Not every religion has any sort of higher being.
Other than the one Philomel mentioned, there's Taoism, Confucianism, and there are even atheistic and agnostic Quakers.

Please educate yourself about religions before you attempt to comment on them.

Thanks >.< I knew I was forgetting a ton. I can't believe I forgot liberal Quakerism.

But they have written words...there fore your point is invalid..


I mentioned Atheists don't believe in a higher being and agnostics do not "not believe" they just question if there is one...there is a difference. And Taoisms don't deny a high being they just believe it is above our comprehension.

Confucianism is not actually a religion, it is the study of life...like being a vegetarian.


I do my research before I make comments..

It's because when there's something people cannot explain, they make things up.
Does anyone remember when they were a little kid and they made a story up because they didn't actually know how something worked?
Well, I think that religion is just used to control people, maybe it started as one of those ideas. What's better than when someone does something you see wrong to threaten them with eternal damnation?

Honestly, I'll agree with you. Religion is one of the most aggravating things when talking to people, especially if you're debating it. My boyfriend's family is horrendously religious. Honestly, his little sister's thought process is appalling. His dad has kicked me out of the house for commenting on things about religion, it's the worst.

When you have someone who believes in Christianity, and thinks being naked is a sin. Then, you make a comment on that Adam and Eve started naked and were punished for seeing each other sexually, and covered themselves. Following with the fact they say that society says it's wrong so it's a sin. Then it's obvious someone's logically lacking. Especially since it's one of the first things in the damn bible.

Also, imagine this.
"Pagans are stupid, why do they believe in mother nature. It's called god, DUH!"
How annoyed would you be? Especially if the person was serious.
What exactly is wrong with what they said? If you're not an idiot you should probably know...

- Paganism is about giving back what has been taken from the earth.
- Pagans generally don't have a god.
- Paganism isn't about worshiping mother nature, it's about respecting the place you live on and thanking it by not treating it like complete shit.
- These words came from someone who's an animal/nature lover/hippie according to themselves.

Well, I have to deal with comments exactly like this from my boyfriend's little sister almost on a daily basis. It's disgusting and I am pretty damn sick of it, not to mention she's not physically attractive either and has the biggest ego EVER. Anyway, *cough* you just have to deal with it.

A book about the religion =/= religious text :angel:

lol you're funny..:)

No, it's true. "Religious text" suggests a text that is central to the religion it's related to. The Bible, the Tanakh, the Quran, and even (though to a lesser extent) the Satanic Bible are all considered 'religious texts'. The myriad of books written about Christianity are not considered religious texts, because they are individual interpretations and musings on Christianity, and other Christians are free to consider or ignore or agree with or disagree with those writings. The same is true of all other religions.

The rest of your post does not in any way address anything I said. Also, it is possible for atheists to be agnostic. They're called....agnostic atheists. Shocking, I know. Agnostic atheists do not believe in a god, but they accept that they do not know for certain. Some extend it to "cannot know for certain", or even "no one can ever possibly know for certain". "Agnostic" simply means "without (a-) knowledge (gnosis)". Many agnostic atheists refer to themselves simply as 'agnostics', largely to avoid conflicts caused by negative reactions to the term 'atheist'. At any rate, that there are religious atheists proves your claim that everyone involved in a religion is theistic and all religions are theistic wrong.

That is not what I meant when I said she was funny...I was merely calling her post funny..cause it was cute. I get what you mean by religious texts vs religious ..whatever you want to call them...

That's what I said..just in more words...Agnostics ...ok I can't find my post about agnostics.....but My husband is one..and I said that they don't "not" believe in a "God"..they just have to many questions to admit that there is one. Like my husband admits that he believes there is a higher power..just doesn't know what it is..a God or Gods...he just is happy being in the dark on certain things.

Even though I still consider myself a Christian, I definantly don't see myself as a religious person. To me, religion is basically trying to place human comprehension on something that no one can truly ever describe. This is where faith comes in. You got to have faith in order to believe that there are things bigger than us.

People need something to believe in, in a world where nothing is what it seems, except the fact that evil seems to be around every corner.
They need something to trust and something so they feel loved.

You know how blind people are about someone when love is put into the equation. :\
Anywho, if they start doubting their beliefs, or get proved wrong, their whole world will be ripped to shreds. People don't go out of their way to do that, so they just sit and take it like a man, whatever that means. ;D

xD
Humans are conceited, we're no better than any other creature on the planet, we just like to think we are. Makes us feeeel gewd. xP

I find a big flaw in that there faith is that there is not a heaven and hell and we see it. I believe hell was just invented to scare people into converting. :\
REINCARNATION exists. I could go on about this with some flimsy details that I'm about to go research, but I won't get into that now. xD

Calmly takes the stage. I am a christian here is how I have learned why it seems so different is that the Greeks and Roman have many different means for one word and it depends on low the reader its self translates it. Where as Hebrew
has a single translation for most if not all words. So we really have to look at the translator.

[/SIZE]Well at least the things they're spreading are good. Loving everyone, not murdering, just trying to be the best person you can be. At least they are not spreading hatred. I don't think believing in Jesus as the Messiah is oh so bad.

That really depends on what part of the bible you look at. Let me show you:
Cowabunga It's Murder Time!

Just one of many examples in which actions that are considered immoral by Americans, are justified completely by the Holy Bible and the people who follow the teachings of that religious doctrine.

Here's another one linking to the same site different page:
Woohoo Rape away!!

I would disagree. All the quotes apart from one, (Romans) were from the old testament. The new testament on many occasions rejects these ideas. The best examples are conflicts arising between Jesus and the Pharisees i.e John 8:1-11, Matthew 15:1-28, Luke 11:37-53.

It's not an inconsistancy. The law of agape, which Yeshua promotes, puts one idea (love thy God with all thy heart, and love thy neighbor as thy self) above all else. If an old law violates this, it is thrown out. This is the true reason Christians are able to draw from the OT, but are not necessarily bound by all the laws found within. Now, admittedly, a great many miss this fact and think that either the OT is entirely worthless to Christians or it still applies completely, but that's a problem with the people, not with the religion itself.

Exactly =3

They are taught to turn a blind eye. Not beliving is back sliding and they are judged for it. Even from a young age they are taught to just belive and it will save your soul. Its wierd cause you can't talk them out of it. Your not hardly even allowed to try but they can and are required by there religion to shove it down your throat everytime they see you. They will have your "blood" on their hands if they don't let you know that all the BS they belive is true and you will go to hell if you choose to not belive. BAH!!!! I grew up in a Christian house and family and I'll tell you what they are not as great as they seem and I do know what i'm talking about! Sorry now im having a small energetic feak out....

This thread is a prime example of what I say is: "The thing you hate to see most is your previous self"

I would have to agree, Inertia. It seems like the people having the worst kneejerk reactions to Christian ideas are the ones who left Christianity out of anger or disappointment, rather than the ones who were never Christian to begin with or left it because spiritually, it just didn't do it for them.

Take Danielley, for example. As an ex-Christian, she should know that they're encouraged by the Bible to "spread the Word", but they are equally encouraged not to force it on others, and indeed, Yeshua repeatedly makes statements suggesting that those of religions other than Christianity who love others and are kind are, in fact, living in a way that honours him, and are as such far more likely to end up in Heaven than Christians who use hatred and violence to try and convert others. She should also know that the Bible's only mentions of "Hell" outside of Revelations are referring to a literal grave (as in, Hell is utter nonexistance), a trash heap outside of Jerusalem, or using Tartarus as a metaphor to make a point. Even the mention in Revelations, which describes Hell as a fiery place of torment, does not in any way suggest human souls go there, let alone ones who do very specific naughty things. She might even realize that not every Christian sect supports evangelism or believes in Hell.

But instead, she's letting anger and hatred and resentment toward who she once was overpower logic. And she's certainly not the only one in this thread. And even outside of this thread, in the real world, people still do it. What's really tragic is when they turn that around and let their hatred spread to religion as a whole, and then cannot be convinced that Abrahamic religions, Christianity specifically, are not the end-all, be-all of religion.

Epiphanies can be powerful realizations. ;)

Perhaps you shouldn't be discussing Christianity if you haven't bothered to learn the basics, Shtona. Ignorance is no excuse when it comes to a religion as accessible as Christianity is.

The "law" refers to Mosaic Law, i.e., Old Testament Law. With Christ, these two commandments are paramount and all others that are at odds with these are to be disregarded. The second set of verses shows this in saying that Christ has freed Christians from Mosaic Law.

As for the people who followed Mosaic Law, they were not necessarily following a religion. This was a nation of people, and Mosaic Law was governmental law; furthermore, everyone who followed the law was able to be one of God's people. Gentiles, everyone who is not Jewish, are not subject to the law and could not gain this blessing, according to Old Testament tradition. Through the sacrifice of Christ, the law is no longer the way to gain the blessings of Abraham, to be one of God's people.

Being a christian - I not, I'm polytheistic - is a faith, based on faith...much like all the other major religions of the world. Trying looking at it this way: you're parents probably told you that touching the stove when it was hot is a bad thing - and indeed it is - and you believed that when you were young, but as you got older you became less trusting and eventually touched the stove. That casued you to get burned. the moral i get from any religion: believe us or burn.