[ have I posted here already..? Oh well ]

Well, the only memory I have of 9/11 was that they sent everybody outside and everybody was silent, like everyone was a ghost, you could say. They were saying something about maybe there being a bombing on the school. So why did they sent us right outside of school..? Ho, I dunno. Not exactly safe. Well I got picked up by my dad and thats it.

9/11 seems like any other disaster to me, in my opinion.

I was talking to some online friends about it and they didn't seem as bothered as me and were like "You didn't know anyone who died so you shouldn't care about it".

But like, I can still empathise with the families of the victims, can't I?

Not many people at college were talking about it either.

It got me kinda upset.

Ah well, I guess people are different.

I live in Argentina and I think I am the only person in here that was so affected by the 9/11 events in NY, I mean maybe Im wrong but I even cried 6 years ago by watching the news, I am so much sorry for all the families and their lost, moreover I feel sorry about the people living in the states, guys you have no idea of what the opinion of your country is OUTSIDE it, ...I have friends everywhere means Australia, Europe, Americas and really you are the most hated nation of all and no it is not jelausy it is all your goverment did to all the rest of the world for you to be 1st world...it is like Im sorry for the people because they have lived the last 60 years inside a dream and a bubble of undercovered events, the american dream only works for the 10% of the population? then there is no american dream for you.
America has been a big lie since its start.
I feel sorry about all of you because I know the people of America is good people, with good intentions but their goverments have made a HUGE list of mistakes and cannot hide the msitakes any more.....we all know what they are and that is why we disgust them.
You thought you were the creme of the creme (top of the world) nah...nah...you were told you were...but it was just a comercial, one of the many you have.
Admiration for a country? well that would be Japan, that would be my own country, that would be Canada....Im sorry If I am offending someone I still think people in there is lovely and have many many good friends.

i'm canadian :) we had a moment of silence at work today, just to remember.

You aren't very well informed Trinity.
I have rarely met another person who does not despise America.
I live here, and the people here hate being Americans.
I'm sorry, but I've never done anything truly wrong or blindly followed my country just because.
I can't help where I am born.

No one is truly being fed how great America is anymore.
I'm amazed that people never seem to notice what is or is not being shoved down their throats.
The opinion that America's people are stupid and violent seems to be the most popular thing to feed people.
I find myself falling into the same trend occasionally.
A bunch of us are, but not all of us.
That isn't fair.
Do I sound illusioned to you?

Do you dislike me now?
Just for bring American.
I like you.

I don't think 9/11 and being an American nationalist are the same thing.
I'm not saying "How dare we the ultimate supreme (elitists) be attacked",
I don't feel that way.
I'm saying "Look at all those people who died. I feel sad for them and their relatives".

I know the things my government has done.
I don't want to live here, but I have no choice.

((All of this was meant to be a friendly arguement. I am in no way attacking you and I think no less of you. Wanted to make that clear. ^^;))

I don't really care. I went on with my day like normal.

It's the past, and what happened, happened. I'm not about to try to change the world for it, or anything. My school had an assembly for it and ofcourse, knowing me, I participated properly. But, it was SIX. YEARS. AGO. I was over it the minute it happened. I remember sitting in math class and my teacher came in and was like.."The world trade centers were just bombed." Ofcourse she left and was crying because her sister lived close by and her husband was there for something.

But other than that, I can't see why people make a big deal about it now. Ofcourse, it was a tragic thing that happened. But, honestly, I'm not ruining and screwing up my whole damn day just for that sole purpose. I have things to do, and places to be. I'm not stopping to pray every ten seconds or do any sort of stuff to make a big deal out of it.

when bad things happen people tend to try and ignore them so they don't feel that recurring pain. sometimes even though it may not seem right they feel they need to act like it isn't even existent. some people don't really understand it so they try and push it away. some people are ignorant and don't care. And some people....are just..people

That is an eloquetn way of putting it. I thank you kuro.

Sanctuary I understand your position I feel relief in a way when you tell me that people in America are "awaken" from the dream and besides I said I was sorry for the people because they were inocent of the conspiracy and also very good people , never said they were stupid or violent though.....well we all know they are, I understand how hard it must be to live under the "roof" were all these things are happening...Im sorry for that and I do I repeat I do care a lot about what happened cause the population suffered as usual, the ones that pay are the common normal individuals here , there and everywhere...

Don't apologize.

There is nothing to be sorry about.
The people around me are ignorant and do and believe as they are told.
They are currently being taught America is bad, and so, they beleive it 100%
Even though, they are America.
They use detatchment to try and distance themselves.
Stupid and violent is purely what I tend to hear when America is discussed and I know you are not saying it.

I hope I didn't sound like I was attacking you.
It's so hard to tell what people mean through words =)
I'm so bad at expressing things this way x3

Originally Posted by Sanctuary

That is an eloquetn way of putting it. I thank you kuro.

Ah, Anytime love

Originally Posted by Scribble Me Orange

My school had an assembly for it and ofcourse, knowing me, I participated properly. But, it was SIX. YEARS. AGO. I was over it the minute it happened.

This really jumped out at me, and I hope it isn't true. Yes, horrible things happen all over the world all the time. But if all those things have desensitized you so much that you got over 9/11 so quickly ... I dunno. I just find that incredibly sad. And not sad in the "You're so lame to get over it so fast" sense, but literally sad. Tragic, maybe.

I don't think we should spend every minute of every day dwelling on it. I understand the "time to move on" sentiment. But I also think that remembrance and respect for those events are important at appropriate times.

I didn't really care. In fact, I don't think I really even noticed.

9/11 didn't affect me much, so it's not a big deal to me.

Originally Posted by Lovvy

I didn't really care. In fact, I don't think I really even noticed.

9/11 didn't affect me much, so it's not a big deal to me.

hn.

@Sanctuary Its ok dear thanks for being kind it is nice to keep conversations with polite people like you, I understand I just hope for the best for the people in there and everywhere else.
It is sad honestly I wouldnt like things to be this way but sadly it is a world problem even if it looks like it is more notorious in the USA.

Personally, I never really cared. I mean, people are getting shot, raped, stabbed and beat up at home, on the streets, at schools, everywhere. People are dying from illnesses and getting framed and going to jail for no reason, some even death setenced. Yet, nobody cares. My relative died in a car crash 5 months ago along with a few other people, nobody talked about it, there wasn't a momment of silence. My friend died from a food poisoning 2 years ago, that was never announced.
But one of many planes that crashes and burns, is suddenly so respected, just because it hit an 'important' building? Is a Plane crashing into a house of a family, not an important building? PSH.

Sad today most people do not care because it is in the past. Everyone thought something was going to happen that day ..but nothing which is a good thing America has enough problems. I do think we should get that day off as well.

Originally Posted by ` Ebil

Sad today most people do not care because it is in the past. Everyone thought something was going to happen that day ..but nothing which is a good thing America has enough problems. I do think we should get that day off as well.

I dunno, we don't get a day off in remembrance of Pearl Harbor so I'm not sure we should get one for 9/11.

Touching on your other point - I think these days it's also considered cool and edgy to be (or at least fake being) unaffected. It makes me terribly sad, but I've been seeing it crop up a bit in high school and college kids and yowch.

Do you know when all tragedies happened? Our country has a very short history, but can you even name all the battles that people have died in, all the attacks, ANYTHING like that? Why don't those deserve to be remembered any more than 9/11? People die every day. Do you mourn the children that parents lose every day, to rapists, gangs, murder, anything? Do you mourn the accidents, do you mourn the direct cruel violence that happens each and every single day in the country?

And you're right, there isn't a lot of nationalism, at least not the good kind. The only real nationalists are those who support the country blindly. I don't blame other countries for hating us, honestly. We're arrogant, and we're ignorant. We have a huge illiteracy rate considering how 'advanced' we're supposed to be, and we waste so much it's ridiculous. We're a consumerist nation and we snub the rest of the world; why should we expect anyone to care about us? We're pricks, and that's honestly why I'm not nationalist.

Not to mention the president milked the whole event for his war campaign, but this isn't a thread about the war so I won't get started on that.

9/11 is a tragedy. Yes. Okay. People died. But you know what? People don't want to memorialise all the other mass deaths. What about bombings and shootings that happen every day? The only reason people think of 9/11 as important is because we lost a national monument of sorts.

I don't mean the people affected DIRECTLY, of course. I consider my good friend's death worth remembering, but most people wouldn't even know about it. But the only reason this particular event is so drawn out is because it destroyed something significant. Not lives. BUILDINGS.

You think about it. If this had happened in a city somewhere, but no national monuments were lost, do you think it would be such a "big deal?"

And don't think I'm cold just because I wasn't affected by things. But you know, this isn't the first disaster and it isn't the last. Hell, I lived about thirty minutes north of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. I lost everything. We're lucky we didn't lose our lives. But you know what? I don't expect it to be a holiday, no matter how many people and buildings were lost, and most people wouldn't even think it COMPARES since it was a natural disaster and not the work of "terrorists."

But that doesn't stop me from caring, does it?

Anyway, I lost my point somewhere. XD All in all, people are greedy and self-centered. And you know, that's not going to change. If they weren't affected by it directly, why would they want to remember it? They don't pay attention to the millions of other deaths every day. Why are those people so special?

Super Beepy- My problem is, yes, I do mourn every loss I hear about.
I'm too empathetic, I know it, but have trouble helping it.
I mourn every death that I am aware of.

I didn't mean to pick out 9/11 as the only thing to be remembered. That was foolish of me to word that so. I'm afraid I've never gotten the hang of my diction. I say 9/11, but I meant to say people don't mourn tradjedies in general and was using 9/11 as one example out of many.

Oh. WELL.

In that case you're right. People are insensitive jerks. And it makes me angry, hence the rant. The anger wasn't directed at you, dear. ;3<3 It just makes me irritable that people are so ignorant and uncaring. I've given up hope on them.

And just so you know, I do mourn the tragedy. And others as well, like you. That's why the lack of empathy on OTHERS' part makes me unhappy. :/

I think the reason that nobody cares anymore is because the majority of the states' population didn't lose a loved one or a friend. Many of us were lucky. Also, with time comes healing.
I understand what it feels like to lose someone you care about, and I always sympathize with those who are still hurt. I'm not insensitive at all towards that subject, because it's a struggle during their lives. I wouldn't have wanted to be a victim neither directly nor indirectly. Many indirect harmed victims still feel the loss. I don't think we should lose a school day on it either. Hmm, I guess one can't dwell in the past though lest they reopen old wounds.
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