I'm still too newly irritated by it to put it into words. xD;
But have you heard Katy Perry's "Teenage Dream"?

The lyrics make me rage. She's a girl that has a lot of influence on younger people (and yeah, I know, she also did I Kissed A Girl) and yet she sings these songs about sex like it's the teenage dream? I know she talks about love to, but even the video is mostly about sex. :roll: If she wanted to write a respectable song it'd be more like

I know from experience how unprotected sex can end. I mean, I love my daughter to death but if it weren't for my aunt, uncle and grandparents she and I would be struggling BIG TIME. And it's not just pregnancy to worry about.

RAGERAGERAGE.

Ahem...>.> Sorry if it doesn't make any sense at all.

oh i see what you mean... i don't really listen much to her music, so i guess i don't know her lyrics... but someone with that much influence on the younger generation should have a little more brains and think about those things

*huggles Strelly* I hate to hear songs that glorify sex. O_o' Especially aimed at teenagers. Sheesh, I know the hormones are raging but kids should have enough self control and self respect to wait and to be careful. Five minutes of woohoo isn't worth a lifetime of regret. And no I haven't heard the song but it sounds like it would probably upset me.

Linn - That's what I'm saying. I mean, why would you put lyrics like

In your songs? Buh. It's just no okay.

Boo - It really bugs me. People wonder WHY we have so much issue with teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases? Because people like Katy Perry glorify it and just ugh.

My daughter's teenage dream had better do with graduating and going to college or I'mma kick some kiddy butt!

Okay, not really. xP But just... *huffs*

Teenagers have some really horrible role models nowadays. Of course, they did when I was one as well. Scratch that....I was never really a teenager. I pretty much chose to skip everything a teenager is "supposed" to do. No rebellion, no wild oats, no partying, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs, no learning to drive, you get the idea. When I was in high school I absolutely loathed my peers as a group. I had two pretty good friends and few other people that didn't make me want to hit them every time they spoke. The rest were a source of constant aggravation, disgust, and fear.

I admit I have some...er....issues. O_o' This is why I could never teach high school. I couldn't stand teenagers in groups, even when I was the same age. Individually they aren't so bad but somehow their brains shut off when they start to congregate. At least that seemed to be the way with all the ones I went to school with. O_O'

No offense to anyone who may still fit in the age group in question. I've never met anyone on mene that was like my high school classmates. *shrugs*

Anyway, I wish things would go back to being a bit less morally ambiguous. Then again, where are the parents who are supposed to guide their kids and help them to develop into responsible, well-mannered adults. They're blaming the media for corrupting their children. It isn't the media's fault. It's the parents fault for letting the TV and radio do the raising. I may have been (and still am) socially stunted but my parents took the time to teach me common courtesy and educated and encouraged me to make good choices.

Sorry...ranting and rambling. I should sleep. ^_^'

Night! *huggles*

Yeah, I think I get even more annoyed with it because the schools form of "sex ed" (when I was in high school anyway) was abstinence-only and then you have someone like Katy Perry writing a song that specifically has the word TEENAGER in the friggin' title making it look like a blasty-blast. While I understand that abstinence is the way to go I think that schools and parents need to be more fucking realistic about teenagers. The more you say no, the more they want to go, go, go! If you did a comprehensive sex ed and started it EARLIER, we probably wouldn't have as many teen pregnancies and STIs as we do. Look at Europe! Learn from other countries!

I know, I sound like a hypocrite 'cause I was pregnant at 17 but I was actually too scared to admit that I was sexually active because it was so taboo in my household and my ex-husband's household that I thought they would all look down on me. :\ And just telling a kid NO without a good reason behind it will never work.

Yeah, I actually lived most of my teenage years before I even went to high school. :oops: I smoked pot, cigarettes & drank all the time through the ages of like 12-15. Then I moved in with my aunt and saw how much better of a role model she was in comparison to my mother (who use to buy me the alcohol). So when I started high school, I wasn't interested in the same stuff. But I also hated my peers - a lot - I hated how stupid they were, fake and just ugh. I got along better with my teachers than I did with most of my peers. I had two friends that I really talked to and one of them was my cousin. xP

Anyway, night Boo!

*huggles* My elementary school had a sex ed class. It was voluntary and our parents had to sign a consent form for the guidance counselor to explain to us that boys and girls have different parts. ^_^' I came home all excited and told my mommy that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. :rofl: I think it was in second or third grade. Didn't hear about the subject again until middle school. I seem to recall them teaching abstinence as the best option but they also offered counseling to anyone who wanted to talk further. It was a pretty good program. *shrugs* At that time in my life I was totally not interested in sex. I was a fairly late bloomer.

Alright. I'll be on tomorrow sometime. *huggles* Nighty-night. :sleep: :drool:

I remember in middle school we did "Baby Think It Overs" which I think are the dumbest thing ever because having a real baby is nothing like this stupid dolls. x___X; And I think scare tactics are a lame way to teach. All you need to do is explain to them SERIOUSLY why one should wait or at least use protection if you're not going to. Given a 13 year old a baby doll overnight doesn't. do. shit. I've actually decided to do things differently from now on. To take quote from a marriage counselor (who's funny enough to be a comedian): If I ain't got the ring, you ain't gettin' the thing." Haha, I've found that having sex with the men I've been with before a real commitment means I'm probably not going to get the commitment.

And yeah, I moved too much in grade school to really know/remember a sex-ed type program. I'm guessing I didn't, though, because my mom has always been a fan of more rural communities than elsewhere so it's likely that they didn't. :?

I know by the time I was in high school it was the "Abstinence Only" education program. :roll:

I'm totally with the line of thinking to be upfront and honest with kids. I'm already having talks with my 11 year old step daughter about how important it is to think before you do something like that, and that having sex with someone shouldn't happen until you're able to deal with the consequences. I've also told her how much work a baby is, and she's had a little hands on experience with helping babysit other people's babies.

I think the school did a decent job teaching us, and even showed us different methods of using protection. I think that is the way to go. Show them the consequences, but show them IF they decide to do that what there is out there to use. I wish more parents would be willing to take this approach with their kids. I know it's awkward as hell, but I also do think that parents more than ever are relying on the schools to teach them everything. Parents have a huge influence on their kids too!

Broseph:
did I miss something or why is everyone writing so much? :D
-whispers-
Im too lazy to read it right now e.e

Just wanted to pop in and check on everything.
I'm taking my daughter out for a bike ride and then I'm gonna' clean house.
I'll be sure to pop in and say hello/respond to Izumi's post though. ;3 *wants to continue this discussion*

Shadow - We're basically talking about sex ed and that sort of thing. If it's tl;dr, it's okay. xP

*runs off*

Edit: That bike ride was fail if I ever saw it. :P She wouldn't pedal (which she does know how to do), she wouldn't steer and because of this she went off the edge of the road and fell over in some gravel. More like toppled, I think I've had way worse owies just stubbing my toe but then she refused to put her hands on the handlebars at all and just expected me to pull her along. So I decided bike ride was not going to happen.

Izumi - Yeah, I baby sat a lot as a kid and didn't really want to have kids but I also was too afraid to admit that I was having sex because it seemed like the big no-no. Granted, I don't regret any of the decisions I made about my daughter because she's my world but still, like I said to Boo, without the help I get from other people I wouldn't be able to take care of my daughter properly. I'd gladly tell kids that children are rewarding but it's best to wait until you can take care of them yourself.

My school seriously had the abstinence-only programs and that was it. That, and the health teacher we had was such a friggin' prude that he'd rather teach us though movies/documentaries than actually say the word "penis" in front of a classroom of kids. He was young, though, and very much a prude. :roll: He should not have been the health teacher.

And I agree, parents need to take a more upfront approach and even if it makes their child say EEEEWWW and cover their ears they still need to hear it from someone. It's kind of crap to rely on the school system. And I think it's being unrealistic to assume that kids will abstain. Be realistic people, at least prepare them with the tools they need to be prepared to have safe sex!

Broseph:

My friend's baby shower is this Saturday! :D I can't wait go to it! ^_^;

Broseph: Howdy.

I can't really remember the sex talk from my parents or the one in school. I do remember my aunt "talking to me about oral and what some women do and don't do" as if it was her fricking job to. -.- I plan on telling me kids that while I prefer they wait until they are 40 and married, that if they decide to have sex before then, I won't disown them. But I will definitely tell them that make absolutely sure to use protection and that it is a decision they can live with regardless of the outcome. I waited until I was 19 before I did anything and then, it was with the same guy I am with to this day. And seeing as I plan to always be with him, I think I did good.

My mom wasn't much about sex-talk unless she wanted to gross me out about her stories.

Wait until their forty. xDDD That's hilarious.

My aunt once talked about condoms with me but she's too prude for me to ever approach with real questions. >.>;
I mean, we talk now that I am older but I guess she thought I was too young before? Yeah, that makes sense.

I plan on explaining to my daughter my experience with where sex led me and the sort of relationship quality I experienced when I had sex too soon. I also hope she waits until she's forty. Or at least until I'm in the grave. :XD

Broseph: *huggles* In class. Hopefully I'll be on later, but I'll be dealing with satellite internet and it's pouring rain. O_o' I may not have any signal.

Satellite internet sucks. o.o;
Have fun Boo!

Sad thing is, I think the sex talk will be easier for me to have with the boys than the drug talk. As I can't go by my experiences with that, as only drugs I have touched was alcohol and cigarettes and even then, those were rare occasions.

Drugs will be an easy talk for me. :sweat:
My mom gave me a lot of experience of what happens with the heavier drugs.
And of course I experimented. Never with anything heavy, though, I do NOT want to end up like my mom.

Edit: K. I'm going to update the tickets tonight and then make myself scarce for a few days. I'm rather close to just quitting altogether and lately I just want to punch people in the face. :\ I'll pop back on if CP ends up going off but otherwise I'll just stop in to check on shit.

*huggles* Still have internet at the moment. We'll see about it in the morning. ^_^'

For now, goodnight peoples! :drool: :sleep:

Oh hey, I didn't know you had a charity, Estrella. ^^
Thought I'd pop in and say hi

Broseph:
Ahh gaawd school was terrible today D:

Hi Suona: Yes, Strelly's charity is the best!!

*huggles Broseph: *

Broseph:
hello people

Hullo Vegeta! :D

Boo: hello :XD