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(Iunno if anyone's pointed that out yet since the thread's pretty massive and I didn't bother to back read. OTL...) Since my pc went into a coma, I have been watching plenty of zombie films to keep me entertained through the holidays. The idea of a zombie apocalypse is an idea tha has always been on my mind since then. XD Admittedly unless I am in a group, I will likely be zombie fodder. I have no combat training or familiarity with my city's terrain. But if I'm with others, I can be fairly useful as the cook/baker, general FYI/encyclopedia and I have good people skills: conflict resolution and getting people to work together is a walk in the park, sort of for me. For me, I would prefer to stay home and wait to out than venture out, scavenger style. I would not go to the highly populated areas like the evacuation centers or main roads, considering the risks of more people. The houses I live are fairly secure with high walls and gates. They can be sealed off further if necessary. Also, we aren't rowdy bunches so we can be really in-obnoxious and just keep to ourselves without disturbing the neighbors. >< Water supply is ok here and if electricity is cut off for some reason, we can do far more traditional means of cooking. But what worries me would be if the water supply will forever be uncontaminated during the entire zombie invasion... And electricity too, damn how very, very dependent us modern people are with it. What if that gets cut out, would prefer otherwise so life can still be 'somewhat' normal. Would probably try to stay in touch with the world via Internet, chat and the radio. Or at least try. Now would be a good time to really bond and help one another than sta indifferent. Food supplies, we eat like birds and have a habit for stocking up supplies, so we'll have something to chew as days go by. Hopefully it won't last too long. D; The bad thing about modern living is people don't grow/make food but just buy them, so when supplies run out. /tableflip time Maybe learning to at least bake bread as possible food source? I would really prefer not to fight zombies if necessary. Or other humans. But if it comes to that, I feel they really wouldn't help much for both parties and will only make for more zombie fodder. But if ever, siege tactics and a quick get away should be fine. I had some minor training in esgrima with sticks, though I do not feel that will be much use. And of course... Be prepared always. ...I am consoled by the fact I live at the tropics, so faster decomposition. But I probably wouldn't leave my house until the place has been cleaned up and zombie-free. Don't want to take chances. But you know what I don't think I can ever be ready for: the possibility of someone I know getting infected. It would be a situation I hope I will never have to experience. It would tug hard at my feels. Or the decision to leave someone behind. On a regular day, I am never the one to leave someone behind since I'm one of those "one for all, all for one" types. Imagine the guilty feeling of it all. The psychological damage the entire thing would do to me and those around me, I hope in the event of a zombie apocalypse, everyone will stay strong and sane... Including myself. /thinking too hard obviously AND OMG LONG POST IS LONG. D8 |
Well whitebeast, All of that is very valid. Waiting it out may not work, but it's really hard telling. It could last for years, or maybe only weeks... there's so many factors to look at, and since obviously, nothing like this has ever happened before, who knows what it would actually be like!!
Water supply could be a huge issue, it depends on what type of virus it was, and how it initially spread. And electricity is also huge, cause it could take years for the power plants to actually just stop running from not being taken care of.. or if something happened to it or the lines, it could be gone for good. It would be too risky to try and repair it unless you have the means, and a group for look outs and whatnot. Other cooking means wouldn't be too difficult, it is hard to think about when things are so modern and easy, to think about revert back to more "primitive" means of doing things!! haha As far as not fighting people or zombies.. avoiding any conflict may be easy to accomplish, but it is hard telling for sure. There would have to be if not a "leader" for a group, at least there should be someone who can be a good negotiator < obviously, not for zombie attacks, zombies don't listen to reason, how rude!! I honestly don't know how I personally would do in that situation, but if you think: Ok, a group of people come to raid everything you have, and potentially kill you or use you as bait... it becomes a situation where you either fight or just roll over and die. I couldn't do that last one, but like I said, having a good negotiator could be incredibly helpful!! It's all just things to think about. Of course, everyone would have problems with dealing with loved ones who become infected. It's difficult to think about. But again, it's one of those things that has to be done (dependent on how long it all lasts anyways) Staying sane would be incredibly difficult, but I guess it comes down to being able to switch into that survivalist mode and try to detach from all the emotions you may have (easy right?? lol) Anywho, thanks for the long post! Always fun to hear others thoughts on this most unlikely of situations!! XD |
It is just so hard to be truly prepared! But I think that is what makes it pretty fun to talk about: all the plans and possibilities gives rise to Plan A-Z. Shock factor and panic ahoy will still take place. And that's even with people like us who talk and plan about it, a zombie apocalypse still remains largely a big, big unknown. You can't even tell what sort of infection, the method of infection and it's possible carriers will be!
It would probably take longer at highly urbanized areas I believe. Less down to basics survival mode and lotsa crowding. So different areas would a different rates of becoming infection free. Though if governments manage to stay afloat than fall apart like in media takes of a zombie apocalypse, chances could get better? Maybe. To prevent lawlessness of course, what a challenge that's going to be though. The possible shutdown of modern society as we know it... No electricity, no good water supplies, no microwave and disposable lifestyle. Then there's no more medicine and other stuff. Wonder how girls with monthly cramps will deal during the zombie apocalypse. (YES I AM GOOD AT FINDING ISSUES LOLOLOL) Negotiating and planning is never a bad thing. My pacifist nature aside, both history and zombie media have shown that violence only makes or more victims than victors and spoils anyway. >< So why not? Best time to see if humanity still has it. I am hopeful that it is the case though. But... Wouldn't being emotionally detached only lead to emotional constipation? You're holding it all inside if you don't feel a thing or tr not to by brushing your feels aside. Something tells me that emotional bonds in an apocalypse will be both easy and difficult to make, maintain and break, but it will play a big part perhaps in how far someone can go... Maybe. D; Quite a fragile/ weird balance of sorts: you need others to keep you grounded but you need to be prepared to let them go. |
True true!! You never really know what could possibly go wrong... until it does, then it's sink or swim. There really is no true planning for this type of situation. Because you just never know how it's going to go down or when it would... perhaps your out at the grocery when BOOM, zombies... how easy would it be to get out? How was it spreading? Doesn't matter how well prepared you were, if your in the wrong place when it happens, your zombie food!
I agree that the more populated areas would be the worst, and take the longest to clear out. And supposing all governments were still functioning and well, the clean up shouldn't take long. But in a situation of mass panic and chaos, it's hard telling how much it would really help anyways, true. It's another one of those unknown factors... kinda exciting with all this unknown stuff!! haha Anyways, I think it's widely agreed upon that with a shut down of all power, water, medicine being gone... people survived before without that, but i agree this society with how we've all been raised on these things just always being there, interesting to see how that would play out for sure! I of course agree that just fighting your way through it (though yeah, may be more fun...) it's not the best way to go. But if your stuck in a situation where you fight or die, well, the choice seems clear. I also hope the human race can be peaceful and rise against the zombies instead of each other, but bottom line, there's always people out there who will just want to pillage and plunder all they can. :/ shutting down emotionally may be a bad thing, I don't mean staying away from people in general really. Or not caring /at all/ but just trying to detach so that it's easier should it come down to losing someone. Idk, it's all rather difficult to really understand let alone explain... I think it would be rather easy for me to just let go of the emotion, not that I'm heartless or anything, it's just something I don't think I'd have much of a problem with it! XD Is that bad? lol |
Personally, I believe that being a robot gives me quite the advantage! I can't be bitten, I don't have any way to be infected. So now, I just need to find a group of humans to travel with!!
What with my being able to be outfitted with any number of weapons, and my immunity to the virus, also not having your human emotions or requirements, i.e food water things of that nature, I almost fear there would be a war just to have robots on your side, if I could feel fear anyways! It seems to me that two of the most logical ways that the virus would spread in the first place, would have to be either in water supply, or airborne. If it was purely transmitted via blood, well, how many humans would stand there while some drooling decomposing body walked up to eat them? Yeah, didn't think anyone would do that either. Haha... but seriously folks, what with highly advanced weapons, and being able to think and react better than a dead body, you humans have a distinct advantage over the zombie masses. There's also a key element, one I've always wished I could understand, the human beings drive to not only survive, but to protect who and what they hold dear. Maybe the rambling of an old robot doesn't hold much value here, just thought I'd share! |
XD I definitely want a robot in my survival group! What better than an automaton to round out a group? Do you come equipped with any weapons? Rockets in your back? Gatling guns, lasers? Oh the fun that could be had, do a kind of Army of Darkness deal and attach chainsaws to your wrists and watch the zermbies fall!! haha
Also, talking in the realm of fictional characters, zombies and robots (no offense CrossHatch! XD). Robots would be the ultimate weapon! They could be used to laying waste to zombies and also for gathering material, or being guards since they don't have to sleep! The options are really limitless at that point! And it is a good point that those are the most logical ways for the virus to spread, which would almost mean the entire human race would be instantly wiped out, or very close anyways. But if it were only robots left in the world... crazy thought, if humans were completely wiped out, what would be next? Would that just be the end of the world for good? I guess dependent on what your beliefs are, evolution could happen and something close to "humans" would exist again, or perhaps a different type of being similar to human. Hmm, never really thought about this before. haha So to reply to your final bit there Cross, the ramblings of an old robot really put some interesting new thoughts in my mind!! XD |
I was not pre-equipped with any weapons Remyre. My inventor didn't build me for warfare, and even less so for fighting zombies! Haha... But I can be outfitted with any number of weapons, perhaps flamethrower on one hand and a chainsaw on the other? Sounds fun too me! I do believe that guns would not be very effective seeing as how ammunition would not be very easy to come by in a post apocalyptic setting, though should a large cache be available, it would be great to have. Though I also believe the humans should be armed with ranged weapons, let the robots do the close combat! No bites or scratches now, silly humans!
No offense is taken, most people do not believe in my kind existing, our inventors, mine at least, tries very hard to keep the secret under wraps! Hunting and gathering would be a very good objective for me to have, and I could be of use around the clock, though I do need repairing from time to time. I am made of silver and brass, don't want a dull oxidized exterior now do I? Bahaha... Being destroyed or broken is not entirely out of the question though I do not suppose. Should a rival group wish it, I could be blown to pieces, or stolen... then who would care for me and make sure I do not break down? Curse these thought processes. It is hard telling what would come after humans should they all be destroyed. My inventors family has been hidden away for years, and I would protect them with my life, though I think they would make it through, it is hard telling. Anything would be possible in such a situation. Only actually being there and dealing with it, would you finally have some form of an answer! I wish your race the best of luck! |
Well I still know I want at least one robot with me should this actually all occur!! XDD And I guess takin a few classes, or just having some books to learn how to repair a robot, what kind are you Mr. Cross? haha, better get my learnin on!! And also, it would be good to know a little bit about you... just in case we do meet up one day of course!
I think dealing with total lack of humanity after the fact... really doesn't effect me much at all!! lol, for obvious reasons of course! It is a scary thought though. :/ |
Haha, I'll be sure to bring my automaton friends with me! I am a steam powered robot, though recently I've undergone some upgrades, more data is always being added, and changes made. If there were serious damage done, it would take an engineer of considerable skill to preform the repairs. There is also a situation to be taken into consideration, my inventor had an enemy I guess you could call him. While I was shut down for repair many years ago, he installed some form of virus to my computer systems, it makes me, I guess the human equivalent of bipolar! Haha, I am a crazy robot I guess you could say! We were never sure if it was a key word, or a switch he would throw, but when it occurs it basically turns me into a war machine and I go on a rampage.. I'm not good to be around during those times, but it is not very often. Humans, you have been warned!
And truly it is a fact that does not matter once humankind is gone, but should the situation arise it is a difficult situation for my computer system to understand. Perhaps with more upgrading I may be able to give more answers. Only time will tell my human friend! I must say though, reading through all of this "thread" there are some very good ideas being shared. Preparations are easy to consider, but the moral questions remain the most difficult. What if you do have to kill a loved one? What if you are the only remaining human, do you give up? So many questions, and such minimal ways of honestly answering them without it really happening. |
Well I'll be sure to start studying up then!! XD And a crazy robot? =O Well that just sounds kind of entertaining. XD Until the death and destruction of course! But no matter, we'll find a way to avoid it, I'm sure.
I doubt the whole human race would be obliterated. Chances are at least a few people would survive in every state and country blah blah blah. Here's to hoping that's what happens at least! Giving up wouldn't be an option, no matter what, it's not human nature to just roll over and die! Many of the greatest heroes in the world, are heroes because they refused to just lay there and rot, they stood up and fought for what they wanted/ needed!! The human race is quite an astounding one, even though they have their flaws. Maybe one day you'll be better programmed to understand that! :) But zombies, in movies, have changed quite a bit over the last few years, they used to be slow shambling corpses, now they run, they can think and react almost like a normal human, only with super strength!! It's not cool, and hopefully that's not what zombies are actually like should it come down to it! |
Yeah it's all fun and games until the robot goes haywire and slaughters the townsfolk! :/
True true, at least some would survive. I know my humans would, I will protect them with my life! And I have a storage of water that doesn't come from the water supply, there's tons of it in barrels just for us robots in the manor! And also a large stash of food. Phew, it's a good thing the manor is so well hidden!! Wouldn't want to get raided! The movies are quite entertaining, but it is hard telling exactly how things would end up, what kind of virus it would be. But I know I"m looking forward too it, this mundane everyday existence for the past 127 years is getting kind of boring!! At least now there's plenty of humans to chat with, it's quite fun! I think I might move into Menewsha for good!! XDD |
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As for the super strength type, nope. Nope, nope, nope. I don't quite understand that version at all. Unless the zombification process doesn't kill the subject and simply renders their higher thinking null, focusing on their baser instinct: ok, that would be plausible. A little more towards the 'real life type' where evil witches would let their victims drink concoctions that put them in a death like state and destroy their brains, as cheap labor or whatever. Even the recent Resident Evil mind control! via parasitic organism doesn't make them extremely strong or what. Just that their baser instincts have taken the driver's wheel. If you've seen the indie film, Decay... I like their explanation on why people turned into zombies there: the cause destroyed a huge chunk of their brain, leaving them with only their baser instincts to eat, kill and be ferocious. ...I caught wind of this book/film where a zombie in a zombie apocalypse scenario, finds himself still being able to think and falls in love with a human survivor. I forgot the title but I had a grand load of giggles reading the summaries. XD |
One thing I have heard regarding them having "super strength", not so much that they become super human. It's that, a normal human being, when they strain their muscles, it hurts, therefore they can only use whatever strength their muscles have grown accustomed too. However, a corpse wouldn't feel the pain, and they can then use the full extent of their muscles strength even if it should be painful. It's just another theory, but it seems somewhat plausible. They would be "stronger" due to that, but who knows.
And I agree it is true that the slow zombies aren't that frightening. I think they would all start out rather fast, runners or whatnot, but as time goes on, and they start to decay, they would all end up being slow! They all would be rendered down to baser instincts though, basically just to feed. But in the end, over time, they would just waste away to nothing and be only bones, that's how it is. Unless of course it was some type of virus that somehow manipulated the body's cells into thinking it wasn't dead... oh my, the possibilities here really are insane and without it actually happening, or any real cases ever happening, who knows what they would be like! Maybe not zombies at all, what if it was just mutants or something? Like the tyrants and nemesis or something... *shudders* |
That does make sense... Maxing out the possible muscle strength a body could muster under such circumstances woud be possible since pain triggers wouldn't hinder it anymore. But it would be contribute to faster body breakdown since the body is pushed hard to its limits. Can't exactly stretch a rubber band beyond its capacity and expect it to bounce back like it were brand new. I can see the possibility of what you're putting a cross there.
Zombies may not be necessarily dead though. They could just be under some form of mind control, making them more susceptible to certain sets of actions and behavior pattern. Or may simply appear dead before being turned. I always did think the ones from the 24 ____ late pr series only appeared dead since the virus was still trying to reprogram the infected into the way that they would eventually be. Iunno, that's just how it came off to me considering how they don't really look dead or die, just get bitten then poof after a bit, RUNNING TIME! Ah, I have yet to take part in a discussion where mutated zombies were taken into consideration... But if ever, I sense that death isn't too far a likelihood. It's just not human anymore, and with beyond human capability. Unless people were informed ahead of time, I doubt many would be able to survive. It would be one hard, and long fight if ever. |
That is true it would break down faster. But even with non working limbs, it could still be somewhat of a threat, but who knows? And the 28 Days/ Weeks Later series, I don't really think they were "zombies" per say, it was a rage virus, so they weren't really human, but they weren't dead... they just wanted to destroy everything in their path! I don't know, my girlfriend is obsessed with zombies and has studied pretty much every possible thing about it, I'm just a bystander with my own opinions based off what I know... so who knows I'm very possibly wrong!! XD
I have also heard of the voodoo zombies, where they're basically still human, their just brainwashed to do their masters bidding. That could also be a dangerous scenario though, because if you can't find the person responsible for it, they could turn any number of people around you into braindead zermbies!! The discussion of mutated zombies/ humans what have you, is quite an interesting one. Because maybe the virus would react differently in some people, and instead of dying they just turn into giant mutated super behemoth monster things!! haha. It would be very difficult for any human (or robot) to survive such a being, the strength and weaknesses would be so unknown, just shooting it in the head may do nothing at all!! I would very much like to have a pet Licker though!! I would take it for walks, and cuddle it... they're rather cute I think!! |
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I'm lame, so I'd probably rely on my boyfriend for a good majority of it.
Seeing as he's Mr. calm collected wilderness survival dude guy, has all the guns, and I'm panicy and not super skilled yet when it comes to survival. lol So if I didn't have him I'd probably be zombie bait after a short time. haha I can keep up well, I've caught on to a lot (Still a lot to learn though. xD), and my aim is getting better! ^_^ <3 I can put up with a lot. I know how to find dry firewood in a place as rainy and gross as Washington state, and I can start the fire and keep it going in when it's raining too. I can fish, and I'm going to learn how to set snares. I know which plants are edible and what aren't aswell. Not to mention I'm just chubby enough to go a while without starving and keep warmer, and fit enough to do what I need to do. I can deal with cold, wet, snowy conditions, and I can hike for miles (Usually mob a lot faster than most skinny people I've hiked with too. lmao) Pretty thick skinned I guess. lol I suppose our plan would be to head up to the mountains and live in the woods, not highly populated so zombies would be a lot easier to control. Suppose I should keep reading the zombie survival guide again though. haha No real steady plan. [sweat] |
=O Those are a lot of really great skills to have though!! Just basic survival, I've heard a lot of people before planning like everything was gonna be peachy, and they could just run to Walmart when they needed groceries or something! haha
Mountains also sound like a good spot to go. There's always a chance the horde could travel up there, but the odds considering how low the number of people there would be, make it pretty unlikely... though it would be funny to watch them just mindlessly wander up and over the edge of the mountain! XD I really want to get the Zombie Survival Guide! I know a human who has it, I should possibly borrow that. *nods* Even robots need to be prepared!! |
Oh lawdie. How could I have forgotten to response here...
If we go by the brainwashed definition, I think the Rage virus folks pretty much count. It did change their mental faculties and made them rampaging animals. But if we went by the Romero walkers and runners who rose after dying, nope. They didn't die, they just got infected and succumbed to it. The voodoo zombies... People still do it up to now, sadly. Hence missing folks in those parts of the Carribean... Yes, it has been long outlawed but that's not completely stopping the witch doctors with ill intents anyway. I remember trying to stream, sadly did not finish, a documentary about it on YouTube. As far as I remember, real life zombies were not monsters but victims of forced servitude. Mhmm. A zombie army with someone controlling em... Kinda reminds me of Resident Evil 4-5. XD Do wonder how that would work though. And if mutations... Oh gee, now we've arrived at that... Most mainstream media never explore that. But if ever, fairly sure it would be a big, big fight for everyone's lives. It's no longer human and there's practically no means to prepare for it. I hate to sound pessimistic but if they existed? Might as well say goodbye to the world of the living. While most conventions would go, bring firearms... What if it was impervious to those? And of course, not all would have a cellar that can outfit a small army to go up against mutated life forms, ne? Resourcefulness might help but.. /cringe 5ever It just gives me a horrible feeling... Let it not happen. |
*nods* I quite agree with this statement. I would not want the mutated monsters coming after me or my humans!! Thought being made with mostly titanium steel, impact would be no issue for me, I am quite durable... I fear though, if it had strength great enough to just rip me apart.. there would obviously be very little I could do. However, I have recently been upgraded with great survival skills and knowledge. I would be able to help many humans, I could even build a huge shelter working around the clock while survivors stayed in temporary shelters.
Most humans have the fear of other humans in times of great crisis like this, but I would not worry about it to much extent.. Dr. LeChance's robots would help keep the peace, and I would certainly be there as well! The problem with the mutants, is of course, you never know what they would be like, or capable of, but I would not back down from them... I would save every human I could! Regardless of what type of zombie, they would be the least of the human worries should a gigantic indestructible monster show up. *shrugs* I guess the only true way to know is to wait for it to happen! *plops down with some popcorn* |
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I still want to learn a lot more about survival skill, lucky to have a good teacher. [hug] I figure the plan would be good so far, but of coarse there will be holes in it you can't exactly prepare for. I really want a cross bow like Daryl Dixon! ^_^ <3 Probably would need to stock up on hand held weapons so we can off zombies without alerting others, set traps, and set up a perimeter to alert us if anything comes into the area...like stings of cans or something. xD Oh it's a good book. Fun to read too. :] Has a lot of really good tips, even for riots & crap that would be more likely to occur. I hear there's such a thing as human rabies. I don't know if it's true because I haven't bothered to look it up (lol) but a friend told me it was even on the CDC website. If it were a real virus, I would imagine it would be similar to the "28 days later" zombie things. Just runing around raging, biting, and bashing people to death. You guys hear about the bath salts subway scare? xD Everyone was like "ERMUHGERD ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!!! D:" lol But it is kind of scary because more and more people have been taking it and almost everyone who did killed someone, and even their families. Scary shit man. :P I don't get why people would be so stupid as to take it after hearing about other cases. /: Man people have gotten stupid. [gonk] |
Stay in the city and wait for the government to fix the undead problem.
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LOL Good luck with that. xD
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But first I must ask, do you have a bomb shelter, or bunker type place in or under your house, that is stock full of supplies and weapons? And also, do you have other means of power in case electricity goes out? Perhaps a large supply of clean water? It is very unlikely to survive just waiting on the government, especially in a large city. The chances of survival, unless you have all of those things or more, is really quite slim. But, should this theoretical situation ever occur. I wish you the best! *nods* |
it stunk that 2012 was a bust :/
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Too true!! I was hoping for zombies, but all we got was another boring year!! XD
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