Hmm that's very true. From my experience on ruffles if you don't have a admin who is organized, nothing get's done.
But in saying that she is pregnant & doing college at the same time. Cut her a bit of slack.

Again, I don't know this about her~
But at the same time, she doesn't listen to suggestions and just says "well, tell us and we'll do it." - yet she sits there and yells at you for trying to help and for giving feedback and isn't open to suggestions.
I'm sorry - but if she can't handle operating a site she shouldn't be doing it and she should have waited until she could.
Again, nothing against her personally, I just simply think things could have been handled a lot better and I'm tired of looking like the bad guy who speaks her mind too much and then gets shit for trying to help with the beta process - it's not worth it.

@ Roachi:

I have added the gold and accepted my part of the trade.

I am doing so so. I am just worried a lot on things right now.

So much in my mind right now.

Originally Posted by Emma Corrin

Again, I don't know this about her~
But at the same time, she doesn't listen to suggestions and just says "well, tell us and we'll do it." - yet she sits there and yells at you for trying to help and for giving feedback and isn't open to suggestions.
I'm sorry - but if she can't handle operating a site she shouldn't be doing it and she should have waited until she could.
Again, nothing against her personally, I just simply think things could have been handled a lot better and I'm tired of looking like the bad guy who speaks her mind too much and then gets shit for trying to help with the beta process - it's not worth it.

Actually, Chi is doing a fine job as an Administrator. She never ingored your feedback, she mentioned that it was off-topic. as an Administrator/Moderator, this is her job. I'm completely unsure of what your grounds is for saying she is unable to fulfill her position, or that she is at all unorganized.

I feel due to your friendship with Hara and your lack of behind-the-scenes knowledge o what actually goes on with the staff at yurrachi, your opinion may hold some bias.

As for Hara, he couldn't handle the stress and left of his own accord, quite rudely I might add.

Nobody thinks you looked like the bad guy in the mentioned situation, merely that the entire conversation had gone off topic. input is always appreciated, it is just more useful when it is organized and in the proper place.

It actually has nothing to do with Pietro, I felt that way even while he was still there, and I told him flat out. So I'm sorry if you think that's the reason I feel this way, because it's not.

And as I stated - it's not the community's job to tell the administration what to create on their site. And I honestly don't see how telling about items being off is off topic for the shop beta - the items are part of the shop - was that not the purpose of the beta? To test everything out and to give feedback and comments and tell of any errors?

And your right, I'm not on the administration. My viewpoint is from what I see. I never once stated that I was stating my views from a behind-the-scenes person. I never once said that I knew what went on between the staff. I simply stated my opinions and my feelings, and I feel that I have a right to do so if asked.

Pietro's leaving is not my concern nor my problem - that is between him and you guys, nothing to do with me and I would like to keep it that way.

As for the input, there is no other place and the conversation started there - therefore I simply stated that there is no place for this and merely asked where to put it. I was never given an answer, only told that if I wanted a feedback forum it would be made for me. That, and the lack of any forums being created at all except for when I asked for them (ex. the roleplay forum), just turns me off to the site because we shouldn't have to mention these things. If the site is designed for such use, then it should be looked at and considered and thought of without being told by it's community members.

It still stands that I feel I was getting talked down to and as if I was completely in the wrong in every way possible after that discussion. Again, nothing against you or her personally.

And furthermore, I do not appreciate you calling me biased about Chi. I can make my own opinions on people and from the discussions I've had with her, there are things that I feel are misguided and wrong and when questioned, I get the butt end of things. And when things are asked to be put up for discussion, it's a flat out "No. I will be watching you to make sure it doesn't happen." That, to me, turns me off completely.

So thanks for joining Menewsha to comment on this in Roachi's exchange. There really was no cause nor reason for this :/
If you had wished to speak to me about this, you could have messaged me personally on Yurrachi instead of bringing this to Menewsha when it honestly had nothing to do with you. I respect that you are sticking up for your fellow administrator, but I don't respect that you joined a site simply to comment on something I said.

There are a lot of contradictions in what you are saying.

You tell me that i should not have posted this in this exchange, however you were the on ewho initally brought the topic of conversation here.

Also, saying it is nothing personal against Chi or I. I probably heard more criticism of Chi in your statements than I heard about Yurrachi as a whole, so it does seem like Chi is your issue.

You also tell me if i had an issue with what you were saying i should message you and not make it so public. You, however, have brought your concerns about Chi and Yurrachi into a public place. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, I'm simply stating that my statements and your statements are of the same nature.

You may not appreciate my interpretation of your statements as biased, but, like you, I can only go with the information that is presented to me. Your change of opinions regarding Yurrachi coincide with Hara's choice to leave us. This means that either your opinion is based upon Hara's leaving, or that your positive opinions about Yurrachi were less than honest, until such time as Hara was no longer a member of our team.

I've said my piece and defended my staff against jugements and accusations I felt were unfair. I agree if anything more is to come from this it should be done in private. I apologize if i have disrupted the flow of this thread, and for any inconvenience i may have caused.

@Saku - Thank you dear <3
Worried about what? You alright?

I do have an issue with how things are done, not with her personally.

And it's not the fact you posted in the exchange, it's the fact that you butted into a conversation was not directed at you or towards you and that you joined a site merely to comment on things I have said that you heard through the grape vine.

I may not like how some things are done and certain things about the site, but that does not mean my wish for Yurrachi to succeed and grow were not true and that things I initially said were not true. I very much did like Yurrachi and was getting back into it, despite the inability to roleplay on that site and despite Pietro not being there. However, today turned me off completely and gave me the decision to quit once my business there was finished.

You can believe it's to do with Pietro and call me a liar all you wish. You can honestly believe what you want - it's not like you believe anything I say anyways and at this point I truly don't care because your opinion of me doesn't phase me.

There is truly no point in continuing this further. I thank you for your wasted time and pointless join to this site if that is all you have joined to do. Good day to you and I hope your site does well.

Roachi, I apologize for the conversation you and I were having turning into this. It was not my intention when I stated my views and opinions. I will refrain from doing so in the future.

Yeah guys, um as much as i love a good argument. Can you please take your conversation elsewhere. Much appreciated :)

Like I stated, that is my final word on the matter. It is a moot point and a ridiculous discussion. I have nothing further to say to neither him nor Chi.

I already apologized for the conversation and I apologized for stating my opinions. It won't be happening again in your thread, don't worry.

Roachi, I will apologize for this.
I feel responsible because I was admin at a point, and invited Emma to the site, then Pirate was a coder, and now that things got ugly, I see Emma on my side, and Pi against me.
So I see that if I never tried something new this never would've happened.

Pietro, I'm not on your side.
I'm not on ANYONE'S side but my own.
Please keep that straight.

I'm ending this conversation now on my part.

@Emma - @@ <33
@Indies - It's alright, i'm not gonna get involved though. As i like all of you, including chi.

Btw what is up with yurrachi anyways? I can't access the board.

Anyway, onto a completely different topic where my opinions do not come into play::
I nearly have 14k, now~
I've been able to sell some things off~

Originally Posted by Roachi

@Saku - Thank you dear <3
Worried about what? You alright?

Just too many things bugging me right now. Like paying bills and Anime Expo. D;

I am just too bleh right now.

-stalks everyone in the thread-
:ninja:

@ Roachi - Yup exacto! I'd rather take care of my own than some 3rd world country. I'm not being heartless I'm being honest. If you talk to any hardworking person from a 1st world country they'd probably say the same - and then if they had extra ontop of that they'd donate over seas. I know plenty of ppl that donate to 1 or 2 Canadian Charities and then sponsor a kid in Brazil or something. Good stuff... just pointless to do it through Menewsha.

I KNOW!! Ahhh I was so upset when I read it listed as a possible project. I was all really you guys haven't even started that, never mind the original MAC hadn't been updated in over a year. But oh wells, as we've been told repeatedly there are things going on all the time on site that we don't know about blah blah that needs time and money blah blah. So I guess we wait eh.

HAHAHAH nuts... whats the roleplaying for, what kind of school are you going too? OI OI OI I took an epic nap literally like an hour after I woke up today haha. Pretty awesome.


@ Nivvy - Straight up you sound a lot nicer saying that than I did. I told them flat out that I hate the idea of donating to a charity through the site and then I encouraged users who liked the idea to donate themselves to get the credit and tax cut. Yup I probably look like the cheapest person there lawl.

Onto random goodness... umm I'm replaying FF9 woooo!

@ Remix

Bahahah - I think it's only because i've had to talk like that all year, in school. So it has flowed over into my net speak too haha. Our tutors don't want us to say exactly what we're thinking, and discuss things in a less harsh way. It sucks, coz i'd rather speak my mind straight up xD! Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks haha. That is so cool you can get a tax cut! Wish we had that in our stupid ass country, where they tax, tax, tax - and look after you if you're rich, and tax you the same as people with less. </3 Lol, excuse the big rant there xD!

So many people seem to be against the cash shop idea, but all for donating to charity. If you wanna keep this website alive, then donating to the charity isn't going to do it. The cash shop would have a better chance. I definitely understand that Gaia's CS is craaaazy. But people are just automatically assuming Mene's would be like Gaia's.

Metaphorically speaking, my thoughts on the cash shop are like this. You want a pen. So you go shopping for one, and there are a million different types of pens you can choose from. So effectively, the same notion exists for a cash shop. There aren't any laws dictating the fact that the cash shop must be precisely like Gaia's.

morning (in my place xD) thread :D

Oh tricky what are you in school for? I don't think I could really work a job where I had to be so diplomatic. Well that's a lie I know I'm good at it, and what not, its just a pain in the ass. I'm a straight up kinda person - cough - which is probably why I have no friends online -sob- jk jk jk. Haha, oh man. I didn't know there were countries that you couldn't get the tax benefit - well aside from maybe a few war torn or 3rd world countries that is, I'm assuming you're in NZ? I dunno :s, maybe look into it and see if its possible. That is if u even want too. Donating to charities is pretty on paper but even if ur donating 20 bucks a month, that's still 240 a year which is still my food bill for a month, or my cell bill for the year etc...

I KNOW! Arg its so dumb. Everyone just kept referencing Gaia, I read through every page before I submitted my wall of text response lol, and it was like seriously no one said it would be gaia it was a cash shop - there are cash shops EVERYWHERE. For every sort of online game, forum etc... No one claims that Maple Story's cash shop is like Gaia's so why would Mene's automatically be the same. Same with neopets - no one even mentioned Neopets and it has one of the largest cash shops out there.

I love the analogy! Its so true. But we will see I hope they axe the charity and start work on the sponsor items. I just want a freakin MAC already. That and maybe a new server or something would be nice, but MAC ftw!


@ Leasfy - Afternoon!!

@Emz - Well that's great, well done :D
@Saku - Yeah i got a heap of stuff bugging me too, i know the feeling lol. <3
@Mixy - Agreed there.

Yeah, sadly though i think a lot of people are just giving up waiting lol.
I know a lot of people who are thinking about migrating to other sites.

Oh it's a customer services roleplay. I'm doing business admin.

Whoa LOL someone is really tired! xd

@Leafsy - Morning hun! Heyy, where are you from if it's morning for you? xD Your not Australian are ya?

@Nivvy - Exactly! I think they should stop worrying about these nancy pancy people who keep thinking that mene is gonna turn into gaia. Cause it's not. I mean they already can see the mistakes gaia made, they'd be stupid to make those mistakes here. I say they bring out the cash shop, coz this site needs something interesting & worthwhile investing in. Cause to be honest, new CIs at the moment aren't worth very much. Hence why i hardly donate. It is an avi site afterall, i mean what is the purpose of this site other then making friends and stuff? Collecting items!!! Durrr!

@ Roachi - Yeah totally, as I'm sure we all realize I lurk the shit outa this site... like that creep you know next door that somehow is always outside when you're going to go suntanning. And as such I saw how Pearl got sooooo much heat from users for just saying honestly (in the MAC thread) that she was considering leaving because we don't have an avatar creator already. Its not as if she was impatient which was a common argument since it hadn't been updated in over a year by that point. And honestly if I hadn't been questing so hard for that PoG and have so many items I'd have quit as well. Its frustrating. All I enjoy doing really is making up avi's chatting to a few ppl, and collecting items. lol.

OOOOOOOOO That sounds really awesome, good luck! Hopefully it goes well :3

Dude I slept so much today its ridiculous but I feel so awake now that I guess I needed it. P.S I love how you ended your comment to Nivvy with "durrr" hahahahahahaha!

roachi: i am ! XD

woah phrodite is nakie ><

Haha changing my avi again >.<

you change it frequently! xD and now it looks like a queen who doesnt realise she is in her period? '3'