I don't think it's really fair. Being gay isn't something you can control, like smoking; it isn't just a bad habit.

Of course, I can't really say so, but from pure speculation about romance and affections, it's not really nice to tax love...it's not like smoking, or driving for that matter, which I consider bad habits.

Taxes? Personally, maybe I'm a bit too idealist and liberal, but I disagree harming a minority group so that the majority can benefit on it. I'd totally pay an extra 2% property tax if I could still sustain myself and allow others to enjoy love. I mean, I'd rather give more and have a clear conscience...or maybe I think too much about these matters.

Besides, gays are a minority group. Another few marriages won't hurt the economy...TOO much, at least. I'm not saying that they're insignificant as a minority because they do deserve to display their love to others, but still...I'd rather pay more.

Then again, I don't have to pay taxes now, so my opinion might change later. Of course, if I did have the money to afford that little bit more, I would pay it.

Gay people have the exact same rights as a straight person so why should two people that love each other not be allowd to marry just becasue they are both male/female

I think that they should be allowd to marry :)

As Bartuc mentioned, it will create a slippery slope into bestiality.

So I say yes, because I want to find my self a duck, and legally do something awful.
Of course this is sarcastic.

I say yes to gay marriage. I'm not going to explain my opinion further, because it's my opinion. Not everyone is going to agree, and people are usually too bullheaded to change opinions. So what's the point in arguing for your opinion if no one is going to budge? Isn't that just spam? The reiteration of your point continuously?

I'm all for gay marriage. C:
I know that one of the major points that people argue against it with is that apparently (I have no idea) it gives support in the Bible that gay relationships are bad or against God's wish. Well, it is also stated that God loves all creatures, and gay people are creatures, too. C:

wandering
 

No gay men and women should not marry. I understand the need for those couples be able to have insurance, tax breaks, etc but not marriage. I wont deny them some type of union. But marry is specified in the Bible as a union between man and woman, mainly for the purpose of procreation. Gay couples cant procreate. Yes they can do artificial insemination, adoption, use someone of the opposite sex but this is not procreation from their union. Give them something else. Let marriage stay as it was meant to. Marriage is taught in the bible or other holy works. None of them condone gay marriages. If you are not living by the mandates of those holy books then why do you want marriage? Unions, partnerships Ill give them that but not marriage. By the way, I have nothing against gay people and some of my best friends are gay.

Wandering Echo:
Firstly, what the Bible says is irrelevant. Marriage is not an exclusively Christian institution. Do you think that Muslims and Atheists people shouldn't be allowed to marry either?

Secondly, plenty of heterosexual couples can't procreate either. I have a pair of friends (who incidentally are both extremely religious) who can't have children because they are genetically incompatible. Does that make their marriage invalid?

And plenty of religions out there do condone gay marriage, especially as Jesus Christ himself never condemned homosexuality. Why can't homosexual couples get married in those churches?

In the Bible, it is only in the Old Testament that homosexuality is condemned... and the Old Testament also condemns eating shellfish, cutting the sides of your hair and wearing wool and linen together. So, by your reasoning, anyone that cuts their hair, eats sea food or has ever worn a wool cardigan over a linen dress should not be allowed to marry.
The list of people who are allowed to marry is getting very short... Vera Wang won't be happy.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Unions.

I don't understand what is so wrong with unions. Okay, so non-christian heterosexual couples can get married, and now Christians want to claim marriage for themselves from a religious point of view.

But there isn't necessarily anything wrong with that. Okay, they're a bit hypocritical, but hey, if they don't have a problem with the LGBT community getting unions, should I be upset? They then don't have a problem with me getting equal rights, they just feel the name of marriage should stay "sacred" for man & woman.

It's the people who don't want the LGBT community to even get equal rights that I have a problem. That speaks for itself, they don't want to give equal rights to humans. Supremecy.

wandering
 

I beg to differ with the individual who quotes what a marriage as defined in the Constitution. It is not mentioned in the United States Constitution at all. Though there are many debates on whether it is constitutional or not.. It is not a constitutional right to get married. Marriage is defined by religion. And in all religions as between a man and woman. As I said before I am all for defining some type of partnership but not marriage. Since I dont know personally of any religion that condones same sex unions. If I am wrong please let me know where I can find information that does condone it religiously.

wandering echo: Marriage is not defined by religion. I am not religious, and my marriage ceremony was completely devoid of religion in every way. Is my marriage only valid because me atheist husband and I happen to be of the opposite sex?

And as for religions that accept homosexuality, and will perform same sex marriage ceremonies, to name just a few:
-Conservative Jewish order
-Unitarian Universalist
-Episcopal
-Lutheran
-Unity Church
-Religious Society of Friends
-Reformed Judaism
-The vast majority of Buddhism

And those are just a few of the mainstream ones. There are many more.

I'll say no and yes. No because the statistics for gay couples staying together and an overall healthy relationship are very low, higher than that of a heterosexual couple. There's more alcoholism and domestic violence and such. I'm not saying every gay couple has these problems, but you can't really argue the facts. (Just throwing this in there, but I have gay (and bi) friends whose lives seem filled with so much more angst....
And yes because, you know, it's not really my business if gay people want to get married or have problems.

Please, show us the facts.

I've heard otherwise. That domestic violence and alcoholism is lower, considering a great deal of domestic violence comes from men thinking they can hit the weaker sex around. The chance of domestic violence goes down when the other has a chance to hit back.

And the angst of gay and bis differs no more than with straight kids. They worry about the same thing, maybe gay and bis a bit more when coming out. But after that, I'd dare to say gay and bis have less angst because they've already had to adapt with it and develop. They can't carry on hating themselves for no reason.

But please, before claiming that what you say is facts, and we cannot argue with that, post the facts.

I have gay and bi friends who are and appear to be a lot more happier than a bunch of my straight friends... so yeah.. I agree with Random about presenting the facts, I would like to see this.

@ Some Random Randomness and StripedSocks`

Here http://www.traditionalvalues.org/pdf..._lifestyle.pdf are some of the facts.
And about the gays and bis being more angsty, that was just a personal observation I made about the gay and bi people I know and are friends with.

Personally i'm all for gay marriage. Honestly, there is no argument against it that isn't religious. I believe not only is it a right that should be given to all people regardless of preferences, but a means through which nature itself is trying to allow the human race the ability to feel love without adding to the population crisis.

BEFORE the baby boom there was the arguement that allowing gays to marry could cause the population to decline, but anyone who argued that back then has stopped since the world is now reaching a crisis point as far as overpopulation goes.

I always have the same arguement against people who say OMGMANGIRLONLEE1. It just changes slightly depending on whether they're religious or not

if they're religious: Homosexuality is god's way of telling the human race that there's too many of us, and we need to breed less.

if they're scientific: It's a trait that has evolved in our society to combat the gross overpopulation.

But honestly, america never follows the constitution anymore. There are so many laws that go against everything it says.

Honestly, i don't know why anyone still looks to america for anything. Once Bush got office, it all went to hell. I wish it was different, but if you approve of gay marriage, move out. head to another country.

Charvelle: Yes, you can argue with the "facts" presented by a site called "Traditional Values".
Facts are only facts if they are compiled, presented and verified by an unbiased official group or organisation. Your source is extremely untrustworthy.

EDIT: Never mind. Kah got there first, and said it better.

I hope you do not mind I disregard your "facts" because of this.
They have no problem lying to get people to have the same opinion as they do.

Using Traditional Values facts is like asking the KKK for facts about the African-American community.

I'm not a fan of marriage in general. But the government is, so if you are going to be together for years (and hopefully til death) and taxes would be easier, then yes, marry. Regardless of sexuality. You should be allowed to have a legally binding piece of paper to the other.

I think it's really stupid. Gays should be allowed marriage because they're people. It's a basic human, and kind of non-human right as well. It honestly isn't the biggest deal, there is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed marriage. It's not like gay people choose to be gay, so why should they be penalized because of the way some of their genes are arranged? They shouldn't. If a woman can marry a rock in L.A., I think gays should at least be granted that same right.

gays should be allowed to get married.
Everyone has the right to choose who to be with for their rest of their life just like straight people do. Plus its not me thats getting married with a girl, its someone else.
Dont get me wrong, but people against gay should mind their business, it´s not them inlove with the oppisite sex and plus they arent harming anyone.
All they are doing is loving each other.
Its not a crime.

Everyone has a right and so do the gays.
its good to show what you believe and i think that gays should be able to amrry
because it is their choice and their believe
and why would you stop someone for believe what they want.
I know many people dont support gays because they think its wrong, but it isnt
im not gay but people who are feel really strongly about it and your just taking it all away if you say "you shouldnt be able to marry" its sort of like "you shouldnt be able to be straight" thats just the way it is.
Gays for marrige always, see.... im supporting what i believe.

I think gay marriage should be legalized, and it will.It may take forever,but we'll get it...eventually.But we got it here,or at least we will in January.