Wow! Read the part of his post that admits than his was a rant much? My god, Shtona, you really just aren't even trying anymore.

Kindly tell everyone in my area about this "near ban" on Christmas, please. Because for the last month, every local business has put out at least one commerical making a point of saying Merry Christmas, to the exclusion of every other celebration. Every year, my local news station has a series of commercials where the newscasters and their families wish everyone a happy holiday season, and this year, every single one has spent the entire freaking time talking about "It might not be politically correct, but MERRY CHRISTMAS", a few even throwing in that whole "Jesus is the reason for the season" bit. It's getting pretty fucking annoying, for apparently not being allowed.

As for the "political correctness" bit, I don't see why it's a bad thing. Blowing off a large chunk of the country just to make a point is douchebaggy behaviour. And if you're going to be like that, expect to be called out on it. Don't act like we're the ones with the problem.

Completely unfounded opinion. But then, you've admitted in the past that you need absolutely no evidence to support your judgements of people, so I'm not really that surprised.

In no way do I have a "distaste" for Christians. I don't care for their religion, but I have nothing against them. In fact, not so long ago in this very thread if I'm not mistaken, I made a point of defending them, saying that most of the more devout ones I've met have been some of the nicest people I've ever known. I'm just sick of them getting all butthurt because they're losing the iron grip they've had on this country's media since its founding and then complaining that they're being oppressed and persecuted. And I get it. They went pretty much directly from lion food to ruling one of the most successful empires that has ever existed, so they haven't had to learn how to play nice with others. To them, it's either be totally in charge, or be persecuted. But in our relatively civil world, they need to get over that mentality if they plan on existing for much longer.

And yes, I'm aware he said he wasn't religious. However, he also referred to Christmas as HIS holiday, something he still hasn't explained. If he isn't Christian, Christmas is no more his holiday than Kwanzaa is mine.

Philomel, I thought you were better than to try to claim a holiday that was completely fabricated by one black supremacist! ;P

How exactly do her fingers betray her words? Do not the fingers type the letters on the keyboard that become the words in the first place?

No one is banning the words "merry Christmas". Not one person. If a business wants to say "Happy Holidays" instead, because they want to cater a wide range of people, then that is the business's choice. If the government decides to go for a happy medium between the secular and religious groups and say "happy holidays", then good on them. There are a lot of people who don't celebrate Christmas. But, I guarantee you that you can say "Merry Christmas" if you want, and I guarantee you that any business and any church can wish someone a good Christmas or put up nativity scenes if they wish.

Yes, because they are the ones doing things. "Christianity" is a label applied to a group. Labels aren't entities and cannot do things. Any things. If I were talking about something positive, I would still be saying "Christians". If I were talking about a group other than Christians, I would still be using the label that applies to the individuals belonging to that group, not just a description of what they have in common.

I do so love how you try to distract people from the fact that you have no real point or factual basis for any of your opinions by attempting to pick apart my grammar. And failing, no less! Please tell me it didn't take you five whole days to think up that response.

I did clarify. No one but you had a problem understanding what I said. That means the problem's with the reader, not the author.

And please, do not insult my intelligence. You're a notorious well-poisoner. It's just what you do. We've fought too often for me to not recognize an attempt to turn lurkers against me based on a misrepresentation of my opinion as exactly that.

I figured if you could try and pick on Philomel's way of wording things that I could as well ^^. Just making a point was all.

hey what's being talked about now this is wierd.

Molly, please try to post on-topic in the debate threads please. :yes: Your post could be considered spam, so I'm just giving you a heads-up. Thank you!