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Emotional, Physical, Cheating, Affairs, what are your view points?
Cheating, having an affair, side stepping. There are many names for it. Rather it is on your spouse or significant other. Everyone has "thoughts" about someone other then their significant other at one point in a relationship. Even if we don't want to admit it. Rather it is "Oh he/she's cute." to actually starting "conversations" with them.
Most of us are raised to honor our significant other; most societies even look down on people being "married" to more then one person. In the dating field, it isn't uncommon for people to "test the waters" with more then one person. You know, to see which one is the "right" one. Has anyone ever "cheated" on your significant other? If you are uncomfortable answering the question, no one is forcing you to say anything; and no one should judge you. This is a discussion not a witch hunt. Do you think that having an emotional affair with another is the same as cheating? Or is the definition of affair specifically left for the psychical types? |
I think if you cheat, you are downright wrong and trifling. You don't love your significant other enough. There is no excuse for it.
Cheaters who blame their lover by saying "you didn't love me enough, etc" are even worse. If your lover did not love you enough, leave them. Don't go behind their back and get defensive when they find out. Cheaters are wrong. No exceptions. I believe in true love. I can almost buy into forgiveness. I don't think I can forgive my lover for betraying my trust like that. I am worth far more. |
You are right Tsukipon, the victims, meaning you the one who is cheated on is worth far more then that. There really is no excuse, you promise your heart to someone you should never have to worry about them breaking your heart.
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I've never cheated, but I suspect that I've been cheated on before (though person in question still vehemently denies it).
Cheating is the one rule I've set for myself that I haven't broken (when it comes to relationships). I won't lie, sometimes I get tempted, but the fact that it's the only rule left gives me even more reason to hang on. My fiance and I have already discussed how we'd feel about cheating. Although I find cheating absolutely despicable, and under normal circumstances grounds for cutting off a relationship, he knows that if he cheats, he only gets one free pass from me. I love him too much and we've both put too much time and effort into our relationship to end it over one mistake, one misstep. He has wiggle room if he gets drunk and does something stupid, but he knows he'll have to do a lot to build my trust back up. He's pretty much said the same thing to me, but he's not quite as forgiving as I am, so it might end if I were to cheat. But, that's not something I could bring myself to ever do. I'd let myself down, and I'd hurt him more than I could ever imagine. I don't want to do that to him. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. We also have some serious boundaries in place. No groping, no kissing (other people). He's had a girlfriend cheat on him (because he wouldn't "put out" even though he did plenty for her and she did nothing for him), and I've been sexually assaulted, so we both have enough trust issues that we've combated along the way anyway. We don't feel the need to stress those any more. |
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The excuse: "Oh I was drunk...my bad." is a piss-poor one....l |
His drunkenness compounded with someone else's drunkenness...
I don't expect him to make moves on any girl, he's not like that even when he's extremely drunk, but I'm not sure how well he'd be able to resist some floozy if he was drunk enough, that's all. I'm not worried that he'd do anything on his own. But, he's not been in a situation like that before, and I'm a pessimist, so I worry :) Does that make any sense? |
As a person who's been cheated on multiple times I can say I absolutely abhor it and anyone who would suggest I cheat on my lover. It hurt really bad when I found out I was being cheated on, I wasn't good enough you know.
Doesn't matter if its emotional or physical, the pain of feeling inadequate for your lover is still there. The deepness of that pain really depends on how much they care(d) for the cheater, and will typically still have the same negative reaction. An affair is an affair. I personally will never have an affair or be tempted to have one. When I'm with someone I just stop looking at other people for things I find attractive in a partner. Loyalty is a key part of a relationship for me. |
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I have been cheated on, my ex-boyfriend went out with my best friend behind my back while I was a church camp (Oh the irony...) I have also had some less-than-pure thoughts about someone other than my boyfriend.
My boyfriend and I are in a weird spot. Neither of us have ever been in a serious relationship before each other. I decided that the best rule to set would be a "look don't touch" rule. Granted, that's pretty generous, but I think complete restraint could have negative consequences. I really don't think he has the guts to cheat on me, I had to ask him out etc., but we are in college now so I am not ruling out the possibility. The drunkeness thing is something I am curious about. I have never personally been drunk, but I have seen enough drunk people to understand it. I think that when someone is drunk, their common sense is replaced by their biological urges. So if someone was sober and saw an atrractive person across the room, they may think, "oh, that ___ is hot." and think nothing beyond that. But if a person is drunk, they may not only think that but begin to react. And as they slowly lose control of their body they may end up being taken over by their urges entirely. That's why I give the "If you are drunk then you get one pass." Emotional cheating isn't wonderful, but it isn't as horrible as physical cheating. We live in a sex-charged society and unless they are a saint, no one is immune to everything that they see. That's where my "look, don't touch" rule comes back. Affairs are depressing. They seem to occur for a variety of reasons, personal empowerment, relationship stagnation, and overactive libido. I really don't know how I would feel about someone having an extra-marital affair. I always used to joke that I'd get the hedge clippers and perform a vasectomy if that happened. In truth, I am very forgiving and I doubt I could cause that much physical harm.(I would be tempted though) That about sums up my views on this subject. |
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We also go by the "look don't touch" rule. He never acts on it, and although I've tempted myself, neither have I. Sometimes when we're in public I can even tell who he's looking at and why he's looking at her. I'll usually comment out loud what he's thinking ("Ooo, that blonde has a nice butt") and he'll just look at me, smile, and say something like, "Yeah, but I like you the most." I think it's kindof sweet, but that's just how our relationship is. I'm perfectly comfortable with that. |
ha ha. That's basically how our "look don't touch rule works as well.
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I absolutely disagree with cheating. In my eyes, there is no 'good excuse' that can justify it, or make it 'cool'. 'Blaming it on the alcohol' won't work with me either.
I've never had a boyfriend, but I can imagine looking at other, attractive men. However, I would NEVER dream of flirting or ever doing anything with them. I don't think I would condemn a boyfriend if I saw him glancing at some other chick's boobs, but there would be some serious issues raised between us if he were to flirt with her or touch her. I think I would have possession issues and I would not go for that whole 'but she's like a sister to me' thing. But that's beside my point. If I ever caught a future husband having an affair, I would go ballistic. To me, it's an issue of trust, and a promise. It's an issue of dignity. I'd honor him by being faithful, no matter how much of a tease the pool-boy is. I would expect the same from him. Call me a prude- but that's the way it is. |
My fiance has cheated on me a total of four times in our relationship. I got back at him with emotional affairs. In the end we were like, "what the heck are we doing?!" and just stopped. I mean it was ridiculous for us because the people we had emotional affairs/cheated with always wanted more. They would ask us to dump the other, and we're like, "are you crazy?! we're madly in love with each other -- I'd rather dump you than him/her". That was our indication that it's pointless to cheat. Cheating gave us the same answer our break-ups did, we always came back to each other as if drawn to each other. Now we've outgrown it completely because all the energy we would've put on revenge through cheating or whatever, we poured it on each other like normal couples should. It did wonders for our relationship because we're madly in love with each other and each day, it's like the first time we fell in love -- no day is the same boring old thing and that's because I'm more random than my fiance XD So he doesn't know what to expect in the next 5, 10, 60 minutes or even the next day! |
@Leenalia: I'm glad you both came around and now have a better relationship :)
I flirt sometimes, but it's usually with people I'm very close friends with, and always a mutual friend with my fiance. Well, I guess now that I think about it, it's not really flirting. We act like we're flirting. And it's only because my fiance doesn't flirt with me (and he knows this :)). He flirts with girls too, girls that I've known he's had crushes on (or still does) but it doesn't bother me because I know they're joking around. |
I'm kind of narrow minded when it comes to cheating. Showing interest in another girl but never really physically being with her, or kissing her or even having sex is considered cheating to me. I know I shouldn't look at it that way in regards to my fiance but I do. So when people ask me if he's cheated on me, I say yes and they look at me like I'm stupid. Poor fiance, people think that he went around having sex with the girls and kissing them, when all he really did was talk to them about their possible futures together --- futures that weren't really going to happen anyways. To this day, I don't know if he really cheated. There was only talking and hugging involved, maybe a kiss on the cheek. But making out and having sex, that never happened regardless if he wanted it to happen or not. I'm still the only person he had sex with, same with me. Hmm....maybe I should stop saying he cheated on me >.> |
Ah, I see. Well, that's not so bad, but the definition of "cheating" is flexible enough that it's pretty much whatever you consider it to be within your own relationship. As long as it's clear between you and him, that's really what matters most.
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What gets me is that my husband doesn't view that oral sex is cheating..
he hasn't cheated on me in ANY way..but that really really bugs me.. |
I think any form really is cheating. If my husband kissed another woman even an innocent peck, I would consider that cheating. Talking to another woman is cheating. I think any form no matter what it is, is considered cheating to me no matter what. I know he wouldn't do anything like that to me though, cause he isn't the type of person to do that ever. I can read him like a book and have been able to since I met him. He has had enough chances to cheat on me and never once did. I know I am safe from this. But even looking at porn to me is cheating. You shouldn't be sexually aroused by anyone but the person you are with. But those are my own personal opinions.
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So your husband isn't allowed to talk to other women? What?
And can't watch porn either? I feel bad for your husband. |
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Fine I'll spell it all out. Talking to another woman about emotional things, getting too close, more than friend talk. And porn, both of us don't like it. He doesn't want to watch it and we both have the same believe that if you have sex with someone, you are giving a part of yourself away to them that you can never get back. Don't say you feel bad for him, cause you don't know him or who he is. Trust me, my husband isn't like majority of the men out there. He only enjoys looking at his wife naked and we have been together for 13 years and counting. With 4 kids. If he hasn't changed yet, he won't. |
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and I watch it too... *giggles* I think I prefer the animated kind better... |
Megami: same here xD
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In regards to Lady Megami, I asked that same question to my fiance, "is oral sex considered cheating?". He said that unless the wife or the husband OKs the oral sex, it's considered cheating. Honestly if I catch him having oral sex with another woman I would literally break every bone in his body. He knows that, and because he's a masochist, he thinks it's very sexy of me to be the "violent type of jealousy" :P. In fact, it's because of these little threats of mine that he won't do anything, not because he's afraid but because he knows I mean business and that turns him on. Anyways, what I view cheating is having oral and anal sex as well as regular intercourse with someone else without your wife's or husband's approval. Fiance may make out with another girl that isn't me, I may not view it as cheating but I will definitely force him to wash his mouth with soap and refuse to kiss him for a week. Plus, he also has to re-solidify my trust in him. |
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