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Oh wow, a discussion that I actually have studied very thoroughly! I just wish I could gather up all the information I had on it. It is somewhat unfortunate that people are forced to behave a certain way when they are, for a lack of a better word, wired to be something completely different. They are mostly forced into it, because the person who is doing the forcing has a lack of understanding what exactly is going on inside the brain of the person. For example, transgenders. If I remember correctly, there is a lot of scientific evidence that supports the reason why some boys feel like they are actually girls and vice versa. Though, these remain in theory because there are always exceptions.
This post wasn't as helpful or contributing as I had hoped it would be, seeing as I can't find the link to the video I had seen on this subject. Sorry. :( |
@Presley: That's okay. If you wanna do a big informative post, you always have time to get your thoughts together, and find your video and everything. That's one of the lovely things about the internet and all. :)
All: I was recently in an argument with someone who felt the need to say that gender roles were completely natural because Chimpanzees had the same ones we do. I pointed out that bonobos have the opposite gender roles, and are virtually the same species. He just stared at me like I had turned purple. |
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I love that look. I have to try really hard not to laugh if I'm in a debate or argument with someone, bring up a very logical point, and it just completely floors them. Or even when it happens in a debate between others I happen to be watching. Sometimes they look like they're about to start spluttering. And then sometimes they do. |
I like the stupefied double blink you get. lol.
And when you make the point about something like gender that most people think is so simple it just completely floors people. |
@ The talk about writing and characters, I write almost always from a male point of view. All of my characters that I am really attached to are male (Kiyoshi, Shiane, Nicolas and Alexander) and most of the female characters I create are there just to support the males. But I never write from their point of view. I always write as Kiyo or Shiane, or Nicolas or Xander. My only female character that I've created that I write about often is Miciah, but a lot of the stories about her aren't told from her PoV, but rather from the PoV of the man that she loves.
So I guess that's a bit odd, since I know most women write as female characters. :P |
I write both.
I've written a lot of males, but I wouldn't exactly call all of them "manly men." Though my main two that I love to write are both male, one is completely insane, and the other is... well he's a jerk to put it mildly. The females I generally write are strong, and strong willed, and usually built curvy as opposed to super skinny. I never write my girls dumb, though crazy is fun to write regardless of sex or gender. Erin is my favorite girl to write... I'm not sure why. She's just my favorite. lol. |
Miciah is in that category. She's an elf who fights with a staff or scythe and casts spells with wind. She was created for a Tales of Symphonia fanfiction. :lol:
And then I just kind of ran with her. Someone did art of her for me on Mene, a while back, but I can't find it. :( Nicci and Xander are gay; Nicci is a vampire and Xander is a hunter, but they're partners. Kiyoshi and Shiane have evolved a lot in the past 2 1/2 years. XD Kiyoshi is gay, and Shiane loves him, but there's a woman from his past who he still loves, and she's not dead like he thinks she is. Its complicated. :drool: My characters tend to be either awesome kick ass women, or possibly gay men. :lol: |
I used to write from a female point of view ALL the time, but now it's kind of half and half, depending on what I'm writing. The novel I'm working on is from a male's POV so right now that's what I'm writing the most of. My characters are...everything. o_O I roleplay with my girlfriend a lot - almost every day for the last five years. Between the roleplay and my own work, I have literally hundreds of characters stashed away, though naturally some a lot more developed then others. I do have a lot of gay men, though. I half blame that on my girlfriend's love of yaoi. When we were first doing this it far surpassed mine. :lol: |
An interesting thing one of my friends brought up today.
Apparently in some tribes in the far east and Africa there are more than two recognized genders. One group even has five different ones. I find this terribly interesting, and I wonder if there's one that fits me. lol. |
Research it? :O
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I don't remember what they were called. XD Otherwise I totally would, however I'm sure google could help me with this... google knows... google always knows. O.o
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Google knows what you're thinking at this very moment.
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Probably since I'm thinking the lyrics to a song playing off of youtube. lol.
(Google owns Youtube... just for the three people in the world who didn't know.) Regardless I'll probably stick to my rather anti gender in general stance. |
Gender diversity is very important to me. I think that it should be taught to accept people as people and not by how society expects them to act. I'm gender neutral. I get mistaken as a male then other times people mistake me as a female. It does bother me when people refer to me as "her" or "him". It's hard to explain.
I work at a McDonalds and refuse to use the terms "girl" or "boy" toys. I ask what toy the person would like depending on what we carry. I also have another associate that does the same thing since she also thinks that toys shouldn't have gender assignments. She started doing it after I was asked why I never said "boy" or "girl" toy. The way I see it, boys can play with dolls if they want and girls can play with trucks. @sarofset: I heard the thing about five or more genders being assigned in tribes but I can't for the life of me remember which ones it was. Now I'm going to have to find those articles that I came across on them. |
I don't mind being called him or her. I cared a while back, but now it just doesn't bother me.
The way I see it people are who they are, not what they are. you know? |
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i for one find stereotypes offensive. like just because im a girl doesnt mean i have to wear makeup and perfume and dresses and talk about boys and clothes and shoes and belong to a clique. i can have guy friends, talk about whatever i want and be myself and refuse to wear anything besides jeans and a t shirt. come on people... this is the 21st century and this is america (where i live anyway)
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Those terms get used a lot but in an entirely different context. Though I've never had a problem with categorisation as long as people understand that there will be many that deviate from it.
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@the people talking about a culture with several genders-
You wouldn't happen to be talking about the Bimin-Kuskusmin of West Sepik, Papa New Guinea? |
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