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Atreyu 11-28-2007 03:40 PM


I have attempted being vegetarian a few times in the past few years since 9th grade. I'm in 12th grade now. But due to the fact that most of my family and friendsd are meat eaters, I have no real support in being vegetarian.

So, I figured I will have to accept my ways until I live on my own, and then I can decide whether or not I want to be vegetarian, or continue eating meat.

Meat DOES taste good, and the blood excites me, but after the torture I've seen. It makes me sick to eat animals, really. But when I do eat them, I try and ignore that fact. :/

But I have a guilty conscious.

Spatterdash 11-28-2007 07:43 PM

I eat meat.
But I'm a defender of vegetarians and it really gets on my nerves when people are bitchy about them. Nobody gets annoyed about, say, people who don't like coleslaw, or cola, and they don't lark about trying to slip coleslaw into the sandwiches of a coleslaw-hater. Yet there's a certain kind of person who thinks that there's nothing more funny than making a vegetarian eat meat, or taunting them about the things they don't eat.
Really gets on my nerves. Let people eat what they want, dammit.

And yeah, I'm all for animal welfare. The way farm animals are treated in intensive farming is disgusting - and produces low-quality, awful-tasting meat, too. Better to have really good meat once a week than crappy cheap meat every day.

Immortaleyes 11-28-2007 07:48 PM

I'm an eatatarian. :) I'll eat mostly anything.
I'm this way because of habit and upbringing, and the fact that I like to eat meat. But if I had to, I could become a vegetarian..more so to gain a healthier and better lifestyle than I have now.
I've heard that a lot of vegetarians or "Raw food" people have less problems with sluggishness, ADD, sickness and depression. Maybe meat isn't such a good thing to eat after all.
I guess that's something I should look into.

` Plastic Rainbows 11-28-2007 08:22 PM

I eat meat and sometimes I wish I didn't. I do kinda feel bad for the poor thing.
At lest I don't eat it all the time so I guess it evens out a bit.

aids 11-28-2007 08:28 PM

I tried it out for about a year or so, but i couldnt give up bacon in the end.

Aurora 11-29-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spatterdash
I eat meat.
But I'm a defender of vegetarians and it really gets on my nerves when people are bitchy about them. Nobody gets annoyed about, say, people who don't like coleslaw, or cola, and they don't lark about trying to slip coleslaw into the sandwiches of a coleslaw-hater. Yet there's a certain kind of person who thinks that there's nothing more funny than making a vegetarian eat meat, or taunting them about the things they don't eat.
Really gets on my nerves. Let people eat what they want, dammit.

And yeah, I'm all for animal welfare. The way farm animals are treated in intensive farming is disgusting - and produces low-quality, awful-tasting meat, too. Better to have really good meat once a week than crappy cheap meat every day.

xD
Your the first person i've ever seen who stands up for vegetarians. xD Yay!

`F o a m 11-29-2007 12:55 PM

  • I don't understand vegetarians... They're still eating something that was once living, it just doesn't have a cute face on it. o.o

    I R MEAT EATER. D:

Aurora 11-29-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by `F o a m
  • I don't understand vegetarians... They're still eating something that was once living, it just doesn't have a cute face on it. o.o

    I R MEAT EATER. D:

Animals are different then plants. They (animals) have souls and feelings. Plants do not because they have no heart or feelings..And well..most vegetarians just don't like to eat animals cause it makes them feel bad or other reasons. Sometimes people become vegetarians for health reasons to. :3
<333

Caroline 11-29-2007 04:26 PM

  • I am a vegetarian because I don't feel that I have the right to eat innocent animals, and I oppose the corporate meat industry.

Wynna 11-29-2007 04:56 PM

I do eat meat. However, my brother is a vegetarian. I'm not like one of those people who just love the taste of meat, I don't love the taste of meat, I just eat it, just like I eat my fruits and vegetables, and dairy products.

b e y o n d 11-29-2007 05:02 PM

  • I tried to become a vegetarian more than once. Unfortunately, I don't like most vegetables in any way that I know how to cook them. ^u^;; Each time I tried I wasn't getting enough iron in my diet and I became anaemic. I tried taking iron supplements prescribed by my doctor, but they didn't work - gave me a stomach ache every day and really messed with my digestive system in general to the point where I'd feel ill whenever I ate (even if they did help my blood out). So, I decided to eat meat again..

    I've never eaten very much meat, though - I don't enjoy knowing that I'm eating an animal. I can't eat duck at all. X3 I only really eat a small amount of beef, mainly chicken, occasionally fish. I have meat 2, maybe 3 times a week. I prefer to have foods like pasta, rice or potatoes as the main part of my meal with a small amount of meat.

Kyoko Otonashi 11-29-2007 05:05 PM

For me, if you don't eat it because you don't like meat or it's for a religious purpose, i can understand.

But it's the people who do it because "it are mean to kill animals" annoy me. They hold that stance because they CAN. period. People are picky with food when they are rich. Go to a third world country and you won't see vegetarians like that. Eat your freaking food, people. We have carnivorous teeth for a reason. Animals need predators. Go tell a lion to quit eating meat.

Spatterdash 11-29-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoko Otonashi
For me, if you don't eat it because you don't like meat or it's for a religious purpose, i can understand.

But it's the people who do it because "it are mean to kill animals" annoy me. They hold that stance because they CAN. period. People are picky with food when they are rich. Go to a third world country and you won't see vegetarians like that. Eat your freaking food, people. We have carnivorous teeth for a reason. Animals need predators. Go tell a lion to quit eating meat.

Mmm, most people in the third world live largely on vegetable products. It's cheaper and more efficient to produce. Raising animals for meat uses up vastly more resources than growing grain and vegetables.

As for the appeal to nature, I can refute this on several counts:
1. We're omnivores. Our digestive systems can handle both meat and vegetables. We're not like cats, who can only thrive on an all-meat diet, for example.
2. Hunting is natural, but farming isn't. Predators often eat very rarely since animals get away so often, and they eat wild animals that have led ordinary, free lives. Whereas humans often eat meat daily, which has been raised in intensive, cramped conditions, more often than not filled with hormones and antibiotics to make it grow larger and faster than normal, which is nothing like an animal's life in the wild.
3. "It's natural" or "it's not natural" is a flawed argument anyway. If we only did what was natural, we wouldn't wear clothes, attend schools, or have the internet. Humans are intelligent and thus can transcend nature.

I'm not remotely sentimental about animals, and I don't think it's wrong to eat them, but I don't know why people who dislike meat for welfare reasons enrage so many other people. It's as if car drivers tooted their horns at me and threw stuff out of the window every time I went past on a bicycle because I'd rather avoid driving something polluting - what business is it of theirs?
Preachiness is always annoying, but most vegetarians I've met aren't remotely preachy.

Enniel 11-29-2007 07:05 PM

I am a lacto-ovo pescatarian ^^ a vegetarian that still eats fish eggs and milk <3

C 11-29-2007 07:07 PM

I'm not a vegetarian, but I certainly ain't no carnivore. I mainly eat vegetables. The only meat I can eat is chicken, simply because I've had it since I was a child and have grown to adore it, it has a pretty good flavor. But only the inside of the legs. Everything else is yucky. I jus tcan't bring any other meat to my mouth, for some reason. It makes me disgusted, it jus tseems so gross. heh

woopdidoodoo 11-29-2007 08:14 PM

I am not vegetarian because I love eating my meat, I think its yummy and tasty and I believe that we do need to eat it. I know that we can get away with not eating it but I do think we are healthier for eating meat no matter how it came onto our plates. I don't care if someone is a vegetarian or not just as long as they don't try to force me to be one with them

Spatterdash 11-29-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by woopdidoodoo
I do think we are healthier for eating meat no matter how it came onto our plates.

What, even meat that's full of parasites or botulism?

...Okay, that was me being picky for the sake of being picky. I enjoy being pedantic rather too much.
It certainly is easier to get all of one's nutrients by eating a mix of meat and vegetables. It's not impossible to have a good balanced diet without meat, but it's more difficult. I know one of my vegetarian friends had occasional bouts of anaemia, though that might've been because she tended to eat pasta and pizza more than she ate actual fresh vegetables.

Divine_lil_brat 11-29-2007 08:24 PM

I like meat XD I don't know if I could go without eating meat, I like it to much. Veggies are good but not all the time.

Phantasmagoria 11-29-2007 08:44 PM

I would love to be a vegetarian, unfortunately I am so picky I dont like any vegetables and a few fruits I can stand. I hate it, but I cant control my taste buds. ^^'
I sometimes think that if I wasnt picky I would be all out vegan.

speedvolt 11-30-2007 01:59 AM

Im not a vegetarian, I am an animal lover but to love the animal your have to be the animal, eating meat is what animals do!

MiserableDisease 11-30-2007 02:00 AM

I am not vegetarian...it doesn't bother me to eat meat.

Eroy 11-30-2007 05:05 PM

I was a vegetarian for three to four years in high school and college. I quit because I wanted to eat turkey on Thanksgiving and a hot dog at a baseball game. xP

I think I became a vegetarian because it was easy for me since a lot of my friends were vegetarians. I had other, more political, reasons as well but no need to go into all of that.

I still eat vegetarian meals fairly often but I do love my meat! I try to stick to poultry and fish for the most part but every now and then I've just got to have a good burger or something. I still like tofu and all that vegetarian stuff as well though.

All in all I think being a vegetarian for that short time greatly increased my knowledge of spices and foods I wouldn't have eaten as a omnivore. I suggest everyone give it a try for a year or so. It's a very good experience.

Ebil 11-30-2007 05:12 PM

I am not a vegetarian.
I'll pretty much eat anything apart from things I've met and liked.
So I try my best to avoid eating Dogs, Fish and Humans. Other than that I don't really see a reason not to eat any other species, providing it's edible.
I'm a fairly fussy eater when it comes to vegetarian food, so I'd most probably starve if I didn't eat meat.
I don't eat salads, I avoid most vegetables like that plague and I only like a very few kinds of fruit. Quorn is downright nasty. Tofu tastes foul to me... I could go on, but I'll spare you xD

Runihura 11-30-2007 05:22 PM

I'm most definately not a vegetarian. when my veggie friends come over they have to bring their own food due to a lack of not meat-based products at my house.
I lvie off of meat, and honestl I'm craving ribs right now.
But I've nothin against vegetarians, as long as they don't push their agenda on me.
I'll eat meat, but I may disagree with the way animals are treated.

Kyoko Otonashi 11-30-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spatterdash
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Originally Posted by Kyoko Otonashi
For me, if you don't eat it because you don't like meat or it's for a religious purpose, i can understand.

But it's the people who do it because "it are mean to kill animals" annoy me. They hold that stance because they CAN. period. People are picky with food when they are rich. Go to a third world country and you won't see vegetarians like that. Eat your freaking food, people. We have carnivorous teeth for a reason. Animals need predators. Go tell a lion to quit eating meat.

Mmm, most people in the third world live largely on vegetable products. It's cheaper and more efficient to produce. Raising animals for meat uses up vastly more resources than growing grain and vegetables.

As for the appeal to nature, I can refute this on several counts:
1. We're omnivores. Our digestive systems can handle both meat and vegetables. We're not like cats, who can only thrive on an all-meat diet, for example.
2. Hunting is natural, but farming isn't. Predators often eat very rarely since animals get away so often, and they eat wild animals that have led ordinary, free lives. Whereas humans often eat meat daily, which has been raised in intensive, cramped conditions, more often than not filled with hormones and antibiotics to make it grow larger and faster than normal, which is nothing like an animal's life in the wild.
3. "It's natural" or "it's not natural" is a flawed argument anyway. If we only did what was natural, we wouldn't wear clothes, attend schools, or have the internet. Humans are intelligent and thus can transcend nature.

I'm not remotely sentimental about animals, and I don't think it's wrong to eat them, but I don't know why people who dislike meat for welfare reasons enrage so many other people. It's as if car drivers tooted their horns at me and threw stuff out of the window every time I went past on a bicycle because I'd rather avoid driving something polluting - what business is it of theirs?
Preachiness is always annoying, but most vegetarians I've met aren't remotely preachy.

In most third worlds yes they eat vegetables. What i'm saying is that if you went over to a starving child in africa and handed him a hamburger, there's an extremely slim-to-none chance that he'd say no.

Yes, our stomach's are made to digest meat and plants. It is also more recommended to eat meat to stay healthy than to do an all vegetarian diet. To be able to get the same amount of proteins and nutrients from nuts and tofu that you get from meat you would have to eat a crap ton more.

Furthermore, for those that are all "oh poor animals", i'm pretty sure that rabbit had feelings that got eaten by that wolf. It's still animal's dying for food, even if it's not a human eating it. Predation is natural and it HAS to happen. Why? How many of you vegeterians want you house smelling like cow and chicken shit because we all stopped eating meat and now there's not enough predation going on to keep up with the reproductive rates of chickens and cows? Predation keeps resources and populations in check. Human's only problem is that we have no real predators. I don't particularly want to die, but honestly, if human's had just as many predators as like...every other animal on the earth, places like China wouldn't have to have a child tax.

Yes, if it weren't for the fact that cannibalism is illegal, i would vote cannibalism to solve all the world's major problems: Over population, resource competition, world hunger.

I think a better approach to the united states slaughtering all over the place and such would be more human slaughter houses, and controlling meat waste. We waste a LOT of meat here. If you're actually going to use it for a good reason, i see it as no problem.


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