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We are Taught to hate ourselves by society
Yes we are and since we were born.
How? well... if you pay close attention, everything around us is sending us messages about how little we are worth and how wrong is our body, house, thoughts, everything is a trick for us to be high consumers. A lot of advertisements use psychology on how to make people feel a loser if they dont buy the product. You are always expected to be better, you are never enough on how you normally are. There is a phrase that says " there will always be someone richer and thiner" and it is so true, we are never enough, and we are taught that way since the beginning. Believe me, not even "perfect" people feel they are 100% worthy, they feel sad inside because they arent or they dont have certain thing... Societies are destroying young's minds with this s....! And I think families sometimes do not realize on how much they need to protect kids about this. Nobody is perfect, but since when being perfect has become the objective of ourlives? i mean it is ok to want to be fit and healthy but i think it is even better to be spiritually healthy and to be intelectual over beautiful. Think about this...if you spend all your life "wanting to be..." you never are...and you die...and all that body and material posessions die and disappear...and you have nothing...instead if you do something spiritually or intelectually worthy it will remain in time. Dont let them say you are not worthy, you are lovely as you are, you dont need anything to BE , you already ARE ... See the examples around, even rich and famous people are not happy Having and Being... I hope all of you got the point. |
Sorry to be against what you're saying, but I am.
I don't think advertisements make us do anything, they can influence us, but we have control over our actions. This whole media is to blame thing is just a scapegoat so we won't look stupid. |
I'm glad I'm a poor student.
I quite like myself :D Sure I have my faults, everyone does. ...apart from George Clooney :D But I'm really quite content being me. |
Well the media doesn't really MAKE us do anything. Yes they play a big part in making us look ugly or feel certain but only you can truly decide to follow it or not. If you believe these subliminal message then you're exact kind of fool the media makes fun of. Not to offend anyone, but that's how it works. They make you feel dumb and go do exactly what they want you to do and the media is happy for making you look dumb. :/
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I agree. A particular ad comes to mind.
-cough- all ax ads -cough- Where if you wear ax amillion sexy females will be all over you. If you don't...you're a loser. edit- and also seeing all the skinny females on tv and hearing from every guy that porn stars are hot and so are skinny chicks. I haven't eatten in a week. Go me. And in a weird light. I'm proud of myself. |
Hmm...well I'm a very independent person and no body tells me what to do, say or think...I am outgoing and I do what I want, and when I want to do it.
I don't mean to sound snotty when I say that but I have to agree with Sir.Spoon I don't really think advertisements make us do anything. |
We decided we had enough of cable television when our son was about 3 years old. He cried about it for about a week (and this was with a 1-2 hour time limit on it when we did have it!) and then forgot about it. His outlook changed drastically. The toys he had were all of a sudden good enough, he developed quite an imagination, and best of all, he stopped being influenced by the people on television. While us adults know what is going on (once our eyes are opened anyways), a kid really doesn't. There was this fake commercial that was pretending to sell gravy. Had all kinds of happy energetic kids in it telling you how awesome gravy was. My son wanted that gravy so bad he put it on his Christmas list. That was my breaking point. I never realized how bad it was until then.
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I don't think we are taught to hate ourselves persay (we actually had this conversation in my NAS class this morning) but we are taught to commoditize everything including ourselves. This is not natural so we become disenchanted with ourselves. It's also why we can abuse other people and animals because we see them as things and not as living creatures
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Its ok guys this is just opinion and frankly I am happy to hear some people do not surrender , although I think mayority of people do even though they dont realize about it because this comes since you are born.
It's sad, yet true. And it's reducing many peoples self-esteem levels to extremely low states, which causes depression and the like. It's really important to be brought up in a good environment. I find that I have good self-esteem because I was never a victim of bullying or anything of the sort. While I have some other friends who are amazing the way they are, but who were victims of such things, and have extremely low self-esteem now. I think the medias influence is a huge portion of our lives, weather we want it to be or not, which is why many people need to focus on getting a head up on their shoulders and learning how to walk with said head up high, because you're more harsh with yourself then others are towards you. |
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I always thought it was my ex boyfriend that made me feel like that :S
I bet it was him anyways, cuz i think girls with no muscle is disgusting and I could care less if I wasnt as skinny as them. If you are too skinny, no matter how pretty your face is, your ugly >_> BUT THATS MY OPINION. So don't get mad. |
Yeah, I noticed that...
Like, I had been going through magazines, looking for words that described my boyfriend to make this collage (he's into mushy stuff like that, unlike most guys) And once I almost done, I looked at it, and realized I had found very few words that described personality. Most of them were asthetic-related. "Cute" "hot" "sexy" "kissable", etc. Alot were from ads. And seeing that made me realize how much ads and magazines focus on telling you how to look more like "this", or promising to make you more "that". I mean, mostly when you consider the context the words were cut from. Ads promising this product will make you more sexy, or how to get cute hair, etc. etc. etc. But yes, I do agree. The media and society does constantly but subtly hint that you're not quite good enough. |
The media puts ideas in your head and all, but its your decision to go with them or not. So pretty much I agree with Sir.Spoon.
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Hate is human nature.
But I don't agree that our society teaches us to hate ourselves. See ourselves as imperfect? See ourselves as too fat, skinny, tall, short? Yea, but that's not enough to cause hate. Hate is a strong word. The media may make portrayals of 'perfection' so that we would find ourselves in need to buy their product to become 'perfect' but it is not telling us to 'hate' ourselves. |
I disagree.
It's your decision to decide what's pretty, and what's the norm. But if you decide based on people in movies and such, you're going to dislike what you are like. You can't program someone to hate themselves. Only influence it a bit. |
i think that television has a lot to do with the way young people look at them selfs and the way they look at others.
Im not saying that it's the only reason why people don't like the way they look or why they dont accept them selfs but i do believe that if people weren't so judgmental on t.v. shows or in movies. that maybe people in real life wouldnt be so harsh. i personally can say that the media does effect me somewhat in the way i view my self. for the simple reason that im an actress. And to be honest, if you go on a casting call for the lead roll of a new movie/show they don't really look for girls that are over weight or maybe not that pretty. it's really sad and horrible to think about, but it's true. i know there are movies/shows that have people whom are not AMAZINGLY beautiful staring on them. and to me those are the shows people should be watching. sadly there are only a few of those shows. i do agree with the people who said that it's your choice to decided what you let effect your life. i mean i guess i do let all this effect me because thats reality for me, at least. im not saying that i will completely change who i am just to "fit in" or be apart of the "norm" because i dont and i have never done that nor will i ever. |
I don't think the media has the power to take over or coherent thoughts.
What the media can do is distract us from thinking about what actually matters. One of entertainment's greatest achievements, since the beginning of time, is convincing us that bullshit is serious business. Edit: And as for society in general - yeah. societies function with a very constraining and narrow-minded dogma to maintain structure and order. They give very limited options as to what the average human can actually do with their lives. |
Mmmmmmm...yes.
I think that's my best answer for now. Well, I'll try to elaborate... The media presents an image and does it's damndest to convince the consumer that this image is in some twisted way better than the material mean. The trippy part is that it freaking works on some people. But only those who haven't been shown a different light. Drastically put, they haven't been enlightened. All they see is television and the television's ideas of how the world should be, look, act, eat, drive...because no one has ever taught them the difference. That's how I look at it. Me? I'd like to be a little skinnier just because I know the extra 15 pounds isn't good for my heart, especially with my family history. Not because a stick figure with breasts and puffy lips influenced me...but I think that's because my parents tried very, very hard to prove to us know-it-all kids that we are good, fine people because we are what we are and are not afraid to be different. :) That's all. The allegory of the Cave by Plato makes an excellent supplementary read to my argument, I think. It's also fun to twiddle around in one's mind. I highly recommend it. |
I agree with you. The media talks about losing weight constantly...I saw this chick who looked like she didn't need to lose weight, and she went on _____ diet and now is a size 2! :roll: She didn't need to lose weight, she was average in weight, that's what it seemed to me. Then their is the whole cheerleader thing. Do you see any not skinny or not ugly famous football player cheerleaders? Not really. Maybe ugly, but not average or over weight.
I think families influence this too. If the parent dislikes how they look, the child will sub-consciously do the same thing. I once babysat these three kids, one of them was this really tiny five year old girl...Who thought she was fat. I mean how the heck does a child think that?! I know her parents aren't telling her that, but her mom might be telling herself that. You never see unattractive or overweight guys being bachlor of the year. You rarely ever see a teenager on tv that is over weight, or nerdy..Who's the main character. I don't just blame society though. There are many factors, some I stated above. |
Yeah ... And the definition of "pretty" has changed big time . I hear girls commenting about people about how fat and ugly they are when they`re perfectly fine . It`s like their image of "pretty" is ... I dunno, what they see in magazines . But like . HELLO . Newsflash, photoshop much ?? Yeah . x'DDD |
I do think the media has alot to do with what we think is pretty. Weither you like it or not, you get use to something that is shoved in your face day after day.
An example of this would be how some guys can't get off to a normal girls vagina. And how most of them like when girls wax or shave down there. Its because when you open a pr0n magazine all you see is shaved vaginas. But what you don't know is they're all photocropped. Ha, go figure. I've heard they did a study and about 2-5% of males that commonly look at pr0n can't get off to an average vagina cause its imperfect. Well...they all are, exept when you go a photoshop some of them... You like what you're use to..and if you're use to skinny bitches everywhere, you want to be one. |
Yeah...I think I disagree as well because your post kind of feels like you're belittling the people you're trying to convince are worth something. Some people aren't exactly that gullible to believe everything they see on tv or in ads. Personally I put MUTE on when commercials start to role because unless they're previewing a movie I want to see I don't give a flying crap what they say. Those skinny little super models can prance up and down the runway all they want but I know that I'm fine the way I am. I'd rather have some tone and muscle in my arms and legs rather than being a stick figure. ><;
Yes the media is obsessed with weight and trying to sell products to reduce that weight or suck it off but I think the environment the person grew up in defines how easily influenced they are. I know I'm not the prettiest person on earth but I know I'm not ugly, I know I'm not worthless, and I'm too strong headed to be convinced otherwise. So the media and society can try all they want to sway the way I think but I can tell you they've already lost. And I know a lot more people who feel the same way I do. I know what real beauty is and it's no one else's business to convince me otherwise. Don't belittle people by telling them they care about what others think before knowing who they are and how they handle day to day attacks on self esteem by the media. As far as I'm concerned my parents are the ones who shaped me and my thinking, not some box with light and sound coming from it. |
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There is no perfection. It's abstract. Media controls people who are susceptible to it. D: It's people like you who keep repeating the put downs that they still exist. It's like quoting the person who quoted the first post to tell them they can't quote the first post. DD: It just doesn't work... Advertising only does that because they know that it works. D: People who feel not pretty will buy make up to cover the "ugly". So they'll show beautiful people to make it seem like that's how you'll look. It's pretty cruel, but they target people with low self esteem this way. I guess, you're wrong and you're right. You're right in how it works, but you're wrong in it's effects I guess. It doesn't MAKE you feel that way, it's just the people who have low self esteem. |
Yes the media can teach us things and influence us, but it doesn't have control over us. We are the ones responsible for our actions and how we look at ourselves and other things. We are the ones in control not the media. So we are the ones to blame not the media. If we stop letting the media influence us as much then the way the media is will change.
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I really hate the fact that if your skinny you can get almost anything you want and then the barbie doll is skinny and there no normal barbie or any doll in that matter. >> Not everone is a size 00-2
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