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Internal_Dragon 11-29-2007 03:57 AM

Oh, I do a LOT of stereotyping.

But not the typical "Goth", "Emo", "Prep, "Scenester", etc stuff.

My labels for people tend to be a bit more harsh, yet somewhat honest.

They also contain many four letter words so I won't give a preview.

Caroline 11-29-2007 04:37 PM

  • There is almost always some truth in labels. They form naturally and are rather essential. It's a lot easier to call something "preppy" than to call it "that one style with the expensive clothes that is basic and trendy."

neur0mancer 11-29-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Caroline
  • There is almost always some truth in labels. They form naturally and are rather essential. It's a lot easier to call something "preppy" than to call it "that one style with the expensive clothes that is basic and trendy."

:nods:

If there werent any truth, labels/steriotypes wouldn't make ANY sense at all.

You know why a joke about a Jew being a policeman isn't funny?
because it doesn't make much sense.
A joke about a Jew and accounting, though...

Wynna 11-29-2007 05:23 PM

I don't think I am a stereotype.

However, yesterday during my improv practice, we were acting out our life structure, and we got the ask for: that you are an outcast. and from that we derived that a kid became a outcast because he "came out" to his friends.

The scene was absolutely perfect, but then afterwards one of our coaches, said "I really wanted to see some gay references."

And I'm like "WHAT!", because if I was gay I think that I would act completely the same except for the fact that I like guys. So I didn't want to play the expected stereotype, I was just acting as how I think I would be if I was gay.

So in a answer to this discussion, no I don't label people, and I think it's wrong. We all fit under one label, and that label is that we are all human.

Spatterdash 11-29-2007 06:04 PM

That kind of nonsense fades out pretty quick once you get out of secondary school.

Labelling is a byproduct of a crisis common to adolescents - the desire to make yourself different from the crowd, and the desire to fit in with your peers.
Many teenagers reconcile the conflicting desires by adopting a subculture. That way they're unlike their parents, but like a select group of friends. Of course, it's important for them to assert their individuality, so they pretend that they're truly unique and it's just everyone else that follows the herd.
Of course, those that really are different from everybody else get picked on for their troubles, as being genuinely odd isn't cool, it's often considered either pathetic or creepy.

Luckily, once people finish maturing and get out into the wide world, this kind of thing becomes much less of a concern since you're too busy concentrating on things like financial concerns.
There's still recognisable social groups, but it's no longer such a big deal since you're not all forced to cohabit in such a small space, and you're no longer trying to assert your growing independence by rebelling against your parents, because you are actually independent.

</pop psychology>

tl;dr version: Oh, you'll grow out of it.

ElendarSilvermoon 11-29-2007 07:55 PM

Labeling is a part of life. It sucks, but it's human nature to put everything in it's own little cubbyhole. Even the sloppiest and grungiest of us all are neat freaks, and if we can't organize it we automatically label it as "defective" or "weird" or -insertmentaldisorderhere-

I also find it funny that when it comes down to labeling, the same people who bitch and moan about people labeling them are also quick to put labels on others as well.

woopdidoodoo 11-29-2007 08:50 PM

well this is a little hypocritical coz you are labelling us judgemental people as wrong and judgemental so who are you to call us that? It does suck but us humans need to recognise something and as such we call it a name and if you don't like it then I s'pose we just kind of have to lump it as it isn't going to go away any time soon is it?

aids 11-29-2007 09:01 PM

There will always be a situation where you label someone. Some people want to be labeled, other people couldnt really care either way. I am one of those couldn't really care either way types.

Ariel 11-30-2007 12:07 AM

If people are considered equal, then why do so many people hate furries, preps, scene kids, and emos?
It's amusing how many people claim that they think labeling is wrong and that they are open minded, but they are quick to do it when confronted or see something they don't like.

[L]ove[H]ate 11-30-2007 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel
If people are considered equal, then why do so many people hate furries, preps, scene kids, and emos?
It's amusing how many people claim that they think labeling is wrong and that they are open minded, but they are quick to do it when confronted or see something they don't like.

I don't confront it...people aren't equal, we are all different, but it doesn't mean people have to label people. Maybe you or I don't want someone to call us "emo" or "preppies." I don't like me called that at all. I am who I am and I am Nicole, not "emo" or "goth" or anything else.

Ariel 11-30-2007 12:58 AM

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ove[H]ate]
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Originally Posted by Ariel
If people are considered equal, then why do so many people hate furries, preps, scene kids, and emos?
It's amusing how many people claim that they think labeling is wrong and that they are open minded, but they are quick to do it when confronted or see something they don't like.

I don't confront it...people aren't equal, we are all different, but it doesn't mean people have to label people. Maybe you or I don't want someone to call us "emo" or "preppies." I don't like me called that at all. I am who I am and I am Nicole, not "emo" or "goth" or anything else.

Really?
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Originally Posted by [L
ove[H]ate]Personally, I think labeling people is very judgemental and VERY WRONG! I think that people are equal.


[L]ove[H]ate 11-30-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel
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Originally Posted by [L
ove[H]ate]
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Originally Posted by Ariel
If people are considered equal, then why do so many people hate furries, preps, scene kids, and emos?
It's amusing how many people claim that they think labeling is wrong and that they are open minded, but they are quick to do it when confronted or see something they don't like.

I don't confront it...people aren't equal, we are all different, but it doesn't mean people have to label people. Maybe you or I don't want someone to call us "emo" or "preppies." I don't like me called that at all. I am who I am and I am Nicole, not "emo" or "goth" or anything else.

Really?
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Originally Posted by [L
ove[H]ate]Personally, I think labeling people is very judgemental and VERY WRONG! I think that people are equal.


What I meant is people are equal in human ways, like for example, we all have hair, we all have freedom (at least in the US), etc. What I meant equal to my quote is that we aren't the same things, we make ourselves different by being ourselves.

Sirec 11-30-2007 02:07 PM

If I fit the stereotype people give me, I'd be a psycho serial killer who shot up the school. So...no, I don't fit the stereotype for me.

Kalium 11-30-2007 03:23 PM

I have had my fair share of that at school. There were two clear factions in my class, the goths and the preps. And a few people who were sluts and jerks... And I was the odd one who got bullied around. It may sound trivial to many of you, but even though I graduated from Junior High many years ago, I still see people who bullied me in my nightmares (It dosen't happen so often that like in a psychosis, fortunately). Even today, I'd strangle them if I met them. And once I actually did that. I saw one of my tormentors last summer selling jewelry in a touristic hot spot. And I did try to throttle him, I kid you not!

Runihura 11-30-2007 05:10 PM

I label some but overall not.
I know I'm labeled. People think i'm goth. they couldn't be mroe wrong, I'm otaku. How many goths do you see skipping down the halls singing Garden from RahXephon? Eh...not many << >>
As far as being a stereotypical otaku, hecks yeah i am. I'm running around digging my face into anime and being so obvious, and completely hyperactive about it. The type of anime fan that gives us a bad rep, but I'm not hiding it.
I don't care for it, though. Because I know that out of over 30 people in my club, only a couple of us act like this. And I'm not goth, so that label being put on me is just silly.
And then people are expected to act a certain way, and sometimes they do, and that's not cool.


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