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/2 y n x 10-19-2008 08:15 PM

I think they should be labeled as sex offenders.

Usually these types of people upgrade, so when they mess with a 17 year old. Soon it'll be a 16 year old. Then a 15 year old. Then a 14 year old. So on and so forth, many of these people don't know their limits and wouldn't it seem kind of awkward to be having a relationship with a teacher just to get good grades? I think so. Especially if my friend was dating a teacher. And most likely parents won't even approve the fact that there 16 year old child is going out with a teacher or anyone way older their child at least. 16 year olds are not qualified as adults, even though they may be able to drive and do all that sorts of stuff... law says you're an adult when you are 18 years old.

So honestly, I think they should be labeled as sex offenders... consensual or not.

Mystic 10-21-2008 01:13 AM

If the student is at legal age then they should legally be able to do what they want. It's not very professional and I get why most work places would not find unacceptable and grounds for being fired. I don't think that they should be labled as a sex offender because it's not a crime if the student is of age. To me, the workplace should be kept professional, especially in schools.

Rhoswin 10-21-2008 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by /2 y n x (Post 4090696)
I think they should be labeled as sex offenders.

Usually these types of people upgrade, so when they mess with a 17 year old. Soon it'll be a 16 year old. Then a 15 year old. Then a 14 year old. So on and so forth, many of these people don't know their limits and wouldn't it seem kind of awkward to be having a relationship with a teacher just to get good grades? I think so. Especially if my friend was dating a teacher. And most likely parents won't even approve the fact that there 16 year old child is going out with a teacher or anyone way older their child at least. 16 year olds are not qualified as adults, even though they may be able to drive and do all that sorts of stuff... law says you're an adult when you are 18 years old.

So honestly, I think they should be labeled as sex offenders... consensual or not.

They're not having sex with anyone under the age of consent, so no, it wouldn't be going down to those younger than 17 or 16, or whatever the age of consent is there.

As for the parents not wanting their child to date a teacher, thats more a family issue, and not a school one.

I really don't think they should be labeled as sex offenders. It can ruin quite a bit for them.

Pkero 10-21-2008 02:55 AM

As long as whoever is sleeping with the teacher doesn't get an 'A' for it, I don't see the harm. xD

Edible Speedo 10-21-2008 03:33 PM

Even with consent, I don't view teacher-student relationships very well because teachers are human and can be subject to unfair grading whether in favor of or against a student. I think the drama of dating a student would just add to that issue, especially if they break up or something.

However, if the student is at the age of consent and they had a consensual relationship with the teacher, as much as I feel that there should be punishment for the teacher, they should not have such a heavy title as "sex offender" in my opinion.

[★] 10-21-2008 06:30 PM

Oh no. Not at all.
That's the most absurd idea that I've ever heard.

A teacher should not be having relationships with their students, ESPECIALLY when they're 16, 17 and 18 and in high school. That's an incredible lapse of judgement to believe that it's alright for teachers and students to have relationships.

Aside from the obvious age gap and unprofessionalism, if the student is honestly doing well, how does that look to other students? "Well, Sarah has A's because she's dating Mr. Such-and-so." Or "Allen didn't turn in his project, but he got an A. Probably because Miss can't-keep-her-legs-closed is dating him."

Perhaps, and just perhaps, I could see this sliding for colleges and universities, but not for high school mishaps.
In my opinion, of a teacher is found having a sexual relationship, consensual or not, with ANYONE in high school, they should be discharged and labeled as sex offenders.

Rhoswin 10-21-2008 07:46 PM

[★]: As far as age gap goes, I see nothing wrong with it. I might not agree with a student who is 16 dating a person who is 40+, but if the student is 18? Dating a teacher that is 20-30? I think of this way- I wouldn't really care if an 18 year old was dating a 25 year old outside of high school, so the age difference doesn't really bother me at all in high school.
I'm not saying this is the reason why I think teacher/student relationships are okay, but I'm saying the age difference does not play a role, in my opinion.

And as for the other students, do they really have to know? It doesn't have to be an out-in-the-open relationship. Especially since it's considered such an unprofessional move.

But I still disagree that they should be labeled as a sex offender. I think that is a lapse in judgment to ruin someone over having consensual sex with a younger person. I'm not saying it's a particularly professional decision, I'm just saying they didn't assault someone, they didn't rape anyone, they're not a predator, and they're not really a threat to anyone.

Artsydaze 10-22-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jali (Post 4043853)
18 and over is all I gotta stay.
Those teachers should stay away from kids when their not even considered legal yet, just wait until their 18!
A good amount of kids are still in school their senior year anyways.

I gotta agree on that one...

marissa12345 10-28-2008 10:23 PM

Wow just wow... its just wrong.

Slytherclaw 10-29-2008 08:55 PM

Honestly, I agree with them. I don't think it should be allowed by the school itself, and I can see a punishment involving a pay dock or firing or something. But no, they're not sex offenders, and they shouldn't be treated as such. If both people are old enough to consent, then it's pretty stupid for the teacher to get in trouble.

Doomfishy 10-29-2008 09:40 PM

I don't know if I agree with most of the comments here. Outside of school you're dealing with a different interpersonal dynamic than within it.

Teachers are in a position of authority, especially when their students are under the age of 18. They're a lot like temporary guardians to their pupils. Kids are expected to respect and obey their teachers, and if a teacher takes advantage of that or acts in spite of it, they should be judged with greater scrutiny than the average Joe.

icandiee 10-30-2008 12:17 AM

But why would they even have the relationship in the first place?
But your rite, they shouldn't be labeled as sex offenders.

Blahrrgh 10-30-2008 12:32 PM

To sum my unnecessary babble up:

No to teachers being labelled sex offenders, unless they actually are, and it was not a consensual relationship with all parties involved over the legal age of consent, and yes to possibly considering it a breach of professional ethics.

If they're over the age of consent, keeping it out of the working environment as much as possible and it isn't interfering with others in the working environment any more than anyone else's relationship would, then fair dos to them in my opinion.

`Sheep 10-30-2008 05:42 PM

18 and over.
18 and over.
18 and over.
It's as simple as that.
Although it's not fair to other students since the teacher would probably favor the other student and give them better grades, the student is legally an adult and can do whatever he/she wants.

Claudia 11-01-2008 12:38 AM

I agree too. Thought it would be better for them to start their relationship after they finish their class.


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