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Majoron 09-23-2009 11:19 PM

I think you answered your own question. Why do they say it? Because you didn't seem happy. You said so itself, you don't look happy when you're in a content phase. But I can see that phrase being a greeting in some cultures.

The Bebe Girl 09-23-2009 11:37 PM

He was just being friendly but i know how you feel, i constantly get that too.

Clyvia 09-24-2009 01:52 AM

If I'm not smiling I just look sad. o____o

Good thing I smile A LOT ^ O^

deweyduquesne 11-08-2009 11:27 AM

yea hun, they're just trying to be friendly. its much better than the alternative i think. but this kinda confuses me. everyone who gets the "cheer up" stuff and things like that understand that when they're not smiling, they look sad. so ppl try and cheer them up. and then they get mad at them for trying to cheer them up. did i miss something? u're giving them the wrong impression, but u're mad at THEM?

Clarise 11-08-2009 03:10 PM

If it's a friend who says something like that, it's understandable because they know you and know what situation you are in. A random person doing it is kind of annoying. They don't know what you normally look like or if you have a really good reason not to smile.

I've been there before. Usually it's my voice, though. I'm very softspoken, and even though I'm okay with projecting when I need to, sometimes I come across as super quiet when I'm with just a few people, and if for some reason I'm not being ultra loud like other people, they wonder if something is wrong. If I'm having a good day it usually brings me down, mostly because they called attention to something I don't like about myself.

Laila Izuka 11-08-2009 05:21 PM

I'm the same way. I hate when people tell me to smile. I'LL SMILE WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT. And usually, I'm in a good mood when it looks like I'm pissed off. It's just the way I am, and what I do.

Cherish 11-08-2009 06:35 PM

I hate that phrase too, especially as it's always a complete stranger who says it to me.

It's such an obnoxious thing to say to someone, it's basically saying "I don't know you, and I know nothing of how you're feeling, but I'm going to assume I do, and demand that you walk around grinning like an idiot."

Infinitys Echo 11-08-2009 09:25 PM

I know I've already made my statement, but I'll make another quick one. It seems people trying to be nice to others annoys the crap out of many of you. It's not obnoxious or assuming, it's not someone trying to get all in your business or demanding you do it. It's just someone trying to be nice to you. Take it for what it's worth and go on about your business. If more people tried to be nice to one another, like those oh so annoying people try to be (according to many of you, that's what they are), this world would be a better place. I think the real problem here is the meanness of those who can't take someone else trying to be nice and their own "not so nice" attitudes. Lighten up! Smile! It really isn't that hard to do. You should try it some time.

Cherish 11-08-2009 09:32 PM

OR... people could mind their own business.

Stallion Duck 11-08-2009 09:37 PM

My mom does that to people all the time.
Even just random clerks at Wal-Mart.
:gonk:

It drives me insane because how does someone else know that you're having a bad day?

Infinitys Echo 11-08-2009 09:39 PM

Lighten up, as I said, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GET IN YOUR BUSINESS! If you're this unfriendly in hereabout a simple, nice statement, then I can only imagine how unfriendly you must be in real life-I mean honestly, if that's how you feel about someone just trying to be nice to you. What's with people today?!

@Duck: They don't know that you're having a bad day. You are projecting yourself as such and they are just trying to be nice.

Cherish 11-08-2009 09:44 PM

Don't be so judgmental, you don't even know me. :talk2hand:

That phrase in particular bugs me, because it's like a veiled insult.
It's not like when a stranger comes up to you and compliments your shoes, they're literally coming up to you and saying "you look bloody miserable."

And no, I don't think that's a very nice or friendly thing to say... nor do I think that the obnoxious way in which you have made snap judgments about my character in real life based upon two forum posts is very nice or friendly, either.
I do hope the irony is not lost on you, from up there on your soapbox.

Infinitys Echo 11-08-2009 09:52 PM

I'll make any judgement I see fit to make-it's my prerogative. I can't believe people would actually argue a point about others saying something that only has good intentions. AGAIN: THEY'RE NOT INSULTING YOU OR ANYTHING ELSE. They are trying to be nice to someone who doesn't appear to be having a good day. Maybe YOU should stop being such an assuming person, which is EXACTLY what you are being and doing. You are taking a nice thing that a stranger tries to do in real life as something evil, and you are taking my defense of them as evil. Now who seems like the more judgmental person here.

I've been wondering during this short thread what the ages are of those who don't like people who try to be nice to them. I'm betting most are young people and teenagers, but I could be wrong. It'd be interesting to know.

Eleadah 11-08-2009 09:55 PM

I don't think people should have to smile all the time. but if they are always non smiley then yeah, it's ok to be conserned. like when i don't smile all day there is usually something bothering me because normally i smile or laugh a few times a day.

Cherish 11-08-2009 10:02 PM

Firstly, get over yourself. You do realise how the way you are behaving starkly contradicts the point you are trying to make, right?

Secondly, I don't think it's "evil" I just think it's rude, and makes for an uncomfortable social situation, when it is someone you don't really know.
You are, of course, entitled to disagree, but you are not entitled to be a snipey about it. And as much as I could fling unsubstantiated judgments and insults right back at you, I won't sink to your level.

Lastly, my age has nothing to do with the fact that I find it awkward and offensive when complete strangers tell me I'm not smiling enough. I don't ask (or, frankly, care) how old you are, because that doesn't validate or invalidate your opinion ...nor make you any more mature, apparently.

p o p p e t ♥ 11-08-2009 11:06 PM

Haha I understand. But I'm sure he was really just trying to make you smile, maybe flirting a little bit or something you know. Don't take it too personally I doubt he was trying to attack you or anything. Just trying to help brighten what he thought was a dull day for you. Like I said, he probably thought he was doing something nice, so don't be so harsh on the guy. I've had people tell me that a few times and none of them were trying to be sarcastic or a jerk :]

Infinitys Echo 11-09-2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherish (Post 1765579000)
Firstly, get over yourself. You do realise how the way you are behaving starkly contradicts the point you are trying to make, right?

Secondly, I don't think it's "evil" I just think it's rude, and makes for an uncomfortable social situation, when it is someone you don't really know.
You are, of course, entitled to disagree, but you are not entitled to be a snipey about it. And as much as I could fling unsubstantiated judgments and insults right back at you, I won't sink to your level.

Lastly, my age has nothing to do with the fact that I find it awkward and offensive when complete strangers tell me I'm not smiling enough. I don't ask (or, frankly, care) how old you are, because that doesn't validate or invalidate your opinion ...nor make you any more mature, apparently.

Oh, yes, I definitely know how it contradicts what I'm saying. But then, I try to be nice to people, both online and more so in real life. However, when someone acts like an ass in either of those worlds, I'll give it right back to them if I'm unable to bite my tongue. Often times people mistake niceness as weakness, which I am not. Therefore, when I offer niceness and someone takes advantage of it in the manner of being "mean" to me, I'll give it right back.

It's not rude, though, that's just your assumption, probably because you find it easier to see the bad than the good. I find it hard to believe that such a a simple comment that has been made to so many people for so many years could all of a sudden be thought of as rude. THAT'S why the age comes into play. It does seem that the younger generation is much more full of attitude at the simplest of things. Plus, if you weren't having such a bad day when they say it to you, then why would you automatically assume the worst of someone. Think about it. Good day=good attitude=good response to others. Bad day=bad attitude=bad response or assumption of others. It kind of DOES make sense.

And I can be as snipey as I want to be, just like all of the snipey people who think someone trying to be nice to them actually have bad intentions. It's not those people, it is the people who cannot take a simple, kind word in the manner in which it was intended who have a problem. And by the way, you have already "sunk to my level" with your "veiled" comments. Don't even try and act like you haven't. I fully admit what I'm acting like. Stop trying to act like you're not trying to give me shit right back, because you are. I'm a big girl-I can take it.

Again, it's very rare that someone would say something like that and have any bad intention with it. Don't look for evil in the world-it surrounds us daily. Take a simple statement for what it's worth and be glad that there are still some nice people out there. We should all try to be a little nicer to others-what could it possibly hurt? I fully believe in minding my own business, and mostly do so, but sometimes I see someone and just feel that maybe a kind word would be helpful. Thankfully, I live in an area where we still nod and say hello to complete strangers (GASP!). I wonder if you think that's rude as well.

Oh, and maybe we both need to step back and think about one thing here. Tone is not easily conveyed online. I'm often times misunderstood online as my tone doesn't translate worth squat, and sarcasm and dark humor translate, in my opinion, worse than anything else. I fully admit I'm giving out plenty of shit here, but I've said quite a bit with no ill intent as well, which I'm sure has been mistaken.

Usuri 11-09-2009 12:52 AM

I hate when people say things like that to me

I hate watching movies with this one friend I have because randomly during the movie, she'll turn to me and ask me what's wrong because I'm not smiling. It's ridiculous because when she asks me that, it's never a happy part of a movie. It drives me crazy.

I understand how people think that it's friendly to say things like that but I really think that if a person wants to say that they should at least understand the situation first. What if your mom just died and someone said that to you. Wouldn't you feel bad and if you told them after they said it , it would be awkward. I think people shouldn't just assume things like "thing aren't that bad."

ElysiumFate 11-09-2009 03:23 AM

Ah, I'm in the same boat. If I'm not smiling every freakin' second of my life someone is telling me to. I swear. I take a second to breath and: "you should smile more." Wait? WHAT?!!! I just breathed. Yeesh.

I'm a very pensive person so I like to think about things and I don't find a lot of stuff funny, but I do my fair share of smiling.

On another note: people also always tell me this on my best days. It just brings me down. You're not alone there.

Murasaki Fujiwara 11-09-2009 05:00 AM

God, that phrase pisses me off so much!
I don't smile much, frankly, it hurts for me to smile (I was in a train accident at 16 and my muscles are still recovering), and it pisses me off when people say that!

If I don't want to smile, I shouldn't have to freaking smile!

Cherish 11-09-2009 08:14 AM

Infinitys Echo: Well, you have certainly failed to change anyone's mind about the subject of this thread. This is mostly because you are behaving in such a juvenile, vile manner, which has made all of your opinions completely null and void.

You have randomly made entirely unprovoked accusations about the personality and character of myself and other people who think the same thing, and there's no need for it.
I just don't respect the opinions of people like you. Sorry.

So no, I'm still not going to sink to your level. I am not going to let you turn such a simple discussion thread into a bitch-fest. I'm better than that.

I still think it's awkward and rude when people use that phrase. So do most of the people in this thread.
You can stand on your soapbox and preach some more about how that makes us terrible people if you like, just be aware that nobody is taking any notice of your opinion, because you don't know how to behave with civility.

This is the last reply I will make to you on this subject, because I don't want to let you ruin the thread.
Feel free to sling a few more insults at me if you like, but just be aware, you'll be talking to yourself.

Remrems 11-09-2009 03:58 PM

Happens to me LOADS! ughh.
Who walks around with a smile plastered on their face constantly anyway?
You'd look like a complete twat. -_-

LustyScoundrel 11-09-2009 05:57 PM

My teacher tells this to me often. It annoys me. -.-

twilightduck12 11-10-2009 02:33 AM

That is annoying, but I think he was trying to be nice. But like when I had to switch schools that happpened, and i got pissed.

whitebeast 11-11-2009 02:19 AM

...First off, that's a little rude since you don't know each other then he randomly insinuates you're not having a good day.

Second, if I were in your place, I would feel very creeped out because a random stranger is giving me advice. Strangers talking to me still give me an odd feeling in my tummy even at this day and age, especially at this day and age. D:

Though if you're a true empathic person, you can tell if a person is having a good or bad day not just by the appearance of otherwise of a smile on their face but through other non verbal gestures like the lift of their chin and the glint in their eyes. : /


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