Originally Posted by aglassbucket

You are what you want to be.
I consider myself a Christian.
I believe in God.
I don't believe in everything that many Christian's say.
I don't go to church.
Yes I cuss.
I even drink at times.

None of that matters.

Not to me at least.

I can't stand it when people force religion on someone else.
Or critisize you for your beliefs. It's your own opinion so they can shutup.-_-

• So I'm Christian if I say I am? I guess I'm Christian then xD
  
  You do remind me of myself a bit >__<. I don't drink though. I'm crazy enough, I'd go more insane with alcohol xD. We have a history of that...
  
  It does matter to me though. I'm just like that =3. I don't like religon forcers either Dx

Originally Posted by Kooky

in my personel opinion.. religion seems to be highly over rated. i dont like how most churches lead you to believe that you have to do everything the right way and the way they tell you to do it. it says in the bible that god created us from his won image. in evry aspect of that. wouldnt that mean that God sins too? i used to be a Christian. but i just find it easier to call myself Athiest because i was fed up with all the Hypocrits and liars that call themselves Religous. i listen to about every kind of filthy music, and i curse A LOT. that doesnt mean your not a Christian though. as long as you belive that YOUR right with god no matter what anyone else says. then i think that makes you the better person. if you want to talk about it more you should pm me?

There's also hypocrites in Atheism too, you know. O.o

Originally Posted by Varicose

I'm not religious, but I think the point of being Christian is other than being a saint. Some things I would not tolerate, especially if there's no guilt afterwards, most of them are your business, and yours alone, and I think other people shouldn't just slap the label "Christian" or "Not Christian" on you just because you do something or other. At least, being an outsider in it, I'd like to hope those things are decided in a more complicated way than that.

• Yeah. I mean, faith, belief, and love for God have to be in there too. I actually think those three things are more important than being a really good person. But whatever, that's just me >___<. Honestly, I'd say I'm somewhat in the middle of a Christian or non-Christian. I occasionally have my doubts after all. But most of the time, I'm sure of what I believe in and I attempt to be a decent person.

Originally Posted by PepsiHolic

You will be considered a christian when you are baptized (having the holy water put upon you) and saved (accepting Jesus as your god). Then after going to church, being active in church. Doing good things, repenting (asking for forgiveness). And much more, you will be considered a christian.

It's not the easiest to start doing. I used to hate my church but after I went to a youth camp this summer, I was saved and am beginning to enter back into church.

You just have to break yourself into the path of Christianity.

• I actually was baptized a while back. Like a year ago or two. I haven't gone to church in a week though. Also not this week since I'll be on vacation and I don't really feel bad about it. I'm actually pretty happy I'm not going this week n___n (I still hate the church that I go to...). I repent to say the least though >___<.
  
  I went to a summer Christian camp once but it was pretty dreadfully boring and I didn't really get anything out of it X.X

Update ;O

• I'm not sure if I'll be on tomorrow. In the event that I do, it won't be for very long.
  
  If I'm not on tomorrow, then I'll probably be back on Menewsha in five to six days. I'm going on a little trip :3. Keep on posting though, I'll still read and respond to all your comments either tomorrow (not likely, but possible) or the day I come back =]
  
  Thanks for all the comments so far! Keep them all coming ^___^

Well, I also hate church probably because my father drags me there every weekend. I curse pretty frequently, and I'm sure that I've made fun of people. Religion is whatever you make of it. Remember, God forgives all who have sinned as long as you have forgiven yourself for what you've done. Don't sweat it, nobody could be the perfect Christian.

Originally Posted by PepsiHolic

Yes, this is the hardest of all. Getting your friends to come to church with you is a step into helping not only you but your friend also.

• Well, my friends come sometimes to church. Although, I encourage (but not force) them to attend a church when they can get a chance. I usually say "Yeah church can be fun...But stay away from mine 'cause mine sucks >___>

Originally Posted by Reychesta

Those things don't determine if you're a good christian or not, your confidence and trust in God determines what a good christian you are. Those things you mentioned just point out if you're a good person or not.

• I do trust, believe, and love God =3. But those things are some things that an ideal Christian is. But then again, it matters what you define as a 'Christian'. But the 'listening to metal' part has nothing to do with being a good person or not though xD

it depends if you believe in God and TRY to live a good life in Gods eyes. good luck with trying to quit cussing.. I am also trying to stop.. I hope you can do it. :D

Originally Posted by YinYang

Ehh, I'm Christian too.

I mean, I think that people that grow up in a Christian family might never completely stop being somewhat Chrstian.

I mean, there's no clear border as to when you stop being a Christian or not, no?

• Side note: ;O Your signature's really cool, it matches your username 8D. It's so true =3
  
  Yeah, I was raised Christian. Although, my friend's older brother changed religons even though their family was raised Christian (as well). I think he converted to Odoism (or at least that's how my friend said it, he mumbels a lot...). It was a religon where you write in Runes. That's all I remember about it. He got like the Runes alphabet thing tatooed on his back. It looked cool xD. He may still have a bit of Christianity in him though, like you said.
  
  Hmmm, I guess so :3. I mean it doesn't say anywhere in the bible that 'If you flip someone off, your so not a Christian!' >___<. At least not to my knowledge anyway. I mean, as long as I still love, believe, and trust God then I should be considered at least a semi-Christian xD

Originally Posted by shaggysmule

to be a christian and go to heaven you have to repent of your sins, get babptised, beliveve and give you life to God.

• I repent for my sins (most of the time). I mean, I usually find some way to attempt to make up for what I did wrong. I was baptized though =D. It was probably around a couple years ago though. I believe in God but I have doubts sometimes D': . I do devote some time to God though every day ^____^

Originally Posted by FierceBunnies

You're not a good Christian. If you believe that Jesus Christ was the son of the Father, and you try to follow in his footsteps, and... it's complicated. You're a Christian, yes. Your actions do not make your faith, though they certiainly aren't... doing anything for your eternal soul.
It's hard. Trying to resist sin. You just have to think about the consequences of your actions, and try and take it all in.

• Yeah, I'm not the best Christian by a long shot xD.
  
  I do believe in Jesus Christ and all that though. I just screw up now and again. I don't happen to have the best habits exactly >___<
  
  It is hard to not sin though. I'm trying though n___n

Originally Posted by Kooky

in my personel opinion.. religion seems to be highly over rated. i dont like how most churches lead you to believe that you have to do everything the right way and the way they tell you to do it. it says in the bible that god created us from his won image. in evry aspect of that. wouldnt that mean that God sins too? i used to be a Christian. but i just find it easier to call myself Athiest because i was fed up with all the Hypocrits and liars that call themselves Religous. i listen to about every kind of filthy music, and i curse A LOT. that doesnt mean your not a Christian though. as long as you belive that YOUR right with god no matter what anyone else says. then i think that makes you the better person. if you want to talk about it more you should pm me?

So true =3

• Yeah having a religon is kind of stressful sometimes X___X. Not all churches are like that though, but a lot are. Ugh, I have church tomorrow D': . I hate, hate, hate going there (to this day). Our youth group pastor got mad at us on Mother's Day because church service was early and he angry that we were tired when we should be wide awake since we're in church. Yeah right. Maybe if he wasn't so damn boring >>;;
  
  Yeah, there's a lot of hypocrites in religons. People who sin all through the week and then on Sunday act all holy. I'm not like that though, I sin every day of the week. It doesn't have to be a day other than Sunday for me to do that xD. I screw up, and I'm willing to admit that. I just don't like those people who are all "I'm so holy..." and then get all drunk everyday other than Sunday and go to church like little angels -rolls eyes-

Well aren't there varying forms of Christianity? I mean, I'm really an Agnostic, so I can't say I know much about the Christian faith, but I don't think that just because you do those things it classifies you as less of a Christian. I mean, its really a stereotype of the religion that you're thinking of (in my opinion at least) that makes you question your faith. If you believe in what your religion stands for, then that's what you are. Your actions are the things that make you you, and just because you do something that doesn't follow a certain "trend" in your faith, it isn't something you should worry over. My cousins are very devoted Christians, but they'll still cuss you out and do things that are not "Christian-like" according to the church.

The church is really the place that enforces such crap. I mean, the religion is about your faith isn't it? I really think that it is your faith that is determining the person you are in this case, not your actions. And I know this post sounds repetative.. which it kind of is haha, but that's just how I feel about it. The church has too much say in how you should act. I think you should define yourself, and choose for yourself the actions that you take to make you that person. Ignore the norm, break out and be free~

First... taste of music is totally unrelated. It's what you love, no one should force you into liking one kind of music.

Cursing a lot isn't that big a sin. I have a friend who goes to church, she once said "Oh f*ck, I still have to go to f*cking church tonight". Only then she realised how funny this sounded. My friend is a great Christian, cursing doesn't matter at all!

Hating your church is exactly the same. My friend doesn't like to go to church either, unless her crush is there. Then she's very eager to go. You don't have to like visiting your church or anything.

And the seven sins... everyone commits them. I mean, you can't help being envious of someone, and I personally think nothing is wrong about being proud when you deserved it. You shouldn't try to express them too much, that's all. If your friend has a higher grade than you, don't go shouting "I hate you, I should've had that grade", but keep it to yourself a little.

And making fun of people is okay, as long as the people you're making fun of are okay with it.

What makes a Christian? I think it isn't about praying every day or going to church, never lying or not being jealous of someone, I think it's about truly believing in God.

But the most important thing is: let your heart lead you! Don't let anyone tell you you're not a Christian at all! You get to decide that!

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Personally, I'm an Atheïst, but I truly, deeply respect people who are religious. I think it's amazing that a person can have that much trust in something that hasn't been proven.

And what's there to lose? I mean, if there is a god (shouldn't be capitalized because I'm not specific), then you're doing everything right. If there isn't, well, then it was for nothing, but you can never be sure, right? You won't be punished for it in your next life anyway, because if there isn't a god there most likely won't be a next life. ;D

Originally Posted by FierceBunnies

heyheyhey. :D
I just wanted to point out that "cussing" and saying the Lord's name in vain is like... directly offensive to God. And a mortal sin, I think...
And yeah, mortal sins normally get you sent to Hell. Unless, of course, God has forgiven you for said sins, not neccessarily because your confession(please bear in mind that I'm approaching this with Catholic beliefs...), but because you were truely sorry. And maybe you did osmething nice? I dunno, I'm no theologian. Yet. I've only started doing my major research. :DD
So if I got anything wrong, don't be surprised. And I'm not too sure about Protestant faiths, though don't they belief that you can be saved through faith alone? :O

Hey, hey, hey, to you too ;D

• Yes, I cuss. I don't say the Lord's name in vain though. I mean, I say stuff like "Oh shiiit D<" but I don't say "God-dammit D<" or anything. I curse, but God isn't included in the cursing >___<.
  
  About me getting sent to hell...I'm not sure if I will. Maybe yes? Maybe no? I have no clue. I hoping for a "no" for hell though. I'd rather take the Stairway To Heaven than the Highway To Hell (Led Zeppelin and AC/DC haha).
  
  I'm not sure if you got anything wrong or not, I wouldn't really know exactly. My church doesn't have a confession booth or anything since I'm not Catholic. But I pray to God though, like "Oh man, did I screw up today! xD"
  
  Saved by faith alone ;O? That'd be awesome <333. But I'm not sure if that's true or not Dx

Originally Posted by Stephanie

Do what you want and believe what you want, that doesn't make you any less Christian than the next person.

Me? I'm a Roman-Catholic. But I don't do everything the Bible tells me to. I really don't care because I think God'll understand those are my views and if he doesn't like it then fuck it I'm not changing. I've said "Oh my God!" so many times and I've used the word "Goddamn" more times than I can count. I hate preaching but I am willing to talk about it if someone is ignorant or if someone needs clarification. I have 'fantasies' and I support homosexuals and the right for them to get married. I semi-support abortion and then I'll say no to death and wars. Religion should not determine your everyday decisions either. Morals should, religions just lay the morals down for you and then you choose which ones you want to abide by.

Christianity though, I think all you really should and need to do is believe in God and that Jesus was his son and our savior; Also you should confess 'sins' to him every now and then. Or even just chat with him. I'll lie down in bed and talk to the dude for hours sometimes, but I don't feel I need to confess my sins to him if we both know what I screwed up.

I'll add more later, but I have to make dinner ;-;

• I know the feeling of that. When I was younger, I would say "Oh my god! ;O" just about every single day xD. Seriously :3. But then, I thought I shouldn't use God's name in vain so I pretty much stopped that n____n.
  
  I think all those stuff you said is just you being human. I mean, I'm all for homosexuality as well. Personally, I'm not though. I'm straight. But if two people love each other but happen to be the same gender, then I believe they have the right to get married if they want :]. No one should tell them otherwise. I think abortions are fine. I'm sort of alright with them, but I'm not really against or for it. But I mean, if someone really needs it, then they should take the oppurtunity =3.
  
  I think chatting with God is more enjoyable then saying "Oh I messed up on this, this, and this..." . I usually get to me screwing up sometime into the conversation though xD

Originally Posted by The Amazing Fetus

Religion is all about faith and believing in something. Just because you break rules doesn't make you any less of a believer. Everybody sins and nobody is perfect. Guidelines religion sets out is, well, guide lines.
It's kind of like a moral back support that people rely on but you shouldn't use it to make your every decision. Then again, I'm not very religous so what I say shouldn't really be taken all that seriously.

Side note: ;O I love your signature. 'Rawr' is an awesome word <333

• I have faith and I believe in God. And I love him too of course >___<. But, I think that following some of the 'guidelines' as you call them, will make you a better Christian. Or at least, that's what I think about it.
  
  No, I actually like hearing view points from people who are of many different religons. Or someone who maybe doesn't even have a religon. Thanks for letting me know your opinion on the matter n____n

Originally Posted by FierceBunnies

Oh, and the Church's (as in the Romacn Catholic Church) stance on the bible is this:
It's is completely, spiritually true.
Though not necessarily historically and scientifically true.
That's not to say that it's completely bogus. At all. :D <3

Whaa? I'm confused X.X

• I'm not Roman Catholic, but alright :3
  
  I'm kind of confused now xD. It's "spiritually" true but not scientifically and historically true?
  
  o___O
  
  So maybe it's bull, and maybe it's not? I'm getting a headache thinking about it xDD. I'm guessing that means if you believe it's true, than it just is.

Christian: a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.

I don't see how sinning makes you any less of a Christian...

Originally Posted by shaggysmule

yeah I am trying to tone down on the cussing also.. I am trying harder to be a better person.. and such.. the main reason I cuss is cuz im onthe football team and like everyone cusses so it is just the enviroment im in.

• Yeah, the enviorment you're in can really alter how you are as a person =3. All my friends, generally don't swear---not that often, anyway. But I used to a lot D': . So I haven't a clue to where all my swearing is coming from :S . Maybe, I'm just like that xD

I am actually a person that believes in god, but I don't belong to any set up religion.
I even read the bible, but I just can't conform to the society's standards of an organized religion where half the people are hypocrites.
So most of the world will tell me I am not Christian because I don't go to church.
But I have this saying.
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than sitting in a barn makes you a horse!
So with that in mind, I don't think that a religion makes you Christian.
I don't think that following a set of rules makes you Christian.
I believe that a belief in God and Jesus Christ makes you Christian.
Those are my thoughts on that.
I hope that they don't offend.

Originally Posted by Ocean Rose Soldier

There's also hypocrites in Atheism too, you know. O.o

• True :3. But then again, I think there's hypocrites in just about every religon >___<. We all can't be religous 24/7 I guess x)

hmm.... I still think you're a Christian, I prayed 2x ( to say i accepted god as my savior) but my parents say Imma not a Christian I consider myself as a Christian still, it's hard, but as long as you ask God to forgive you, and try not to do thoose things then I think you're still a Christian!
P.s. What are the 7 deathly sins?
GOod luck w/ the Christian life~~

No one is perfect, no matter what the religion. If you believe in Christianity and practice the faith, that alone makes you a Christian, right?

I don't think anyone here is able to judge if another is a "good" or a "poor" (insert religious name here), you know? ^_^;