I see topics about abortions pro and con but I never see topics about girls&women who thing they have to make thier own village. Yes I do know a few that have had or is in the process. Some of them were quite sexy in school and I had encounters with them. What I want to know is when is there to many and why do they think they need to make more humans? Are they lacking real love? Or they just like to overburden everyone else?

You know, I agree. There is no reason for someone to have 18 kids. I think anything over four is selfish because there is no way you can pay attention and give every one of those kids emotional needs they need from a parent. I also do not think that I should have to pay for things just because someone's religion doesn't support birth control. I think that I should have a say where my money goes and I do not want it to go to people that create their own problems. It is not selfish of me to not want to support people like that because they do have a choice whether or not to bring another child they can't afford into the world or they could just close their damn legs.

I'm really not sure what you're referring to. I'm assuming you mean women who have more than the average number of children?

If that's the case, there are a lot of reasons. The first is attention -- in our society, the most respected role a woman can have is that of a mother. For women who are in a favourable financial and family situation, the attention they get during pregnancy and in the months after childbirth are likely the most positive they've ever gotten (the feedback isn't nearly as nice if they are in a less favourable position). There's also pressures. Social pressures (big families used to be the norm, remember), religious pressure, and pressure from family/friends/SOs can all convince a woman to have more children than she is capable of caring for or wants. Then there's the matter of access to contraceptives and willingness to use them.

And all that aside, maybe they just want to? It's not particularly logical to have children period, but most who are able to do, and while pressures to reproduce are certainly a factor, by and large, they have children because they want to. Much as I would prefer it if more people would adopt rather than reproducing, I don't really think people should have to have a justification for their chosen lifestyles.

Also, I really don't care for you describing human beings as "baby mills". I assume you're referencing "puppy mills", in which case, the operation is the mill, not the mother dogs, and it's a really inappropriate comparison anyway.

Mystic: We do not get to choose where our tax dollars go. I would much prefer my money go to someone like the Octomom than wars or supporting the death penalty.

Thank you Mystic. I remember one girl had 9 kids at last count. I agree close or at least tell thier husbands not tonight. Then again sometimes I think it's the guy wanting to control the girl. I remember my former girlfriend got hooked up with an idiot that resembled and made the Frankenstein Monster look intelligent. As for the girl with the 9 kids she kinda liked it and had a wild streak as wide as the Pacific.