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#126
Old 09-08-2009, 05:17 AM

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I do agree people should take the time to read at least the last 3 pages, I usually read it whole but not everyone has the time. Repeting oneself never stops being annoying, though.... unless you're a priest 8D;;

I hope we can agree on this too...

Discreet mother - I've got no problem.

Undiscreet mother - I'll make a face.
Many times I won't mind repeating myself, but as you can see, I usually have entire walls of texts :). So it does get harder for me to repeat, both for myself AND others :lol:! I still love that head desk emoticon-I wish I'd thought to use it, it would have made my point much easier to see.

The discreet picture IS ideal, but (you know there's a but :lol:) there are some babies that won't tolerate that well. Usually it's when they get a little older and are curious about their surroundings. That's when baby himself can make being discreet hard, as another thing they may do is pull off altogether to look at something, leaving mom totally exposed, where she was before, covered, making for a quick, awkward moment. Little buggers, I tell ya.

Indiscreet-I agree, that's a bit much, but "I" could easily look away and not have it bother me. I realize that could make others uncomfortable if she were in a public setting, however she appears to be still in the hospital, or at least in a setting where it seems to be private in a manner. I'm hoping for the day when our society will get over itself and it's insecurities and be able to differentiate between a "sexual" breast and a "functioning" breast so to speak. I just noticed there are two pics for indiscreet. My above comment was meant for the one of the mom who looks like she's still in the hospital. Now the second pic (appears to be at a sporting event) does evoke a little more of a response, I think mostly because even her other breast is exposed to a degree that might not be necessary. However, that pic brings up points I brought up in the above paragraph about an older child. At that age, I doubt the child is going to tolerate a blanket over it's head. She looks pissed off enough as it is :lol:! I could still accept it and quickly look away and it be forgotten. We are uncomfortable with things not familiar to us. Hopefully, one day, it will be so common that we won't think twice about it.

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#127
Old 09-08-2009, 06:04 AM

If it hapens in a quick second in which the mother puts the baby back to their place and calms him/her it wouldn't be a problem. It is the sport event woman that... eh, undiscreet much.

And since there's a law against walking in public in a swimsuit [in my city, not the US], I guess there must be a reason behind it, most likely as a safety measure against those who sadly are too human to not look away and imagine too much. It's suposed to be their problem, yes, but I don't think you want people fantasizing pervertions over you, much worse acting over them. That's why modesty is still kept. It somehow protects us from what it in itself causes, so the day it would be abolished still seems far away xD;;

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#128
Old 09-14-2009, 07:38 PM

i don't think abolishing modesty laws would help anyone. we're already on the brink of public pornography as it is.

as far as the topic goes

i have no problem with breast feeding. i work at a photostudio so i get a lot of babies in here and hey... babies gotta eat. the only time i've been offended is when i'm sitting there showing pictures and i look over at mom to ask her a question just in time to see her flop out one of the girls and stuff it into her suckiling babies mouth. never bothering to cover or anything. so the rest of the sale i can't look at mom because if i do i get an eye full of boob and i'm having to listen to the mph mph of suckling child.

i don't understand "breast feeding is beautiful" just because it's how one naturally feeds their child. just because something is in nature doesn't make it beautiful...sometimes things just are what they are. do we think taking a dump is beautiful? it's natural.... what about popping pimples? they occur naturally to

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#129
Old 09-14-2009, 09:44 PM

Firstly... I don't get people. They get such weird phobias about nothing. I mean, is it considered indecent if you are walking down the street, and just happen to pass a mother dog, laying on the sidewalk, nursing her pups?
This whole idea of women's breasts being sexual stems from when patriarchal societies were taking over the world, and is perpetuated by modern day stereotypes, were large breasts are considered sexually attractive.
I really wish people could just take things as they are, and not read into them, or pervert it's meaning or significance just because of their own personal, dark desires.
Which reminds me... several years ago, when I was a kid, I was out somewhere in public, and a woman was breastfeeding her baby, with the infant covered with a light blanket, and some security guard came up and told her she couldn't "do that here." and that she needed to "take it somewhere else." Even as a young kid... that made me mad.

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#130
Old 09-18-2009, 10:19 PM

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,other than that many people find them sexually attractive... but a lot of people also find feet sexy, does that mean nobody should be allowed to wear sandals?
Good example. >.>

This reminds me of the baby bluse comic where there was someone breastfeeding on an airplane, and the guy next to her gets all mad and says it's gross, and when she leavs taks out an isue of playboy....:P

Anyway, It doesn't hurt anyone, so why should'nt people breastfeed in public? Don't like it, don't look at it.

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#131
Old 09-19-2009, 04:45 AM

My opinion in this matter is that if they want to feed their child in public. At least go to the bathroom and feed the child there. I know I would see your nipple and all but I, of course, would look away and probably giggle at the fact that the baby is cute but the nipple would be awkward. I still would find it funny, in some way. I am callow. I am still maturing, okay? I just haven't seen a nipple yet, thank god! Still I don't find anything sexual about that, maybe if you have a child-sucking-on-mother's-nipple fetish. Then, of course, you will get horny. But I still think you should go to the bathroom or at least get bottles ready when you're going to travel out and feed the child the bottle that you pump from your breast. I mean, think about it. At least the mothers boob won't hurt, right? Dx I heard it hurts if you don't feed it to your child. I had two sister's who were pregnant and have babies.

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#132
Old 09-19-2009, 10:13 PM

Are you crazy? Of course you shouldn't breast feed in public! If you're going to do something like that then at least do it at home with some decency! Some people find that disgusting( I don't). So to save all the trouble from that....it should be done in the safety of their homes!

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#133
Old 09-19-2009, 10:30 PM

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Are you crazy? Of course you shouldn't breast feed in public! If you're going to do something like that then at least do it at home with some decency! Some people find that disgusting( I don't). So to save all the trouble from that....it should be done in the safety of their homes!
A newborn child cannot wait hours or even about thirty minutes to eat. A newborn needs to eat as soon as it feels hungry, so that it can be healthy and develop properly.

So, should a breastfeeding woman simply never leave her home to ensure the newborn won't have to go without? I'm sorry, prudes who simply can't stand to a see a child eating should have to get over themselves, not force women into inconvenient, confining situations.

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#134
Old 10-03-2009, 05:30 PM

I dont have a problem with it as long as they are discrete about it. You can have a shawl or scarf that can be used to cover the breast and infant when they are doing it. I do have a problem with women who are blantant about it. Some women are right out there with it the same way a flasher is to offend people and laugh about it.

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#135
Old 10-03-2009, 11:09 PM

I've heard several stories about this. Personally if I were a mum I would never do such a thing. First of all, it's public embarrassment for me and possibly anyone else associated with me. Let's not forget that's it the public do such a thing and it's considered indecent exposure which is illegal. Also, parents don't want children to see that, take it elsewhere. plskthnx

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#136
Old 10-03-2009, 11:24 PM

Quite frankly, I don't want to see male boobs anymore than I want to see female boobs, but you don't see me expecting laws to be made to "protect my eyes" from the ebil human anatomy. You don't like seeing something, and it's not endangering you or making things unsanitary, get the hell over it.

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#137
Old 10-04-2009, 12:04 AM

I'm sorry that you would be embarrassed to feed your child. In the US, it's most definitely not illegal, and in some states they have even enacted laws that specifically make it exempt from being considered indecent exposure and the likes. Lastly, you most definitely can't speak for all parents, and you're probably not even speaking for half of them, and that would be on a world basis.

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#138
Old 10-04-2009, 01:43 AM

Sure, seeing a woman breastfeed, especially when it is either in a rather public place or someone you don't know, is going to be an awkward situation for anyone who doesn't have a kid/doesn't understand. However, I don't think I would ever want to inconvenience a mother because from what I can tell, being a mom is really tough. You can't just expect a mom to stay at home 24 hours, 7 days a week with her child[ren]. Especially not with the way the world works today. I'm fine with just averting my eyes. I'll be honest, even if the mother is being discrete, the situation is going to be awkward. I'm going to feel awkward but that's me.

Personally, I would probably try and do a combination of both breast milk in a bottle and breastfeeding. I'd save the breastfeeding for home, where I am comfortable and I can have personal time with my child. I don't think I'd want to have to worry about other people along side some of the stresses of general life. Nor would I want my own stress to come off on my child while we are having such a close bonding time.

It's really at the parents' discretion what they decide to do in the situation. No one else should decide for the child save for the guardians and if they choose not to breastfeed and go another route, that is their choice to do so.

I don't think the percentage mentioned in the first post is going to go down because of laws saying that you can breastfeed in public without reprimand. It's obvious that laws are not the problem.

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#139
Old 10-04-2009, 05:38 AM

I wonder, are there any laws about brestfeeding while at work, or you don't work while breastfeeding?

I live in Ecuador, and while teaching, I found this law about how women are allowed 15 minutes to breastfeed their kid every three hours :shock: Made me think that babies can get used to schedules after all, but I'm not a baby or a mother or a doctor, so mehh~ Someone enlighten me on this :D

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#140
Old 10-04-2009, 05:46 AM

wow, that's an interesting law. If someone brought their baby into my work everyone would probably look at them crooked.
It does make sense though. Babies probably have to eat at least every 3 hours. What's funny though is that we already have a law that you're supposed to have a break (at least 10 minutes) every two hours. and depending on the length of your shift, a 30 minute lunch is included.

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#141
Old 10-04-2009, 08:01 AM

I am very pro-breast feeding. As you stated, it's very good for both the baby and mother. It's actually nice to meet other people that are pro-breast feeding as well. Wherever I go it's anti this and anti that. If I do see it in public then I am honestly thrown by it, but it's still nice to know that they're doing what they should be doing. God gave us certain things to USE. If we don't use them, I feel it's like spitting in his face.

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#142
Old 10-04-2009, 09:46 AM

I believe it is just a natural part of life. And now a days theres so many things that you can just cover up with it shouldn't even really make that much of a difference, not to mention for times out in "public" they have actually invented pumps so that you don't have to do the actual deed of it in public. But hey, blankets over the shoulder specialty shirts and bras to make it less uncomfortable for everyone do exist.

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#143
Old 10-05-2009, 02:44 AM

I honestly think it should be done in public. What is the mother suppose to do, not ever leave the house or is the mother suppose to starve the baby?! I think not. They have blanket type things up at Wal-mart to shield the breast and keep it alittle bit more private. It is only wrong when the mother just whips out her boob and just shows it to the world. I am a mother and I did breast feed my son, but I wasn't going to just let it all hang out just because I have someone to take care of. I got something to cover me and my son. That is only when breastfeeding shouldn't be allowed. When a mother doesn't cover herself.

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#144
Old 10-07-2009, 11:08 AM

Interesting, I do not see many male avatars on this forum lol. Now onto business. The woman already pushed that baby through a tiny hole causing intense pain, she has to change the baby, burp the baby, do all sorts of other baby stuff and you think she should have to deal with not being able to do what EVERY mammal on this ball of dirt does, for your convenience? Wow, where has the world gone when we can't be human anymore? I understand that it is awkward. I have seen a woman breastfeeding and I knew her too! She was my friend's sister as well! Yes it is kinda weird but you get over it when you stop making a big deal about it. Do animals argue over this crap? No. They even share the duty(sometimes) if they have to. I was surprised at the amount of posts against breastfeeding. I would like my wife(when/if I get one) to breastfeed our child(ren) very much. I was never for the unnatural when it comes to behavior. Seriously, let's worry about us less and worry about the mother more. If you and your friend are out in the woods and one of you have to "go", they can't just "go somewhere much more private" for your sake. They can go behind a tree but how far would they have to go to be out of sight completely? Just don't make a scene and it won't be a problem. People are entitled to their opinion and I am not trying to shove anything down any throats. I have my own views and so does everyone else. I am just trying to make a point.

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#145
Old 10-07-2009, 12:14 PM

I personally feel that its a ridiculous idea to think of a mother breastfeeding in public as indecency. People should not feel ashamed of breastfeeding or seeing a woman breastfeed in public. I'm not a religious person at all, but even in this situation, I would like to think God made us the way he wanted us. It natural for mothers to feed the child, in all species that give birth to their young. It is also not the mothers fault if the people around her view it as a perverted/indecent act. If there are people that don't like the view, why are they looking?

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#146
Old 10-10-2009, 09:35 PM

if i ever had a baby i would feel awkward breastfeeding in public, but i don't care if other people do it as long as they have one of those little blanket things to cover up their boobs.

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Old 10-11-2009, 02:02 AM

I don't think you should have to be in a private place in order to FEED your child. It's completely natural, and I don't see how it's offensive at all.

OOH, A BOOB. BEING USED IN A TOTALLY NON-SEXUAL WAY. I'M SO OFFENDED! HOW COULD SHE FEED HER OWN CHILD WHEN SHE KNOWS THAT I, A COMPLETE STRANGER WHO CAN LOOK AWAY AT ANY MOMENT IF I GET UNCOMFORTABLE, AM STANDING HERE? HOW RUDE.

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#148
Old 10-12-2009, 07:41 AM

oh man, well I think it's fine, but I probably wont sit next to a woman doing it.
I understand that it's good for baby and mother and if the baby is hungry right then and there, then yea it should be fed!
but I'd get embarassed, cause I admit.......if I stay seated next to them....I stare.....I'm a starerererer........er ^^'

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#149
Old 10-12-2009, 08:25 PM

Personally, I don't like it. I doubt I'm ever going to breastfeed, but thats my choice.
If I take my shirt off and run down the street, yeah I'm going to get arrested for public indencency. Some cases I don't mind people breastfeeding in public, but other times it just annoys me. I don't want to look at other women's breasts. When I'm walking down the road and a women is sitting outfront doing that? Couldn't you just go inside or into your backyard?
One time I was going into a store, and there was a women on the curb breastfeeding, and it was completely unnecessary.
Also, at a party I was at once, a mother's young child came running up to her, lifted her dress, and began breastfeeding, and she continuted her conversation like nothing was wrong.

One of my biggest problems is women who do it at parks or beaches. Once I was at a park with my mother and much younger brother while a women was doing that, well my little brother came running over to us asking what her breasts where. If you're not going to let your 4 year old watch tv or movies with nudity, why do I want that when going to a park?
I honestly think it's rude, but thats just me.

Also, it's not going to starve if you don't breast feed. I have a lot of friends who breast feed in there homes, and take a bottle with them when out in public.

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#150
Old 10-12-2009, 09:14 PM

I can't believe that people are against breastfeeding. Sure it's awkward and uncomfortable but it's human nature. Should I also not buy tampons from a male cashier because it makes him uncomfortable? Where would you draw the line? Do you really think that crying infant cares at all about how uncomfortable you are? Definitely not.

The simple fact is, things in life are going to uncomfortable...if you can't handle someone breastfeeding what else can't you handle?

 


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