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memarcus 10-23-2007 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Komitadjie
Well, I'm off for some sleep.

In summary: This is a valid threat, if a rare one. Don't put your face over the cup when you take it out, and don't bake the bluewhite blazes out of it, and chances are you'll never see it in your lifetime.

yeah, exactly. i personally, given this information, would rather avoid putting liquids in the microwave. but if people realize that the chances of this occurring is incredibly rare and feel safe putting liquids in the microwave they are also free to do so. but i feel people still need to be informed and aware of what can occur as well as be informed of ways to possibly prevent this from occurring so they can determine for themselves whether they want to continue to put liquids in the microwave.

memarcus 10-23-2007 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StormRose
A firend of mine was playing with fireworks. He was loopy off cotton candy and wasn't paying attention. I don't know how it happened, but he had pretty nasty burns up his left side for the longest while

actually that reminds me of another severe story burn involving fireworks that happened to another friend of mine. apparently one of my friends thought it was a brilliant idea to hold a lit firework in his hand. he wound up burned all on the left side of his body. he's ok now, but i'm wondering where he got the notion that was going to be a good idea.

StormRose 10-23-2007 07:29 AM

It might be the same person...X-x Cause some boys just don't think once that adrenaline gets going...XD Then again, that's probably for the best

memarcus 10-23-2007 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StormRose
It might be the same person...X-x Cause some boys just don't think once that adrenaline gets going...XD Then again, that's probably for the best

omg, lol. i doubt it. but it's funny how people around the country, or around the world can share in the fact that they have done the exact same dumbass things.

StormRose 10-23-2007 07:39 AM

*nods* Stupidity isn't unique

memarcus 10-23-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by StormRose
*nods* Stupidity isn't unique

oh yeah, so true. one of my favorite quotes is:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

- Albert Einstein

Wingo 10-23-2007 08:04 AM

For super heating to occur you need various conditions to be met: a perfectly smooth, clean container, no disturbance (both of which you said) and de-ionised and distilled water with no impurities.

Now how often do people place that kind of water in the microwave?

The reason behind the need for the pure water and smooth container is the fact that there are no nucleation sites for bubbles to form and boil. With a scratched container the scratches can trap tiny pockets of air, which act as nucleation sites. Also impurities and objects such as a teaspoon, sugar cubes, coffee, popsicle stick, etc allow boiling to occur as they provide nucleation sites.

The reason behind the flash boiling is superheating is an unnatural state. It occurs when a liquid exceeds its boiling temperature without boiling. Any slight disturbance, such as adding sugar, coffee, a teaspoon or by shaking the water the unnatural state is disturbed and the water instantly boils, which is often viewed as the water exploding.

Why such a long rant? Well, I'm just making a point that it is very rare and hard to make this phenomenon occur. The sheer nature of the objects placed in microwaves prevent this from happening, as I said you need completely pure water to make this plausible. Speaking of plausible, I do believe Mythbusters covered this and deemed it busted as it would be impossible to occur in a home environment. If you are still concerned about this happening, don't bother with gimmick lids and containers to prevent it. Add in your coffee and sugar before you place it in a microwave, or add in a teaspoon or popsicle stick.

memarcus 10-23-2007 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wingo
For super heating to occur you need various conditions to be met: a perfectly smooth, clean container, no disturbance (both of which you said) and de-ionised and distilled water with no impurities.

Now how often do people place that kind of water in the microwave?

The reason behind the need for the pure water and smooth container is the fact that there are no nucleation sites for bubbles to form and boil. With a scratched container the scratches can trap tiny pockets of air, which act as nucleation sites. Also impurities and objects such as a teaspoon, sugar cubes, coffee, popsicle stick, etc allow boiling to occur as they provide nucleation sites.

The reason behind the flash boiling is superheating is an unnatural state. It occurs when a liquid exceeds its boiling temperature without boiling. Any slight disturbance, such as adding sugar, coffee, a teaspoon or by shaking the water the unnatural state is disturbed and the water instantly boils, which is often viewed as the water exploding.

Why such a long rant? Well, I'm just making a point that it is very rare and hard to make this phenomenon occur. The sheer nature of the objects placed in microwaves prevent this from happening, as I said you need completely pure water to make this plausible. Speaking of plausible, I do believe Mythbusters covered this and deemed it busted as it would be impossible to occur in a home environment. If you are still concerned about this happening, don't bother with gimmick lids and containers to prevent it. Add in your coffee and sugar before you place it in a microwave, or add in a teaspoon or popsicle stick.

all this was mentioned in my first post, including the fact that it was a rare occurrence. i also stated this repeatedly in regards to posts other users have made. however, just because it's a rare occurrence doesn't mean that people shouldn't be informed about this situation. i already stated this example earlier, but getting struck by lightning is a rare occurrence, however, holding a metal rod may increase your chances of getting hit by lightning. while liquid being placed in the microwave is a rare occurrence, it is important to note that under certain circumstances that liquid placed in the microwave can be potentially dangerous, and there are ways to even minimize this rare danger as well. the fact that i went into such a lengthy post seems to disregard the fact that my friend had a personal devastating experience with this type of occurrence, leading me to feel that people needed to be informed that while rare this does occur. there have also been other people that have posted within this own thread relating a similar hazardous experience with placing liquid in the microwave, so i don't think it's as rare as you would like to think.

Bunnyy 10-23-2007 12:20 PM


Woah that`s really scary ... o.o

I remember once I accidently froze a carton of Ribena so I stupidly put it into the microwave to de-frost it .
It burst into flames ... DDD:
It was so scary !! DDDx

secretdae007 10-23-2007 01:41 PM

If you know how to use your microwave properly and know all the proper procedures, I don't see why you can't put liquids in... Microwaves were made to make things easier, so I'll use it all the time if I want. I'm not about to break out a pot and put it on the stove for one cup of hot chocolate...

I feel like the next thing that was going to be said is that the "radiation" from the microwave is going to kill you >.>

By the way, only one of those sites mentioned in the first post is somewhat reliable.

Queen Nehalania 10-23-2007 01:49 PM

Well I've never had anything major happen.
One time my soup started boiling over and it got the microwave dirty.
Nothing serious though.

I don't often put liquids in the microwave anyhow.

Nissa 10-23-2007 01:57 PM

I tripped once and knocked a pot of boiling water all over my girl bits and right leg. The skin bubbled off and it hurt a lot. Very nasty 2nd degree burns from that one, plus I was 'bald' for quite a while. :o

Bunnyy 10-23-2007 02:05 PM


o.o

Woah .... xD
I don`t have any burn marks on me .. ^__^;

Edit; Haha, this lack-of-sleepness is getting to me a lil ... o.o

Noyin 10-23-2007 02:08 PM

why did you friend put distilled water in the microwave?

Titenya 10-23-2007 02:09 PM

any liquid, when heated in a microwave will be hot an cause burns. I have been using a microwave to cook for 20 or so years, and I have never had a liquid explode on me... I've had popcorn bags catch on fire and an egg explode when i was making hardboiled eggs in college... i didn't have a stove so i had to make every thing in the microwave. Usually when heating water or soup i'd use those dixie containers with the flap you could open to let steam come out hte hole in the top but could be clsoed for fridge storage and were cheap enough to dump if they got too old. heh...

now i have a kettle for my stove so if i want a hot drink i use that, but i still use the microwave alot. You jsut have to be carefull when handeling any hot food.

Bunnyy 10-23-2007 02:11 PM


I hate heating milk with the microwave >o<''
Keep forgetting to keep an eye it and then when I open the door of the micowave,
the mug is empty but there`s milk everywhere ... :'D

Komitadjie 10-23-2007 02:12 PM

Holy OW, Nissa.

I think the reason you are getting such a strong "This is rather ridiculous" response, Memarcus, is because of the rather impressive "The World is Ending" heading you have on it, not because of the content as much.

Nissa 10-23-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Komitadjie
Holy OW, Nissa.

I think the reason you are getting such a strong "This is rather ridiculous" response, Memarcus, is because of the rather impressive "The World is Ending" heading you have on it, not because of the content as much.

Indeed, but that was probably to much information. :o

But yeah, anything that heats stuff up has burning potential. A microwave is safer then a stove and a stove is safer then an oven. When being out in the sun can cause first degree burns one shouldn't be to surprised that a microwave has a little risk.

Komitadjie 10-23-2007 02:27 PM

Heh, I'd never thought of it that way before. I've managed to spill various hot things on myself in the lab, but that's why I wear a lab coat. Never managed to burn myself that way yet.

At least hot water cools relatively rapidly, and does not adhere like oils do.

Nissa 10-23-2007 02:46 PM

Ever since that incident I've had the worst luck. I love to cook, but end up burning myself pretty badly around once a year. The oven is what usually does it. I have quite a few scars on my hands from it. The worst a microwave has ever done was to scald me a bit.

Snarry 10-23-2007 02:49 PM

Very interesting...I'll keep that in mind...even though the last time I did put soup in the microwave it did explode, but I didn't burn myself. :D

Sonata 10-23-2007 03:01 PM

We often heat liquids like milk and soup in our microwave, but nothing like that ever happened.

I did got burned though, but that was because I wasn't being careful while cooking. Now I have some scars on my chest which don't look really pretty. There are some on my left arm too. ^______^;;

But thank you for warning us, I'll think twice now before putting something unusual in the microwave!

Some Random Randomness 10-23-2007 03:10 PM

What's the point of a microwave then? O.o

And I just, and I mean just put cold soup in the microwave to warm it up. I'm seriously sitting here eating it right now.

Heiyuu 10-23-2007 03:27 PM

Personally, I use the microwave for all my tea needs. I've never had issues with it. It's like the Caution, this may be hot labels not on McDonald's coffee. I'm thinking to myself, duh.

ai na tenshi 10-23-2007 03:46 PM

My sister pur soup in the microwave and it didnt explode. She know better to not put the setting high and let it sit in the microwave before going in and touch it. -.-


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