see what problems could, and apparently did, occur. Although--and I'm not sure what problems this would cause coding-wise--what about allowing a user to delete a post, so long as there hasn't been a response? In other words, only posts that have not been responded to would be deletable by the poster? I know that during the Jubilee event, there were some lag problems that caused double posting, so in that situation, it'd be nice to be able to delete a post if you caught it fast enough.

Again, that might be a coding nightmare, but it would allow some post deleting for accidents, computer issues, etc., if it were doable, without allowing for most of those abuses to occur. ^.^

King 06-06-2008 01:05 AM

We used to have a feature like this, but it was disabled for reasons I do not know of.

If you ever double post accidentally and catch it, PM a moderator and we'll delete it happily without giving you an infraction...just as long as you catch it and it was accidental.

Rusalka 06-06-2008 02:35 AM


orlybird; We used to have that available back on the old system, but with this system it is all or nothing. And since people had been abusing it when it was enabled for them it was decided that it'd be turned off.

Fabby 06-06-2008 11:36 AM

But we had the option to delete posts in the old software. Why is it all the sudden causing issues?

I hate it when I make a post and then later have to delete it because I wanted to retract my statement. Yes, for legitimate reasons.

Saisei 06-06-2008 01:59 PM

On the old software, you could only delete your post if nobody had replied to it. That's not possible on this software, and it simply wouldn't work to allow users to delete any of their posts whenever they wanted, for all of the reasons already stated.

ellaangelus 06-07-2008 01:29 PM

yeah i am also wanting this feature, cause because of some errors, i'm double posting and it's not my fault

Saisei 06-07-2008 02:08 PM

If you accidentally double post, you can use the report button to report the post and a moderator will take care of it. (and quickly, given the speed with which reports are handled lately)

jellysundae 06-07-2008 09:29 PM

Ok, the reason it is different now, is because..on the old software, you could only delete your last post, and only then, if no-one else had posted after you.

That option doesn't exist on this software, if we allow people to delete their own posts, they can delete ALL of their posts. Because of reasons that have already been mentioned in here, we cannot allow that. So this option is not going to be available, at all.

Paprika 06-07-2008 10:36 PM

I dont want this to happen...obviously it wont but a good reason why we shouldnt put it in would be, page prizes....a lot of people on Gaia will delete their posts till they are #1 on the desired page...now i know most mene users wont do this but it CAN and WILL happen...other things like previously stated would be people removing their posts if they were getting into some sort of fight....sure they can erase whats in the post but the actual post being there and empty would look bad for them too etc....and im rambling cause im tired :D

anywho, no! XD /scuttles AFK

Oriental 06-21-2008 03:34 PM

Oh.. I thought we could already do that.. but I just didn't know how..
:feels better now:
Yea, I accidentally double posted on my other account so I just quoted everything and used a "." so I could re-post it as that instead.
..Does that make any sense?

Mmkay, so I report it the next time I double post then?

Melody 06-21-2008 04:45 PM

Peach- yeah if you ever double post on accident (the server hicups and makes your post submit twice or you hit the button too many times and it doesn't catch it etc) yeah go ahead and report it. you won't get a warning for it a mod will just be notified and we can come and take care of it for you. (:

If you are posting to bring a thread back to the first page double posting is ok and nothing would need to be done.

Seiki Nova 06-28-2008 02:46 AM

The thing with accidental double posting now though, is that it's near impossible to do with this forum software. The probability of someone double posting now is very low because in this software, you can't refresh the submitting of a post, and going back because of a time-out error to the create a post page you were just on to post will not allow you to submit your post if it had already been submitted even with the time out error. You would physically have to go back to the thread you were on and physically click Post Reply again and redo your message. Also, the Quick Reply will literally tell you if you double posted the same message.

Now I'm probably one of few who bothers to check the recent posts with the Post Reply page so I don't know if others would bother checking for their posts there in the event of a time out error, but that would be the only way that I could think of people successfully double posting on accident.

jellysundae 06-28-2008 03:48 PM

You can accidentally double-post, it happened to me only yesterday actually, with no indication that it had happened, but they both showed up on the recent activity on the front page so I saw it and deleted one.

but usually it's caused by a hiccup in the software, But accidental double-posting is evident anyway, because both posts say the same thing. No-one's ever going to get into trouble for that.


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