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I'm sure if you were born 50 years ago, you would have a very difficult time wrapping your head around the dangers of having unprotected sex with multiple partners. Now it's common sense.
I'm sure 25 years ago, you couldn't see this whole "gay thing" as amounting to anything more than a few weirdos and freaks getting their jollies any way they can. :) |
Perhaps if there were a system set up it would be much different. In a way then if people were in a sense "recycled" for use again rather than just being cremated or put into the ground cannibalism could in a way become part of society. If it is indeed true that not all flesh you eat will cause insanity then with time perhaps values could change to see cannibalism as something that makes sense.
I think now I'm just rambling unsuccessfully... But do you kind of see what I'm getting at? It sort of sounds like something out of a science fiction novel... Quality control on human flesh and everything. Or in a way reminds me of The Lottery, although if I remember correctly the town didn't eat the person in that story. |
When you say that, yes, it does sound like a good idea. But we don't just go pop organs out of dead people, either.
And yeah, it would be great if we did, but we don't. For the same reason people find bugs and cats to be an unappealing meal. Its just how society builds us. But let's say we had it all-okay to eat the dead, who would the body be given to, wherever the will says? A family member? Fighting over the body would begin many problems. What would be the point of it being okay if lets say, my friend and I went out to the wilderness and I die, my friend eats me to survive. They'd have just broken the law, because they stole someone else's property! So where is it going anyway? Most bodies would still be left useless, anyway. A lot of people would probably still cremate and bury. And, If everyone eats dead bodies, where will we get organ transplants? But I suppose that may all be falling away from the topic, a bit. I wouldn't really have a problem with it. It's no more disrespectful than throwing someone in a pit or canning up their ashes in a bottle. To me, at least. And I think people have somewhat of a problem seeing the difference between cannibalism, and murder. Even if they are already dead, usually when someone says cannibal, its about, lets kill them and eat them. Change is hard to make, especially when you already have a whole mental design for something. |
You don't have to worry about organ donors - we would eat the muscles, not their lungs or heart :)
And yeah, the change in people's view on cannibalism is hard, but I'm pretty sure there are some out there curious enough to try it out, and since in the beggining there wouldn't be so much human meat avaible... I don't think any of it would waste, right? About the property thing - It was a survival instinct. In any case, you could pay the body o_o' PS: Why are shrimps and crabs so delicious?! They eat crap! @[email protected] |
Ah, but what then, they take the organs then send the body back to you? I don't know... The 'what to eat' and how it would work out would be rather complicated, I'm sure.
While that's true, I can imagine something like a civil war going on about it. And those few brave people could end up murdered. People aren't welcome to change at all *sigh* Though, I admit, it would be a hard thing for me to get used to as well... It shouldn't waste, until everyone did it(let's say ideally it becomes 'normal') They would end up not appreciating what they had to get, and I'm sure some would go to waste. But I suppose thats not too Important, either. The point they could fertilize with them is where that could work into. Pay... the body...? PSR: I don't like seafood... poor shrimp... :] |
Well, if the deceased person had stated in their will that they want to be eaten, then these organs that have a high demand from people who need organ transplants would be donated, the muscles sold as comercial meat, and the rest be used as some sort of fertilizer.
And hell, yeah. But these kinds of battles are necessary for change, see the current one about wheter gay marriage should or should not be? Well, you said if was someone's property o.ô So I guess if your friend did it as something totally necessary for his/her survival, your family would understand and either forgive your friend or if they're not that understandable... make him/her pay for the body that was consumed o_O'' PS: Seafood is my favorite, but sometimes when I remember that fish live and probably eat in a sea contaminated with human fecal material... just eww x_x |
I think the hypography forum says it best:
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*doesn't have an idea of what hypography means*
1) We disscussed about that in the first pages. It seems that such dissorders occur only when you consume a part of the nervous system, which would leaves us the muscles and the organs, but since the organs are too precious as transplant organs, we would end up eating only the muscles. 2) And yet, there are certain proteins plants can't give, a reason why some vegetarians start feeling bad enough to go to the doctor and discover this. 3) And we [or I, at least] already knew that, so the goal would be to reach the local market, not to give free food for everyone or something like that... It is, but we weren't looking for a solution to hunger, as is it's a different one *points at 3*. Which would make the point invalid. PS: I would like to know where exactly you found this o_o |
Have you seen what most humans eat? Thanks, but no. I'll stick to my hormone-filled chicken.
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Sea animals eat crap [literarily] and there are still some people who have no problem eating it [*guilty*]
PS: And it's not like we'll force-feed you. I don't like foie gras anyways. |
#2 isn't referring to proteins, it's energy levels. The energy contained in a plant is ten times that contained in the meat of a primary consumer (herbivore). The energy that can then be obtained from a secondary consumer (carnivore) is 1/10 that of the primary consumer. It's an energy pyramid. Being that humans are omnivores, the energy available in human flesh would be a poor source of energy when compared to plants or herbivore meat.
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Oh, so is that why I feel so sleepy after eating ceviche? =.=' And, I think pigs are omnivores too? We still eat sausages without a problem... or maybe it works different in the US? *shrugs* At least here in my country, people feed leftover food to them >_>
PS: And what about hamburgers? Do they have high or low energy levels? |
Eating makes you tired because your body will start to focus it's energy on digestion rather than focusing on the fight or flight (awareness, basically) responses that you have in place.
Yes, pigs are omnivores. Generally their diets are going to be leaning more towards plants, though. Hamburgers will have lowER energy levels. Hamburgers = beef = primary consumer, so 10% of the energy that you would get from a veggie burger or vegetable medley or something. Pork would be less. |
We also have vegetarian humans which for the most part are primary consumes save for those that drink milk, eat eggs, and most particularly those that eat fish. Vegan humans are a definite a primary consumer. Then full omnivores like me, kind of person who likes to get a full and balanced diet together and eat nice and hearty meals. Meat and vegetables enter my diet at about an even level. Then there are partial omnivores to the other edge, people who primarily eat meat, and mildly eat vegetables. Fast food heads often enough or snackfood junkies. Maybe human meat will be variable in price. Like how there are variable levels of cow there will be variable levels of human. Quality can be up to lazy vegan all the way down to bodybuilder. Should be fun watching them sorted.
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"Lazy vegan" to "Bodybuilder"? Now that's kind of funny xD And true at the same time. There are vegans out there which would count as primary consumers, right? Also, we're like pork: Eat both things, but more vegetables than meat anyway. I can't imagine a human eating just meat, they would die of a crappy inmunologic system x_x
PS: While we're at that, why does marinated fish make you more tired than fried chicken? o.ô |
I never eat human flesh. Never. The stuff's just too expensive, it's terribly complicated to pay for, too, with all the policemen and the courts and the nosy neighbors who think it's a crime if you go into a house with a bag that's as big as you are. Plus, the stuff is just unpalatable. Never eat an animal that stinks more in life than it does in death, that's what I say!
But even if human flesh was more desirable on a practical level, it isn't a sustainable food source. As the human economy, (which is the only really good economy around,) relies on how much food it can produce, using human flesh as a staple food or even a habitual dietary supplement is an unsustainable practice, as the humans in question take far more food to produce than they do to eat. Only once-in-a-blue-moon ritual comsumption is sustainable, and while ritual can be fun, I always find myself hankering for Peppermint canes well after Christmas - don't you? And then they're no where to be found. |
Well, eating pork wouldn't be as sustainable, right? I only eat it on New Year, but find myself craving hotdogs the rest of the year xP
PS: I hate nosy neighbors too, good thing I have none! :D |
I'm no expert, but I believe pigs eat a greater variety of things than Humans do, thus making them cheaper to raise as meat. On the other hand, hotdogs may prove my first assertion wrong - I don't like to think about what those might be made of.
What luck! Whatever did you do with them? |
She ate them of course.
Though as a ritual food who knows how it could be, considering how many humans die a year, particularly in the winter months, it might be a good kosher alternative to turkey. (Well the Jewish one's anyway xB ) On the stink thing I don't know about you but any large grouping of animals has a tendency to stink...while they smell quite nice over the rotisserie fire. Your phrases make me smile though. : D |
I am reading some of these more recents posts and to be honest. I had to check the topic title to see where I was. This is starting to veer off the topic of "Why we do not eat human flesh." Please keep your posts on this topic. ^^;
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Sorry Bartuc, it's just that everything has to do directly or indirectly with everything else, and so we started disscusing over one of these vectors o.o
The hotdog thing reminded me of some neighborhood where cats and dogs started dissappearing... until they found the hotdog stand dude abducting some woman's cat x_X However the harvesting of human meat would be different, and maybe even cheaper. I think Yoshaki had mentioned that we would be skipping the costes of raising, constant examination and care, and only pay the tests, butchering [?] and transportation, right? Don't worry much about clients though. If there are people willing to pay a lot of cash to someone so that they bring [illegally] guinea pigs / guanta meat / cuchucho from Ecuador and cook it for them, people who eat the dark part of crabs, and people who like to eat cow's tongue, I don't see why there wouldn't be someone willing to try human flesh xD PS: I live surrounded by factories, an academy and a cementery. Nice huh? xD |
I don't mean to challenge your morals but I believe that even though in some places we may be suffering from famine, like in Africa, but we have bigger problems at stake also. For instance, AIDs is going to form in an airborne gas. I think we should use the bodies to study more in medical fields.
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Yes, but the consume of human meat wouldn't be for places were people suffer from hunger, since they do for the lack of money and/or proper transportation or food, elements vital for the conservation of meat so that it doesn't decompose.
And anatomy is a dead science. Healthy bodies which would be used for human consume aren't helpful for today's medical research, since what we're sorting out nowadays is body functions [in which you need a living working body], bacterial diseases [which wouldn't be adecuate for consume], genetic diseases [which would make bodies unconsumable] and mental problems [in which you need a living person]. The consume would only be accepted in places where educated and analitic people would consider it and think of the pros and cons of eating meat. However, people from third world countries wouldn't agree with it since education isn't good enough to teach them that following blindly is not the answer. At least in my country they would make a civil war xD And certainly providing someone who thinks you can cure AIDS by having sex with a virgin with delicate meat is as responsible as giving a 1-year-old kid a tiny puzzle piece, imho. PS: Maybe we should start teaching what Cheetos does to your body... >.> |
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I know this point might have been dropped a while ago, but prions are rendered non-infective if you boil or irradiate the meat. So you can't get CJD from any cooked human flesh (provided that its internal temperature went over about 160 F, the same temperature we're told to cook hot dog meat up to, and then keep the temperature above 141 F after the initial cooking process completes)
Also, If we're going to open up the whole issue of AIDS, the only way the AIDS virus could be transmitted "through the air" so to speak is if someone sneezed/coughed onto another person and that person 1) had their mouth open or 2) had several open wounds for the virus to land in. The AIDS virus can survive in dry environments for up to a week, and wet environments for up to 2 weeks. I remember reading that on a biology website somewhere, I will post it once I have the link for it. |
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