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But thats just what I kind of secretly believe, when things get fuzzy around the edges. Not any sort of theological revelation. And yes, I do believe that if someone killed off hundreds of people, they would still be eligible for forgiveness and redemption AS LONG AS THEY BELIEVED. Usually those impulses are physiological or psychological, and after treatment, a lot of killers can reflect on what it was they did wrong. So, yes, I do stand by what I said. :) |
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warning, the following consists of mostly my personal opinion.
yep, your a christian! well ,mostly. christians are the people who force everyone to go to their church, and tell them they have to belive a certain way and do certain things. and then most of the people dont even do them. this one pastor guy at the one church i went to vacation bible school at a few times was a pedophile with a foot fetish. :D he put us all in a dark room, told us to shut up and look forward, and then washed our feet. XD he found some way to relate it to jesus or something. oh well. free foot wash. -shrug- |
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I used to believe that just believing in God guaranteed you were a Christian and therefore, guaranteed your entrance into Heaven.
WRONG. I was blinded back then, and I had the scales peeled off of my eyes to finally see what being a true Christian is. Please don't take offense, but from the things you've listed, I don't think you are a true Christian. Here's why: The Bible says in Matthew 7:15-19, "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." In other words, what you say you've been doing -- cursing, fighting, etc., are examples of bad fruit. A good tree (a Christian) cannot bear bad fruit. Also, you will know a person is a Christian from their works. Works don't MAKE a Christian though. There has to be a sincere love for God in your heart. Believing there is a God and knowing him and accepting him into your heart are two different things. Now, I understand that there are some things that you can't help. Sin happens because we're only human, and we've fallen prone to it because it's our nature. No one except God is perfect. We can't be like him, but we should strive towards it. Meaning, if need be, quit doing some of the things you're doing. It pleases God, and shows you want to be like He is. I'll say this -- I don't like my church either just because of the way things are done and how the customs are within the specific denomination. I don't really go to church. However, I feel you should have a passion for wanting to learn the word of God. It sounds hypocritical, coming from me, since I don't like the way my church is run, but I don't think being in a church guarantees whether you're a Christian or not. Honestly, there are millions of people who go to church thinking that's the only ticket for them to get into Heaven. Go to church, and I'm a Christian. Again, they're wrong. They say one thing, and then do the other, then venture off to church and ask for forgiveness. It's not how it works, and you're basically exploiting God that way when you do things like that. Well, hope I made my points CLEARLY. I'm always up to talk about this stuff, so I'll keep an eye on the thread. You can PM me, as well, if you'd like. ^^ |
I think you are not considered christin, because you are kinda physco. Phyisicly, emotionly and just plainly Physco! No offence you asked my opion. :lol:
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If you're really a Christian, you would have no desire (or at least try to avoid) doing those things. To be a good Christian is to honor Christ with your life and follow his ways, and... well, from what you've stated in the first post, it seems like you aren't. ^^; Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, cursing when you hit your finger is not going to send you to hell, for example. But deliberatey doing these things with complete disregard to the Bible... well, that's not good.
Oh, and one more thing: if you hate your church, I suggest trying to find a new one. Church should be an importan part of a Christian's life, and you should try to surround yourself with good influences and people you care about and respect. That's just my two cents. :3 |
You know I don't really know.
I lie too. I curse sometimes when I'm furious. I fight...(Like a little fist fight) And I'm Roman Catholic. I don't like church much. We're pretty much the same but we're still Christian no matter what. If you don't believe in God, then you're not Christian. If you do believe in God, then you are no matter what. -shrugs- You know as a kid, you really come to despise BORING stuff all the time. But as you grow older, you finally realize that you're there for a purpose. Well...At least I think so. -__-"" If you think God is real, then you are Christian. ~Twizzlerz`*♥ |
I'm a saved Christian but I do find myself doing some of the things you've listed...
I guess people are what they are. Even though I'm Christian I can't help it when I cuss. Sometimes I ask for forgiveness, sometimes I don't... Then again I know of other Christians who cuss and get into fights. I guess that as long as you have your faith and trust in the Lord then its alright, but I can't help but feel guilty sometimes. I've found a new church to go to that I like a whole lot. Its pretty relaxed and the pastor could almost pass for a comedian. He still manages to preach a good sermon and get the point across though. (Also it used to be a movie theater, and we get to sit in the cool seats and not the hard pews. We can also bring drinks in there too!) Thats a big plus. |
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As long as you are a good person and follow the Golden Rule, I'll see you as a fellow Christian.
I curse a lot As long as it's not every other word comming out of you mouth, I don't see a point of making a big deal over it. I get into (physical contact) fights It really depends on why you get into fights. Try to talk it out before throwing punches. I love metal music Why should choice in music matter? I hate my church with a burning passion Why do you hate your church? You can try swiching and see if it's better for you. I lie more than you could ever imagine Just remember that lies tend to take a snowball effect. Try not to lie. I commit two of the seven deadly sins I think everyone does some of them at some point of their lives. Try to see what you do wrong and try to not do it anymore. I make fun of people Remember the Golden Rule on this one! I tend to mock people too sometimes. |
If you believe in the Christian god and their beliefs, you are a Christian.
Maybe one who won't get into heaven. But a Christian nonetheless. : ) Or, that's according to my definition. By what you said, I think that most Christian people would say you aren't going to heaven, which sounds more like what you mean. |
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You may believe in some of what Christians do.
but I fell that if you don't follow every rule, or at least try to, then no you aren't Christian in the least. You don't have to label yourself though. anyway your list doesn't seem Christian worthy. doesn't mean you can share some of the same beliefs as others who truley are Christian. |
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Religion to me is a weird subject. I am a christian, but I don't follow anything about it, and as I have grown up, I have had doubts about what I have heard about in Church. Though, I do believe in heaven and hell, I don't want to, and I don't tend to follow the comandments, and I don't really... care. I try to be a good person, but, it's hard for me to follow something that I can't really understand. I don't want to follow something, and then in the end, turns out not to be real at all. I want to live my life to the fullest. :?
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Also, the thing about you wanting to burn your church... i'm pretty sure that doesn't make you a Christian. :?
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I am kind of just floating out in the world, I have no religion, although I was raised Christian, I drifted away, & I would be filled with Shame if I became christian, I don't follow rules easily, I tend to be more on the Pagan side, but, I don't know. I don't want to claim i'm a certain religion, if im not. I practice what I want, when i want.
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Well, you can either follow a religion your whole life, christianity being very strict with rules, & hard to follow in the immoral world we live in today, or you can have the kinda fun everyone else is having, you can cuss, drink, be any sexuality, divorce, steal, & die happy. You have a chance of goign to hell afterwards though after, lol. Or what would suck worse, is if you followed a religion your whole life, & some totally different religion was the true one. |
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