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Originally Posted by Shaw (Post 1764815171)

Forget about what? The war itself, the concentration camps that killed millions, the tyranical power of a mad hungry individual who brain washed million of people to believe his thoughts on a group of hard working people, forget about the poeple that actually got out alive and are still haunted by their nightmares of that horrid time and place, yes lets forget about all that. Hey, I got an idea. Let's forget that we have holidays, or better yet the presidents. Hey, they're all old things old ideas, past issues and events that have happened. Just because it's old doesn't mean we should forget about them. I say we should learn about the events and try to understand how not to allow this tragedy to happen.

You're taking it all to an extreme. I believe he meant to accept the past is past and, as long as you don't commit the same attrocities, there's nothing wrong. I agree with Nalah Sin's last post. If people can get over these atrocities, they can accept they can't change the past, just learn from it.

How that sort of thing would be handled in another country, I cannot honestly say since I'm not familiar enough in the current customs and laws.
I akin this to someone wearing a cross knowing that symbol was waved at people when they were burned at the stake for witchcraft or more recently on the signs of protesters for the funerals for gay family members. Just like some people see burqas and see the symbols of brutal oppression of women. Along with the Confederate flag, which is still raised in most southern states, as a symbol for slavery. Most of these symbols have negative connotations because they were used for horrible things. But one thing to remember is that in this country we do have the right to say whatever the hell we want to say, and you cannot deny someone that right just because they're saying something you find offensive or don't agree with. And while yes, I agree it is tasteless and insensitive, for me to say they can't do that (especially if they don't really mean anything harmful by it, like most people who have the things mentioned above) would be to deny a basic freedom.

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Originally Posted by beagirl1227 (Post 1764675080)

What I find amazing is that the "nazi symbol" was originally a buddhist symbol. I think it was for something about nirvana... In any case, it shouldnt really be looked upon in such a difficult light. I understand that for many when used in the Nazi context it can cause a lot of pain or fear. However, displaying the symbol (maybe on a keychain or necklace or something...?) shouldnt be considered a crime or be frowned upon.

The swastika has been used in many cultures across the globe, not just in Buddhism. Hinduism and Jainism have utilized this symbol, as well as the ancient Romans, the Greeks, several northern European peoples, Southern and Eastern European peoples, and even Indigenous peoples, such as Native Americans in the US.

However, I disagree with you on your viewpoint that using this symbol today is in any way okay. It's been tainted, and that's just how it is. I, even as a person with Åsatro (old Norse religion) sympathies, would avoid using this symbol out of respect for the people who suffered during the WWII.

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Originally Posted by Stormlick (Post 1764831184)

Really? I see it more of a way as reclaiming and reintroducing the positive meaning of peace behind the symbol. After all, it has a millenia of being a positive thing that negative! Then again, I'm Japanese and the symbol perhaps isn't as impacting because it's kind of all over our culture as being something positive.

As to the OP, I agree and don't see anything wrong with the wearing of an older uniform. As long as they weren't doing anything disrespectful, what's the point of getting upset over what someone is wearing?

I doubt anyone who wears the Uniform today is wearing it as an offensive remark.
I personally love the Uniform, Its quite stylish and the past should simply be left behind. :)

Just wearing the unifrom not a big deal to me.

It can in fact be sexy. However if you look at it from another point of view. Its a symbol of something that stood for an era that was very horrible and its not nessisarily the uniform its self that offends some, but the meaning behind where it came from. For an example, what if someone wore a KKK uniform for halloween? Some may find it funny, while others may get very offended and may even get in a fist fight over it.