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#51
Old 09-12-2007, 09:46 PM

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This is likely going to sound mean, cruel or generally uncaring. Maybe that's what it is. But yesterday I didn't realize it was 9-11 until about, oh, ten p.m. last night. Even though I'd been in school all day, scribbling the date everywhere.

Look, you want tragedy? Turn on the news. I guarantee that every day without fail you'll hear of at least one death; a car accident, a murder, a suicide, a fire, something. And yet no one remembers those separate "little" deaths except for those who are directly affected by it. My question is- what makes 9-11 so damned special compared to all the other tragedy that's going on in the world? People died. Unexpectedly. Well, uh, I hate to break it to you but that happens every single day, all over the world.

So I don't see why people should expect everyone else to mourn for that one specific date. They've all got their own little tragedies to worry about. I experienced my first big family death last January. Am I going to expect all my friends and their friends to come mourn with me the day I go visit my grandmother's grave? No. It's my death, it's my mourning.

Do whatever you want. Mourn who and whatever you want to mourn. But don't expect the world to do it with you. It's got it's own problems.

That came out a little harsher than I expected, but.. *Shrugs*
::claps::
I completely agree with you.
:D
People just can't get over it because it was a huge tragedy that happened all at once in their precious United States.
::sigh::
so close minded >.>
you dont see the difference between tsunamis,hurricanes,earthquakes that destroy people and 9/11 do you...
think hard...
9/11 was a MAN-MADE attack to one of the leading countries of the world. It was not a force of nature ,but rather a attack held by other human beings in which resulted in the death of thousands(not just one or 20 that you hear on the news everyday >.>) and war due to a direct attack to U.S. soil, property and it being a federal building made it real buisness
same with the pentagon
the world trade center is, if you didnt guess a center of TRADING for the U.S. and thousands of other countries
the world trade center, as said, conducts the transfers and trades between the different countries. Don't you think thats not important to a country
not just the U.S., but to any country
you dont realize how much that affected the economy, and how much data and world wide information was lost.
Look at the details , not just the big picture
Ive done more than 3 years research on 9/11 after it happened and i know my share of what really happenend
But apparrantly too many people are just looking at 9/11 as an attack at famous buildings that killed alot of people
those people have no idea what else is behind 9/11
do you think osama just said, "hmmm...this building seems to have alot of people in it, lets bomb it as a presentation of our hate to americans" NO, it isnt that simple no matter how much you want it to be...
i bet you'd difinently change your minds if you were directly affected by 9/11, such as losing a loved one, or actually watch it happen before your eyes...you have no idea....
i dont ask anyone to mourn with me, nor even try to remember with me
but you dont realize...that 9/11 put every country in the planet called earth on high alert...
I wont waste anymore time here
so ill leave it at that...peace out...


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#52
Old 09-13-2007, 03:17 AM

The way I see it is that its been six years, and those poor people still can't rest in peace.
Its like princess Diana all over again.
It was a bad thing to happen yes, but there comes a point where you have to get over it and move on.
Whining about it for 6 years, isn't going to change the fact that it happened. >.>;;;

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#53
Old 09-13-2007, 03:22 AM

if we made 9/11 the equivalent of the fourth of july, what would that portray? that america is a country that celebrates war? we need to remember happy times, and let the sad go after an appropriate time. if we remember every sad date in history, we'd have none to be happy in.

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#54
Old 09-13-2007, 06:50 AM

I celebrated 9/11. Because My grandma turned 81 that day. :P The cake was delicious.

In all honesty, I must say-- get over it. Yes, it was a tragic event, yes a lot of people died, yes it is a day that will go down in history books.

But ya know what? It's been six years. There are other tragedies and events in our lives to fret over, and things will just be blown off when the next big tragedy happens. In comparison to some of the other great mishaps/tragedies/whatnots in the past, this is actually fairly small. It just seems larger than it should, because it's recent, and it's an even that just seems to have been blown completely out of proportion.... not to mention horribly exploited and abused.

Why get a holiday for 9/11/01? Should we not get a holiday for December 7, 1941? Should we not have the days of April 12th and 13th off, to celebrate the first battle of the monumental war that swept the American nation in 1861? How about we have a national day of silence for the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19?

Oh wait. Most of those events are old. Who the fuck gives a shit about old events?

Face it- September 11's attacks are old news. not many people care. Not many people want to care. Plus it's not like it was the ONLY horrible event to happen in the history of the universe. Just move on with life already.

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#55
Old 09-13-2007, 06:55 AM

People online are some of the stupidest I've ever met....You're school must be dim or men exceptionally smart....

Anyway, 9/11 Yes it effected me, possably more deeply than it did most people in my country. But I won't mope over it. It could have been prevented and things about it don't add up. But to be frank my current events are far more pressing than anything that happened in the past. Although I am still a firm believer in poppy day and our minutes silnce for the world wars I will not stay silent for the twin towers, I'll remember it, probably for the rest of my life, but I won't put things on hold to show that I remember it.

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#56
Old 09-13-2007, 08:43 AM

Personally, if I had lost someone on 9/11 I wouldn’t want it to be shoved in my face every year. It has been long enough where, in my opinion, people shouldn’t need to say anything about it. I mean look at the dates where the Civil war was fought, no one goes back and brings that up any more. I know it’s not as recent but the point is that other tragic events in the country’s history aren’t brought up every year and they affected the country as a whole more than 9/11 did so yeah, I think it is time that people let it go.

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#57
Old 09-13-2007, 07:37 PM

Sadly, they forgot at my school too...sorta.
There was no voice mentioning the 9.11 through the intercom at my school. My science teacher weared a vest with the patterns of a US flag, and we spent the whole social studies period talking about it.
That was it. I do agree though, it was tragic.

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#58
Old 09-13-2007, 09:25 PM

It doesn't really effect me much because I was only eight when it happened and I had no clue what was going on. I did feel solemn, and there was a nice service at my school for it. I was disappointed that we didn't talk about it in History class, because I would have loved to have an in depth discussion about it.

Although, I do think as a country, we should move on with our lives. No one gets upset when we forget the attack on Pearl Harbor. I'm not saying that we should forget about 9/11, but perhaps America shouldn't shut down on that day. Soon it's going to be the tenth anniversary of the attacks. Hearts can't heal if they aren't given the chance.

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#59
Old 09-13-2007, 09:50 PM

unfortunately they are thinking of making 9/11 a holiday, which is stupid...

sorry, but to me if they are going to make a holiday they need to make a holiday about something important that happened...pretty soon every day will be a holiday

crap happens get over it world, sure many people died, sure the economy sucked a bit afterward but nothings going to change if you dont make it...

now look where we are at....we've got all these crack pipe democrates wanting to be president, a president who IS a crackpipe and who to me, is SLOWLY, making things right, and a nation full of itself >.>;

and I agree, I think it needs to be left behind....

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Old 09-13-2007, 09:55 PM

On 9/11, I had a math test, and one of the questions was 'name an important event that happened on this day'. Well, I got all worked up because I honestly couldn't remember. I eventually figured it out, and I felt really bad about it. I was in 5th grade when the terrorist attacks occurred. So, really, it's been a while. I think this is something people need to remember and admit was a tragic thing, but it's nothing to dwell on. Our younger teens/children especially. They/we were really little when this happened, and so it didn't affect us much. It did for those who lost family, but the rest of us, not so much. 9/11 was a sad day, but it's something we've got to move on about.

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#61
Old 09-13-2007, 10:31 PM

Honestly, people should really just move on already. Not to sound rude, or anything, but it happened half a decade ago. Sure, it affected a lot of people but said people probably don't appreciate the reminder that oh, by the way, today your mom/dad/brother/sister/etc died with many other people right?? :D k let's dig up bad memories and act as if it'll make you feel any better

I mean, it was sad and all but six years is a bit excessive for many people to mourn over something that likely didn't even affect them. If you want to mourn because a relative/friend was killed/harmed, go ahead and feel free to, but to weep over something that didn't touch you in the slightest beyond the fact that people died seems odd. I mean, we should feel bad about it but we've been feeling bad for six years. And they're still doing announcements about it at my school (most kids didn't even know what happened then because we were too young to know what was going on properly).

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#62
Old 09-13-2007, 11:24 PM

I care... but some people just like to stay quiet.

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#63
Old 09-13-2007, 11:42 PM

I'm home schooled so I didn't exactly hear a lot about 9/11 anywhere.

But it was all over the news.

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#64
Old 09-14-2007, 03:25 AM

Not everyone is the same.
I was in 2nd grade when it happened.
I can't really remember what happened, I just remembering watching the TV replay the same scene over and over again.
And I'm like on the opposite coast, so yeah.

Yes, it's sad, but we should get over it.
My history teacher only spent a few minutes talking about it and went back to the usual stuff.
None of my friends brought it up and I never thought about it when I was with them.

I don't like the news. The people always talk about what's wrong. It just makes people scared and worried, sure, it informs people, but people can't lead normal lives if they too scared to even leave the house. Unless they have the phobia of leaving the house, then, that's another story.

And just because some people don't want to talk about 9/11 every year doesn't mean that they are selfish.
I mean, 150 years from now, 9/11 will be in books, but not that many, and very few people might even read it. Why? Because there are gonna be even more things that happen, more attacks, more wars, etc.

Try not to get stuck on the past, and move on. Little by little, if you can.

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#65
Old 09-14-2007, 03:40 AM

"A variety of conspiracy theories have emerged which contradict the mainstream account of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The most visible group of conspiracy theorists is the 9/11 truth movement, whose claims typically include suggestions that individuals in the government of the United States knew of the impending attacks and refused to act on that knowledge, or that the attacks were a false flag operation carried out with the intention of stirring up the passions and winning the allegiance of the American people in order to facilitate military spending, the restriction of civil liberties, and a program of aggressive and profitable foreign policy.

Most members of the 9/11 truth movement claim that the collapse of the World Trade Center was the result of a controlled demolition and that United Airlines Flight 93 was shot down. While some also contend that a commercial airliner did not crash into the Pentagon, this position is debated within the 9/11 Truth Movement, with many who believe that AA Flight 77 did crash there, but that it was allowed to crash via an effective stand down of the military."


With all the heresay going around I think that 9/11 should be gently let go...

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Old 09-14-2007, 04:04 AM

At my school we didn't really show a lot of acknowledgement for 9/11. Truth be told, I didn't even notice until someone said what day it was in Economy class.

I was never impacted by 9/11. I can feel respect for the firefighters and the brave passengers who stopped one of the terrorists from using the passenger plane for their destructive purposes, and sacrificed themselves. That's really all the respect I intensively feel. I'm sorry that people are suffering for their loved ones deaths. But I can't mope about it. I didn't even know what the Towers were, I was in elementary school. And now, when I think of 9/11, all I think of is how fucked up the country is right now with the War on Terror crap. And Bush. I am so voting this year, now that I can. I only wish I could have voted in the last presidential election. Not that it would have mattered. >\

So, on 9/11, I don't feel sad. I feel mad and exhasperated with how the country is being run now as a consequence, and how we all let it be run this way. Human nature. The excuse for everything.

And as if we should act sad purposely for this day. In other places there are worse atrocities (yeah, WORSE) everyday. Darfur, anyone? I'd rather feel extremely sad and morose for them if I had to act sad to commemorate something at all. I think what people are suffering during the wars around them (how about that we're fighting and killing "terrorism" in Iraq, and not fighting here in the USA? Now that would be something) deserve more "moments of silence" in sympathy and sorrow than 9/11. 9/11 to me is merely a reminder, something we should learn from. Not exactly solemn, but something we should get passion from and a desire to not repeat mistakes, by not letting our civillians get killed, to build better relations with the world, and become a better country. Not mope; there are better and more useful ways to acknowledge 9/11.

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Old 09-15-2007, 01:55 AM


  • I remembered it.
    I couldn't forget something that big.

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#68
Old 09-15-2007, 08:47 PM

That's 'cause everyone in the United States wishes they lived in Japan! Japanophiles ftw!! God I hate that.

Anyway, yeah, it did seem like no one cared. I was like wtf. o_O The only mention of it that I heard at school came from my first hour teacher.. and just "oh yeah guys, 6 years ago today, 9/11 - sad stuff. moving on..".

I watched the history channel though.. all day that day. Had a buncha 9/11 stuffs lol..

plus watched the World Trade Center movie.

All the heroism and everything that occurred that day; how and why would you want to forget it, you know? I'm proud of how we handled that day, society wise. Not so proud of how the president handled it I guess.. but still. NYC was attacked, and I think they, as well as all the other firefighters and rescue crew that went, did a terrific job.

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#69
Old 09-15-2007, 09:17 PM

Well, it's been six years, not much of point of grieving over it, I know, people have died, but there is nothing we can do to change it, might as well just get on with our lives, and hoping nothing like this will happen again.

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Old 09-15-2007, 11:14 PM


Barely anyone in my school remembered.
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It wasn't until people saw me wearing red, white, and blue did they go, "OH! Today's 9-11!"

One of my teachers remembered, though. She wore red, white, and blue, and for an assignment we wrote a paper on what we remember from that day.

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Old 09-16-2007, 01:14 AM

On 9/11, only one person mentioned it, and that was my English teacher. She just made us write a little 5-minute warm up freewrite about it at the beginning of class. They didn't even mention it on the announcements. I didn't wear red white and blue, but I thought about it during the day. My friends and I mentioned it a few times at lunch. Other than that, it was just like any other day.

And as for the kid who thought they should get the day off, you're right. That's pretty selfish of him.

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#72
Old 09-16-2007, 02:30 AM

I know I didn't wear red, white, and blue. I didn't mention it.
But that's because I already know, 9/11 happened. I'm reminded of it often when ever I watch the news. There was an overload of 9/11 stuff for years, and it still happens. But I'm not going to cry, or get upset. I'll feel bad on the inside that it ever had to happen. But I feel the same way, with Pearl Habor bombing and Hiroshima. But there's nothing I can do about it now. So I have to let it go.
But the only way we can get on with life is if we let go and continue our life. If we continue to morn past events, we can't move on and enjoy the happiness we have in the present.
I think that's why it may seem like no one cares, when it's really the we can't care any more if we want to live.

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Old 09-16-2007, 02:51 AM

It HAS been six years since it happened, and I believe that people should begin to get over it. It happened. I don't believe that it was a frame-up, and I don't think that it "never happened". (I can't believe that people actually say that... I believe that they might, but that's just stupid on a whole new level.)

I feel that acknowledging it is fine, and for those who were personally involved, yeah--they might still be grieving. That's very understandable. But for the rest of the country, it's in the past. It's an awful, horrible thing in the past. Remembering it is fine, but obsessing over it is something else. A lot of the country--and the world--wants (and needs) to get past it.

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Old 09-16-2007, 04:51 AM

  • Anyone commemorate the Holocaust besides the History channel? The Rape of Nanjing? WWII Atom bomb?

    Yeah I get what you're saying, everyone should remember it, but no one wants to make a big deal of it anymore. It being in our memory is enough. There has been so many horrible events in the world, but these events can't be what our day revolves around.

    And yeah some weirdos will say it never happened. Just like the three events I mentioned before, some people don't believe it happened.

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Old 09-16-2007, 05:15 AM

I work in a kindergarten class. I think the only time I mentioned it at any point that day was when I was going through their folders and realized that every single one of them was born after 9/11 happened. The oldest kid in the class wasn't born until October of 2001. I mentioned it to the teacher, we had a shared moment of "Wow," and that was the extent of it.

I came home and rewatched some news reports and a few "OMG conspiracy" videos on youtube, though. I tend to do that every September 11.

 


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