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As far as I'm concerned, both fat and skinny are beautiful. Fat women always have the prettier faces while skinny women always have the prettier bodies. Few few women can have both. Most skinny women have faces that are harshly angular, and most of us fat chicks have back rolls. I'd rather have the pretty face myself. I can hide my back rolls. :P

well I'm sure if I were attracted to women I'd find a bigger girl attractive, I don't see why not. I guess people don't admit to it because of sexism on television.

For Example: On Family Guy, it works that Lois is skinny and beautiful and Peter is Overweight... (in fact there are a lot of skinny beautiful wife/fat dumb husband shows...)

...but would it work if it were the opposite. Would it still be funny...

There's something to think about.

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Originally Posted by Adrastia (Post 3951626)

I have large breasts and hips. This has always bothered me. But lately even more so.

I can't fit into alot of the tops i want without it being too tight or my breasts hanging out. ><

It seems that alot of the clothes are made for women who are very thin and have the shape of a 12 year old boy dying of starvation. Even some of the bigger sizes are cut to be tight.

It's like they are saying "You need to starve yourself to be fashionable."
I don't like that message at all. It usually takes me awhile to find anything that fits well. I'm a size 10/11 but because my waist is smaller in size than my hips I have trouble getting things to fit properly.

I'm not plus sized but I understand what you mean because it's not always easy to feel beautiful. I'm not a twig either. But in my experience the problem mostly lies with women's perceptions of themselves based on the media and alot of men don't really care if you aren't rail thin.

Caroline, that's not very nice. In general there's a stigma against being overweight or even a little too voluptuous that no longer exists for people who are very thin. Long ago it was the other way around and being too thin was unnatractive. I don't know what made things change but now there's too much pressure to be the smallest size you can.
have a thyroid disorder and problems with my digestive system. I hardly can eat enough to sustain myself. Yet because my metabolism is slow, even with medication it takes me longer than normal to lose weight. I'm still trying to lose the 20 pounds I still have from before my metabolism crashed. Not everyone who isn't thin has an obsession with food.

I took two semesters of art history. There were alot of artists, like Peter Paul Rubens for example, that painted women to be heavier. Venus at a Mirror shows a larger Venus. Today we'd call this Venus fat right away regardless of the beauty of the painting.

I think we're stuck at a trend where bones are beautiful instead of flesh. And the message attached to it is really unhealthy.

You're kidding me... this thread alone is proof that there is a great prejudice against thin people. Being too thin IS considered unattractive; the difference between being thin and being fat is that if you're fat, people aren't allowed to say anything to you about your weight or eating habits for fear of being labeled an asshole. There are all these words like "voluptuous," "curvy," "plus size," full figured" -- I could go on and on and on -- nice words that make being overweight sound like a positive thing. However, if you are underweight, it's perfectly okay for people to call you names, tease you about your weight, and insinuate that you have a deadly mental disorder.

It's not just plus size people who have trouble finding clothes that fit... I personally believe it would be easier for someone slightly overweight to find their size than someone underweight. Vanity sizing is insane these days. If I didn't buy premium denim I would basically be out of luck in the pants department; I am typically a size 24/00 -- sizes most stores in the mall don't carry.

Woah woah, slow down Caroline. XD

First off, calm the 'fuck' down. Is excessive swearing and aggressive tactics really necessary?

I don't have anything against skinny people in general, please don't misunderstand. I find it unattractive when people are so frail you can see their bones or so fat they're confined to a wheelchair. I find it irritating to say the least that it's only the slender women that appear on tv in a manner considered 'attractive', but I don't 'hate skinny people'. I just hate the lack of variety in the media, the shallow views that only thin women can be appealing.

As for this thread being a self esteem boost.... XD Not really. It's just a post out of curiosity, I'd like to see what people really think rather than what the media seems to think people think. If I were so desperate for a self esteem boost that I'd cry out to the public, I'd visit a anonymous chubby-chaser forum, rather than an avatar site where I'm fairly well known.

As for the clothing sizes, I can agree with that, it's hard for anyone to find clothes these days, especially those who are over or under the 'average weight'. I just finished doing my shopping with a friend of my who's the same age. She's a size 6 in juniors or a size 1 in women's, and it was surprisingly difficult to find clothes for her, as difficult as it was to find clothes for myself in fact. With me it's particularly hard because I have road shoulders, so I'll find jackets that fit around just fine, but I wouldn't be able to move my arms. XD

But anyway, let me know if I missed any points I could discuss here. ^_^

I would so date a guy who was overweight so long as he had hair. I've seen so many fluffy guys without much hair... Not exactly my preference. No offense, but that's my shallow side.
Otherwise, they often have far better personalities than the thin, buff athletic types.
I'd want a teddy bear rather than a guy who is hot and doesn't care about me that way.

I've actually had this conversation with my friends. We decided that there must be a happy medium somewhere. It wouldn't hurt if the media advertised more fit stars or even people of an average body type. I have nothing against overly thin or overweight people. It only becomes a problem to me when the person's health is involved. One my friends has a disorder because of her weight. She's constantly fretting about her stomach, even though she looks fine. I hate to see girls driven to a sickly frame. A friend of mine once said that he danced with a girl who was so small he could almost wrap his hands around her entire waist. He said he felt sorry for her.

I'm a big girl and my husband loves all my curves. Lately, he lost a lot of weight from being sick and then having surgery but before that he had a pretty substantial beer belly. Did that bother me? No, I love with or without his beer belly - I'm just grateful to have him in my life.

I find twigs un attractive, but at the same time I find fat people unattractive. What I like is someone who looks healthy. If you're fat you're not healthy. If you're a twig, you're not healthy. As for what weight is healthy...? That's a very closed minded question, there's a nice big gap of healthy weight and it's all dependent on your height, bone mass, fat index etc.