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Wavi 08-04-2010 01:00 AM

Whatever the Hell Seridano and Wavi Feel Like B!tchin About Today
 
Whatever the Hell Seridano and Wavi Feel Like B!tchin About Today

That's right folks, it's time for the two of us to come together and post our thoughts about debates and other such things. Topics we shall be debating in here cover a wide range. Feel free to shout out your thoughts about what we have to discuss.


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Sarcasm and Technology
Sarcasm, the Double-Edged Sword
Technology and How It Can Hurt Relationships
Online Relationships
Txt VS Talk
RAGING Hormones


Seridano and Wavi are the lords of this thread.
This thread was created purely to blow off steam and rant/vent about issues we are facing.
❥ Pitching in and helping move the discussion is more than welcome!
Your opinion does matter (doesn't mean we care though).
Things in here could get ugly, so we apologize in advance.
Sarcasm will most likely be used, and often.
It is recommended that sarcastic comments be posted in the color "Olive" as it will help prevent any unwanted heated replies.
Have fun and please enjoy!

Seridano 08-04-2010 01:17 AM

`reserved!

Wavi 08-04-2010 11:35 AM

Reserved Numero Dos
-- Terms and Meaning --


Now what is Sarcasm?
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The "witty" use of statements which clearly mean the opposite of what they say.

Wavi 08-04-2010 07:43 PM

Okay, who here HATES sarcasm?
Not me. I love it. It's my second language, however, when I'm txting or typing people NEVER seem to get it. I've used it on guys I've liked and then turn around and tell me to "EFF OFF" (they were meaner). Now why would they do that when I'm just being a tease? Oh. Wait. That sarcastic comment I made was read into the wrong way and now it's led to WWIII. Great. Just great. I usually give up on the guy at this point. If he has no sense of humor and HONESTLY think I'm cheating on him with (Matt Bomer an actor), then he's clearly not worth my time. Right? Well, maybe. Who knows. I do know I push A TON of people away because of my foreign language known as sarcasm.

How about you? What's your take on sarcasm? Been burned by it? Or does everyone know you've got SARCASTIC stamped on your forehead?

Deidara 08-04-2010 08:19 PM


Sarcasm and written word don't blend at all. There's no tone of voice to accompany and show that what was meant was a joke. Many people use it as a way out too, when they say something offensive and demeaning to other people, they defend saying the wrong thing by saying it was sarcasm. Often, these people are thought of as the person with sarcastic stamped on their head. Also, sarcasm doesn't seem to add anything to an intelligent conversation, as it has no merit, except sometimes with friends.

una 08-04-2010 08:21 PM

People tolerate sarcasm to different degrees really. It's a personal preference like different types of coffee or tea. I don't mind as long as it is clever and used in moderation. Lame sarcastic remarks are painfully dull and I do not do dull.

Wavi 08-04-2010 08:54 PM

I agree! There is a tolerance level for sarcasm. Mine are either obvious all due thanks to gesturing such as eye rolling or attempting not to laugh while speaking or they are a little more cryptic. I completely agree with the fact that you should do it around friends, especially those that know you like to joke (somehow I managed to be the 'entertainer' in my group of friends). Sarcasm around the naked mind as in those unfamiliar with you, is typically just asking for trouble.

Written sarcasm. Now that should be labeled as sarcasm, and yet we all do it (if you don't, I'm officially impressed)! Sometimes it is intentional, other times it's purely accidental.

Another thing with sarcasm is knowing the person. For example, my brother doesn't get sarcasm. If I say, "Oh yes, I'd love a cup of coffee" while rolling my eyes and walking away, he would really pour me a cup of coffee despite my non-verbal cues. Same thing goes for txting. I tend to add an 'lol' or 'XP' or even "=P" at the end of a witty sarcastic reply. Some people don't get the lol and tongue smiles as meaning "just kidding!"

Wavi 08-09-2010 02:57 PM

What are you thoughts on...
Online Relationships
...are they good, bad, the best, bound to fail, etc?

Mingnon 08-09-2010 09:46 PM

I kind of feel iffy about online relationships, if you mean it by the whole two people in love thing. Sure, it'd be nice to meet someone from far away, as helped by dating sites, but that's where the 'online' part should end. I've heard of people even getting married online, and to say, I don't think marriages online would work out. Especially in MMOs, which is where I'm trying to get to. The fact that MMOs want to cash in on weddings and then offer incentives like boosts and the like is pretty outrageous.

Philomel 08-10-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mingnon (Post 1768037617)
The fact that MMOs want to cash in on weddings and then offer incentives like boosts and the like is pretty outrageous.

I dunno, I think any attempt at de-mystifying marriage is a good thing. In real life, marriage doesn't necessarily mean anything other than a bunch of rights you and your spouse get that they wouldn't have otherwise, no matter how romantic and all-around awesome their relationship. Which is sort of like what they're doing, is it not?

Anywho, as to the topic, I think relationships that happen to start online are just fine. I wouldn't do it myself, but several studies have shown that relationships struck up online are actually more likely to be successful than ones started offline, largely because the anonymity of talking over the internet makes a lot of people more honest about who they are (at least on an emotional/mental level), whereas if you met in, say, a bar or something, the bullshitting would begin immediately and then both you and your partner end up involved with someone whom they're not really attracted to. So I see nothing wrong with it. I do think that relationships that are strictly online are somewhat unhealthy. I've had several friends who've been involved in online relationships and when they eventually broke up, they were way more traumatized than they probably would have been otherwise. When we're not around a person a whole lot, we tend to deify them. We only see their good side, so we think they're perfect and wonderful and, in the case of romantic relationships (involving monogamists, of course), they're "the one". So a break-up can be world-ending. This is only magnified if you've never actually -met- them, you've only spoken to them through the filter that is the backspace button.

x_cannibalisticcows 08-10-2010 05:09 PM

I'm not one to bunch things together, but as a whole I'm against online relationships. I've seen people get obsessed over them. [To the point that, after I forcefully turned of the computer twice[This is after giving them multiple warnings that it was time to get off], I've had to drag them upstairs to spend time with their best friend on her birthday. All because she wanted to 'say goodbye' to her online boyfriend.]

And, as easy as it is to be open with someone you don't actually know, it is also just as easy to bullshit everything you say online. So, for strictly online relationships - I think they're a joke. Kudos to those who are 'happy' with them, and for those who actually get together in real life... But they are not my cup of tea.

Keyori 08-10-2010 06:32 PM

I have several online relationships. Currently, I've not met any of them in person. I have in the past, though.

I tend to make better friends online I suppose.

As for romantic relationships... Well, we've seen eHarmony and OKCupid and a bazillion other dating sites. As long as you're not buying brides from Russia, or teens sending naked pictures to each other, I don't see a problem with it. It's up to those people to put themselves through it.

Wavi 08-10-2010 08:11 PM

My thoughts
I do agree, on some level, with all of you. Dating online is a nice way to remove the awkward silence and other such communication barriers. However, I also see it as a problem. People can read into you wrong. Or at least they do with me. If I'm IMing a guy I like that I met on (let's say Menewsha), he might get the idea that I'm online 24/7 and that I'll always be IMing him. This isn't the case. Here's my real example...
I met this sweetheart at a grad party. His grad party. I ended up discovering that I had his number prior to actually meeting him (my brother and he are friends). We started txting and stuff. We did that A LOT. He more or less believed that I was going to txt him nonstop like that every day. WRONG! When I suddenly stopped txting him all the time, he got pissed at me. It's gone down hill since then.
This isn't a true online relationship example per say, but still, other than meeting him once, it's all been an online relationship. Another thing that got all messed up with it was sarcastic remarks. He was furious me when I would say things like "Oh yeah, so I was making out with Itachi today." Not only does he know the anime, he knows that Itachi isn't real, and yet he still got pissed when I was clearly being funny/sarcastic.

I guess 'legit' sites like eHarmony and such are okay, but I don't think a 100% online relationship is possible. At some point, you'll have to meet one another and that's when the real relationship starts. Online/txting relationships are more of a means of communicating and 'getting to know someone better.' But I don't believe they should be the bases for a real relationship. Now if this was webcaming and talking on the phone, I would think otherwise. But when it's pure text, then no. I would say that such relationships are not going to go very far.

Regarding people who are addicted to their online 'lover,' I pretty much laugh. I get like that, yes. I find it awesome that some really is there for me. But, after about a week, my brain goes, "WTF are you thinking~ You have no idea what this person is really doing." It's true. You really don't. You're not there. Makes it rather hard to know if he's really being loyal or if he's really out at the doctor's and not screwing some random chick.

Fabby 08-10-2010 09:53 PM

I always thought online relationships were fairly ridiculous. After actually being in an online relationship, I find them even more ridiculous. Everything went really well when it was just online, we got along really well and we liked each other and whatnot... and then we actually met, in person. It was about a half hour after we met that I realized this person and I had no chemistry in person whatsoever. I found myself incredibly irritated and mildly grossed out by... well, most everything he did. Obviously after he got home all I could think about was how he actually was, and we broke up shortly afterward. The only conclusion I can possibly come to is that no, no you cannot really know someone just from the internet. You can't have intimacy over a wireless connection. It just isn't nearly as close or real as anything in real life is, dare I say.

Wavi 08-11-2010 12:12 PM

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You can't have intimacy over a wireless connection.
Ha ha ha! By far the best I have ever read! But gawd, that sucks. I guess it's a good thing you eventually met so you could cross him off your list. Better late than never! ^_^


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