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Lady Novacaine 08-18-2009 04:28 AM

I for one couldn't really care less about a woman breastfeeding in public. However that doesn't mean just sit down next to me and flop it all out you know? >.< I mean to a point it is sort of wrong and I mean really why would you want to be all open in showing your breasts in public? I understand its not the point, its about feeding the child but if it was me i'd be very self aware and want to at least cover up with a blanket or something ya know? I don't want to sit down eating my lunch and have boobies and breastacles flying out every which way.


On that note I think they should have special places for such things..you know like in the bathroom they have baby changing tables? I think they should have a special section in places where women can flop 'em out and feed their children. But thats just me.

DarkxLorelei 08-20-2009 01:16 AM

Well.. Is there not a way to extract your own breastmilk and stick it in a bottle if you would have to feed in public?

Imoto-chan_Always 08-22-2009 03:34 AM

Personally, I agree that all mothers should breast feed unless there is some kind of medical condition that prevents them from doing so. You are right that it is the most healthy choice, and the most natural. However, I also find nursing in public to be inappropriate and explicit. For comparison, I hate it when people suck face in the middle of a public place; I think stuff like that should be done in private. Same with breast feeding. Go to the bathroom to do it. Wait until you get home. Better yet, milk yourself at home and put it into a bottle and do it that way! I just don't think any woman should expose her breast in public (unless it's a tasteful nude piece of art,) let alone have someone sucking on it. Even if it's a baby. There are ways to be health and decent at the same time.

AishaLeigh 08-22-2009 03:46 AM

ok..here's what i have learned. yes in some department stores there are areas where mothers can breastfeed their child without worry. also they have a thing to extract the milk from but the mothers complain it hurts which it probably does. personally i think the mothers should extract it or learn to adjust to the child's needs before going out in public. sorry to say but either have some decency for others and not flop it out in front of gods and country especially to other little children who don't understand it or to the perverts out there who get off on that type of thing. learn some modesty and take a blanket to cover up under.

as far as breast milk i think it depends on the mother's diet and if they smoke and what have you. if they smoked i don't think their breast milk is gonna be healthy sorry to say. but as it is it is up to the mother and their preferences. a lot of mothers i know use formula even if it does cost more then breastfeed their child/ren. BUT like i said..mother's preferences.

sorry if i come across as rude or whatever but not everyone is understanding about breastfeeding or having loud crying needy child/ren in public. take it how you wish.

rakwel 08-22-2009 04:34 AM

i think that breastfeeding is fine in general, i just would feel awkward if i am sitting on a bus or in the subway or something and a woman whips out her boobs and starts breastfeeding her baby.

~iBlazian~ 08-22-2009 06:51 AM

I have never seen a woman breatfeed in public, so I could care less, but I guess if a woman is just going to open her blouse when I'm standing right there then that would be awkward in a way. But its not like you have to look. Just dont pay attention. You dont think she'd want you to be staring at her the whole time while she does it? Of course she doesnt, that not why shes doing it. I do agree that a room/rest stop for woman to breatfeed is a good idea though.

rakwel 08-22-2009 06:10 PM

we live in a society in which everything is supposed to modest, and our bodies are supposed to be fairly private. so we are bound to be uncomfortable if a woman starts breastfeeding in public, regardless of whether we look or not.

at my mom's office there is a small office that they converted into a room to breastfeed since so many of the women were pregnant. if they could do that everywhere it would probably increase breastfeeding a lot.

Kris 08-23-2009 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkxLorelei (Post 1764943053)
Well.. Is there not a way to extract your own breastmilk and stick it in a bottle if you would have to feed in public?

There is, but many children do not feed from the bottle, it is painful for the woman, or it complicates the entire feeding process for the child.

slickie 08-23-2009 05:36 AM

Ladies, Go to the public restroom!

siaasgn 08-23-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slickie (Post 1764961604)
Ladies, Go to the public restroom!

Do you like to eat in bathrooms? I know I don't.

Trying to force someone to breastfeed in a bathroom is unsanitary and personally I think it is also rude and selfish.

slickie 08-24-2009 01:36 AM

They also have bras specially designed so you don't have to flop your tit out. Honestly, I could care less. If I don't want to see it, then I can walk away or something.
But if I had to breastfeed my kid, I would feel uncomfortable doing that in public. I would go to a Dressing room or something. I wouldn't want some pervert looking at my boob. (there's alot of pervs where I live)

Infinitys Echo 08-26-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Imoto-chan_Always (Post 1764956193)
Personally, I agree that all mothers should breast feed unless there is some kind of medical condition that prevents them from doing so. You are right that it is the most healthy choice, and the most natural. However, I also find nursing in public to be inappropriate and explicit. For comparison, I hate it when people suck face in the middle of a public place; I think stuff like that should be done in private. Same with breast feeding. Go to the bathroom to do it. Wait until you get home. Better yet, milk yourself at home and put it into a bottle and do it that way! I just don't think any woman should expose her breast in public (unless it's a tasteful nude piece of art,) let alone have someone sucking on it. Even if it's a baby. There are ways to be health and decent at the same time.

You would find a "tasteful" piece of nude art acceptable, but not the completely natural and normal act of nursing? I'd personally see it the other way around, but that just shows how different people's priorities, tastes, and opinions are.
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Originally Posted by AishaLeigh (Post 1764956241)
ok..here's what i have learned. yes in some department stores there are areas where mothers can breastfeed their child without worry. also they have a thing to extract the milk from but the mothers complain it hurts which it probably does. personally i think the mothers should extract it or learn to adjust to the child's needs before going out in public. sorry to say but either have some decency for others and not flop it out in front of gods and country especially to other little children who don't understand it or to the perverts out there who get off on that type of thing. learn some modesty and take a blanket to cover up under.

as far as breast milk i think it depends on the mother's diet and if they smoke and what have you. if they smoked i don't think their breast milk is gonna be healthy sorry to say. but as it is it is up to the mother and their preferences. a lot of mothers i know use formula even if it does cost more then breastfeed their child/ren. BUT like i said..mother's preferences.

sorry if i come across as rude or whatever but not everyone is understanding about breastfeeding or having loud crying needy child/ren in public. take it how you wish.

You don't come off rude. A little blunt with the flop comment, a little uptight with the decency comment, but hey, nothing wrong with that really. I can understand how others would see it that way if they've experienced the rare case of an arrogant, attitude filled nursing mother. Now to address your points, which I already have mostly in another post, but i see it needs to be said again.

Yes, you can express your milk, but it's not as easy as others will have you believe for the average mom. Some actually can't get more than a few drops at a time, while others may have a virtual flowing fountain. Then of course you have the issues with storage as well as the issues bottle feeding can cause in both the mom and the baby. Some babies won't (read as REFUSE) to accept anything but mom, while in others it can cause nipple confusion, with the end result possibly being the baby may completely refuse to nurse there after-some babies have this happen if given even a pacifier. As for mom, in the early months, it's not uncommon to begin leaking when it's time to feed or if something triggers the let-down reflex. There are nursing pads but there can be times when they may get soaked completely through, and quickly in some cases.

Timing, well, in the beginning, nursing babies need to be fed about every 2 hours. Mom shouldn't have to be homebound for the first month or so because of this-how would she get anything done that requires her to leave the home?

As for other children seeing it? It's an opportunity for a good parent to teach their child what the real purpose of the breast is, which in turn may help the stigma of nursing in future years.

As for health issues, there is NOTHING better for the baby. Even a smoking mother's breast milk is healthier than the best formula. Now a drug addict or alcoholic is a different matter, but overall, breast milk is best. Science STILL cannot duplicate it, not even close.

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Originally Posted by siaasgn (Post 1764963428)
Do you like to eat in bathrooms? I know I don't.

Trying to force someone to breastfeed in a bathroom is unsanitary and personally I think it is also rude and selfish.

Thank You for saying what needed to be said AGAIN.

If YOU (not "you" siaasgn :))want to eat in a bathroom, go right ahead. I don't think most people want to do that though. That idea even SOUNDS nasty, just imagine how nasty it is to really DO it. Ugh!

Kah Hilzin-Ec 08-26-2009 09:21 AM

... am I the only one who has been lucky enough to have never landed in a nasty-smelling bathroom...? Just asking, cause I've actually drank water and eaten sweets in mall bathrooms....

Ailyia 08-26-2009 10:40 AM

I have no problem with women breastfeeding as it is the most healthy form of feeding for the child. Modesty should always be play a part in it, because yes even though it is natural it would make some people awkward, but I'm sure that for the most part women just do that naturally. I've seen a few women do it, mostly at parks I've noticed. And no one around found it inappropriate.

I do have a problem when the child that is breast feeding is old enough to eat solid food. When the kid can walk around talk and eat by his/her self then it's time to change over for good. It is extremely awkward to see a woman breast feeding a child that is well over toddler age, because yes the health benefits are still effective, but... it's just... wrong, especially in public. Other cultures may prolong the breastfeeding time, but if that's the case it should definitely be done in the privacy in their own home. So that other people wouldn't misinterpret what was being done.

slickie 08-27-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kah Hilzin-Ec (Post 1764975713)
... am I the only one who has been lucky enough to have never landed in a nasty-smelling bathroom...? Just asking, cause I've actually drank water and eaten sweets in mall bathrooms....

I'm a janitor at the mall and we're required to keep the bathrooms practically sparkling clean all the time. We check them every 20 minutes and sanitize the toilets and sinks. We also use a special machine that basically pressure washes the bathroom from top to bottom every night.
public restrooms really aren't that dirty. I would say they are probably cleaner than the tables in the food court.

Ailyia 08-27-2009 12:10 AM

I've never been in a nasty washroom at the mall or in stores... the only place I'd stay away from would be the bus station bathroom, I've had to go to two different ones and those are hella gross.

Kris 08-27-2009 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slickie (Post 1764978429)
I'm a janitor at the mall and we're required to keep the bathrooms practically sparkling clean all the time. We check them every 20 minutes and sanitize the toilets and sinks. We also use a special machine that basically pressure washes the bathroom from top to bottom every night.
public restrooms really aren't that dirty. I would say they are probably cleaner than the tables in the food court.

Would you still want to eat your meal in there?
Do you still think it's fair to the woman and child to be banished to the rest rooms while her friends and family or what she wants to see is in the mall is not in the bathroom?

slickie 08-27-2009 06:33 AM

ok honestly that was a little unfair of me to say. And it's not that big of a deal for them to do that in public. But if possible women should use a breast pump and put their milk in bottles for public situations. I would. They don't HAVE to, but they should consider the possibility.

Kah Hilzin-Ec 08-27-2009 09:09 AM

The problem is not brestfeeding in public, it's doing it in an undiscreet way. Bathrooms I find more comfortable, less greasy, and better smelling than a food court table, but if you want to do it in there, have at least some consideration of others and make it so that nobody notice anything that might make them think too much. A baby sucking a breast is still a living being sucking a tit to those immature, and they flood the food courts.

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Originally Posted by Kris (Post 1764979440)
Do you still think it's fair to the woman and child to be banished to the rest rooms while her friends and family or what she wants to see is in the mall is not in the bathroom?

It's a mater of perception. What you see as being banished could be looking for a private and cleaner place to feed that special being for someone else.

Oukan 08-27-2009 10:08 PM

I think that mothers should go to a bathroom to breast feed. Why? Its not why you think. Im not against it, Im a mother of 2 and I breast fed both. But it is such a privet thing to have your breasts out for others to see. There is perverts out there that doesnt care if its cause your feeding your child. You would not want them perverts staring at your breasts. Its just degrading and embarassing to have people looking at you like that.

Infinitys Echo 08-28-2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kah Hilzin-Ec (Post 1764975713)
... am I the only one who has been lucky enough to have never landed in a nasty-smelling bathroom...? Just asking, cause I've actually drank water and eaten sweets in mall bathrooms....

While I've seen some clean public restrooms, I still wouldn't want to eat in one. Just the thought of the things that are done in there is enough to make me squeamish when thinking of food at the same time.
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Originally Posted by slickie (Post 1764978429)
I'm a janitor at the mall and we're required to keep the bathrooms practically sparkling clean all the time. We check them every 20 minutes and sanitize the toilets and sinks. We also use a special machine that basically pressure washes the bathroom from top to bottom every night.
public restrooms really aren't that dirty. I would say they are probably cleaner than the tables in the food court.

See above response. Add to that, you can never know when someone may come in to use the facilities while you would be feeding. I wouldn't want to be stuck nursing if someone comes in and stinks up the place, if you know what I mean :)!
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Originally Posted by slickie (Post 1764980169)
ok honestly that was a little unfair of me to say. And it's not that big of a deal for them to do that in public. But if possible women should use a breast pump and put their milk in bottles for public situations. I would. They don't HAVE to, but they should consider the possibility.

Unless I missed a post, all you said was what your job was and how well you and others did it at your place of employment. There was nothing unfair is saying that. As to the pumping, see my other TWO walls of texts where I mention how that may not work for many women.
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Originally Posted by Oukan (Post 1764982692)
I think that mothers should go to a bathroom to breast feed. Why? Its not why you think. Im not against it, Im a mother of 2 and I breast fed both. But it is such a privet thing to have your breasts out for others to see. There is perverts out there that doesnt care if its cause your feeding your child. You would not want them perverts staring at your breasts. Its just degrading and embarassing to have people looking at you like that.

It's your preference if you're comfortable nursing in a public restroom, but not everyone feels that way. This is one part of this argument that I always find the most offensive-that someone would suggest to another to feed their child in a public bathroom. Even suggesting they feed in a dressing room is no where NEAR as offensive.

Someone, I can't remember who in here, hit the nail on the head. It's not really a matter of nursing in public, it's more a matter of those doing so being discreet about it. I will agree that it should be done as discreet a possible. The problem is that it isn't always possible to be completely discreet. The bigger problem is always going to be the jerk who's doing it and has a crappy attitude about it to everyone else, but as in most every other situation, we shouldn't hold it against ALL nursing mothers because of the trashy one that pulled off her whole shirt to do it (though I've never come across that, I'm sure someone will say they saw it happen). MOST nursing moms are as discreet as the situation allows.

slickie 08-28-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinitys Echo (Post 1764985066)

See above response. Add to that, you can never know when someone may come in to use the facilities while you would be feeding. I wouldn't want to be stuck nursing if someone comes in and stinks up the place, if you know what I mean :)!

Unless I missed a post, all you said was what your job was and how well you and others did it at your place of employment. There was nothing unfair is saying that. As to the pumping, see my other TWO walls of texts where I mention how that may not work for many women.

I was referring to my first response when I said that they should use the public restroom.

Infinitys Echo 08-28-2009 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by slickie (Post 1764985092)
I was referring to my first response when I said that they should use the public restroom.

Ahh, ok. I've read all the posts but I sometimes I don't pay attention to who posts what :).

Kah Hilzin-Ec 08-28-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinitys Echo (Post 1764985066)
While I've seen some clean public restrooms, I still wouldn't want to eat in one. Just the thought of the things that are done in there is enough to make me squeamish when thinking of food at the same time.

I find it funny that I always think the other way :rofl: I'm always complaining on how greasy the tables, seats and sometimes even floor in the food courts are [a mix of little kids and KFC can do that] but never about the cleanliness of mall bathrooms. I guess there must be some that must be awful smelling / contaminated, but there's always the clothes shop with at least a couple of dressing rooms near them, right? And if you're with close friends / family, you can always ask a couple of them to screen you from pervy strangers. I mean, if someone's looking for options they'll eventually find them >o>'

slickie 08-28-2009 08:37 AM

yeah a restroom can get destroyed in 20 minutes by a nasty person. I've found some interesting things.


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