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kimu 04-07-2007 02:52 AM

It sure is overrated.

I mean, you gotta have kinda both beautys or else youll have trouble dating, in my opinion.

Although looks arnt all men want. So I guess a person with a good persionality and just a little make up is a good example, right?

Teh Linh 04-07-2007 05:41 AM

Seriously. XD!

Gawd, especially those darn Dove commericals. I mean, I'm all for it.

But when you have people that are obese and etc, that's UNHEALTHY, and so it makes it seem like they're saying it's okay to be obese, it's okay not to get any excercise, it's okay to eat until you're stomach is about to explode. AS LONG AS YOU FEEL BEAUTIFUL. XD I mean, they don't mention any of the health risks involved with that, such as high cholesterol, and whatever the heck there is, because I know there are a lot more risk factors.

everytime, i swear, it makes me laugh. But that's just with the part of their ads that have to do with weight. I mean, the others, I'm all for.
It's okay to have marks, like freckles, or whatever, here and there. Some more then others. It's okay to have a crooked nose, lopsided fingers, uneven-sized eyes, etc. But not to the point where it's unhealthy, like the whole "weight" part. That just really irks me. DX

wish 04-07-2007 12:54 PM

  • i still think no matter what people tend to warm up to the person that is beautiful first. i think it's just a natural instinct to go and be friendlier to someone that's more pleasing to the eye and someone that you like MORE off the bat. It's not what i think should happen but i believe that happens. o_O; though beautiful people do get pummeled because people are like "oh you're beautiful you don't have to work for anything" i think there are always two sides but i still think people tend to lean toward beautiful people rather than plain/ugly people. ><

Your Imaginary Friend 04-07-2007 02:18 PM

I don't really try to limit myself to "outer beauty, inner beauty". Some people will have both, or just one, or neither. I think that inner beauty is more important than outer beauty, but that doesn't mean that someone with outer beauty doesn't have inner beauty as you mentioned. I don't limit myself by thinking, "Well, this person is pretty, so they must be horrible..." I try to get to know them and figure it out for myself.

Also, I've now said beauty so much that it doesn't sound like a real word anymore.

poet`s playground 04-07-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Teh Linh
Seriously. XD!

Gawd, especially those darn Dove commericals. I mean, I'm all for it.

But when you have people that are obese and etc, that's UNHEALTHY, and so it makes it seem like they're saying it's okay to be obese, it's okay not to get any excercise, it's okay to eat until you're stomach is about to explode. AS LONG AS YOU FEEL BEAUTIFUL. XD I mean, they don't mention any of the health risks involved with that, such as high cholesterol, and whatever the heck there is, because I know there are a lot more risk factors.

everytime, i swear, it makes me laugh. But that's just with the part of their ads that have to do with weight. I mean, the others, I'm all for.
It's okay to have marks, like freckles, or whatever, here and there. Some more then others. It's okay to have a crooked nose, lopsided fingers, uneven-sized eyes, etc. But not to the point where it's unhealthy, like the whole "weight" part. That just really irks me. DX


I have a friend who's obese, and she eats healthier than I do, she gets plenty of exercise and is always on diets, but because of the representation that only thin people are beautiful she has a very very low self esteem and feels like she's looked upon as a lesser being :/. Fat jokes and people saying that she must stuff her face all the time don't help.

@Your Imaginary Friend: Yeah, I know what you mean... personally, as far as my attraction to people, if I think someone's attractive, and then find out they're an ass, they no longer seem to appear attractive to me, no matter how sexy I thought they were before. On the same token, if I don't necessarily find someone to be sexy, but I find out they're a good person with attractive personal qualities (interests, attitude, outlook, opinions, etc.) I suddenly find them that much more attractive. In that sense, inner and outer beauty are very linked for me.

Baja 04-07-2007 10:55 PM

I think both have their place, thoguht I lean more towards inner beauty and the person's personality. I think that is what a person shoul be judged by. Though, with the whole first impression thing there is alot that people base solely on how the person looks, carries themselves, and what not. Now, don't get me wrong, if I see two people, one that looks as though they haven't showered in their life, with messy hair / clothes, adn the other that has a mere scar on their face or something, I'll go talk to the scarred person all day.

dorellana 04-09-2007 04:55 AM

in my opinion i doubt inner beauty is what guys look at now adays Dx it seems they care about what you look on the outside than what you are inside. we all have organs and stuff inside and thats what they think so i think its one of those things that they just say so you feel better


i'm not saying they all are the same but most guys care more about the outer looks than what we think and speak Dx

sure that dove commerical is suppose to make us feel special XD but its al lies so we buy their hair product Dx

then again i do use their deodrant XDDDD

DeniedUltraSex 04-09-2007 07:47 AM

Hmmmm, I guess I can understand where you're coming from.
People judge me, just because I'm a little over average looking.
Not the best, but cute I'd like to say...

I like am some loser who sits in my basement all the time, and I have few friends.
And rumors about me circulate like I actually go to parties or something... O_o''

Very messed up.

Anyways, I do believe in inner beauty.
It's not overrated.
It's true.

We all judge so what's the point?


When we find some one who can attract us with their personality we usually don't care what they look like. <333

I've fallen for three guys, all pretty average... ^_^''
When you like compare them to Brad Pit and all. Or Leo.
But seriously, love is blind.

gato 04-09-2007 10:35 PM

I personally think both are important; however, society places a bit more value on outer beauty. Inner beauty is called inner beauty for a reason because it's difficult to see; how can you claim that someone is "beautiful on the inside" if you don't know them personally (or had a chat with said person)? It's much easier to judge someone based on physical attractiveness. And we all judge people, so... yeah. (I'm not going to get into that debate.)

Anywhoo, inner beauty is much harder to see. It takes a very, very long time to see, sometimes, in some people. Some people are beautiful on the inside; however, we never realize it because their personas are cold/standoff-ish.

And being beautiful on the outside has some value, too. C'mon. Take a look, for example, at Gaia avatar signatures. Have you noticed that the most popular members are those who are the prettiest (or, at least, far as the GD forum goes)? Outer beauty is important in the sense that it does get you somewhere in life. (Of course, inner beauty ensures that you stay there, but outer beauty makes it a lot easier to go where you want to go.) x3;;

And I would never date someone I'm not attracted to physically. The chemistry/lust/passion just isn't there if I don't feel like I'm not attracted to the person's physical looks. They could be the sweetest guy in the world; however, I'm probably going to be like, ".... Uh. I like you as a friend .... " because I just don't feel an attraction to them. Catch my drift?

And inner beauty is a tad overrated. People have exploited it to beyond reason: note the popularity of Ugly Betty. I LOVELOVELOVE that show, but I can't help but laugh when it has the slogan of "Be Ugly" or something like that. <<;; Or when the media exploits the tag of "inner beauty" to pump up sales or "connect with the marketing audience". Inner beauty shouldn't be a marketing tool! It's special... because it takes an actual connection with a person to realize his/her inner beauty.

Neh. Anywhoo, that's my two cents on the topic. Please excuse the grammatical errors. x3;

Em Hajee 04-09-2007 10:50 PM

Both matter. It's fine if you don't think so, but we are all at least a little bit superficial.

Outer Beauty is something people see right off. It's what you show yourself as.

Inner Beauty is what people who know you well, understand and appreciate.

Outer Beauty is not just big lips, it's how you act right off. It's first impression material.

ObeyGravity 04-13-2007 07:23 AM

When it boils down to it, inner and outer beauty both serve their own level of importance when it comes to day to day social interaction, including jobs and relationships. If you walk into a serious job looking like the worst thing on the planet, people are going to assume you're the worst thing on the planet, even if you're the sweetest person anyone could ever ask to know. However, being in a relationship with someone who's physically attractive but has nothing going for them emotionally and or mentally will result in a quickly ended relationship unless you really, really, really like to have sex.

Jennger 04-13-2007 07:33 AM

I agree with Em Hajee, outer beauty is how people know starting off if they're attracted to you.Inner beauty is something that you have to actually give the person a chance to show you.AND I agree that people with outer beauty can have it hard. I know a lot of pretty girls who don't get approached by men because the men don't want to be rejected/don't think they have a chance.

Tagia 04-13-2007 10:11 AM

I'd rather be with someone who had just inner beauty than someone who had just outer beauty. So for me inner beauty is far more important. Sure, there are certain looks that I find more attractive but I'm realistic and I tend to differentiate the people I physically lust after from the people whose personalities I could fall in love with (unless both happened to overlap) because to me I would not want to waste my time going out with someone who I ended up hating or treated me badly just because I thought they had nice hair or something - because in the end that hair will not be so beautiful.

In society I think we are told that outer beauty is important - and I actually believe that it is that which is over-rated - but the reason that we are fed the idea that outer beauty is important is because inner beauty is not marketable.

jellysundae 04-13-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by P o i P o i i i
Outer beauty fades and inner beauty stays with you until you're gone.

What's the use of good physical attributes if your inner attributes aren't that good?

so true..

Beauty is a transient thing, even more so because it trully is in the eye of the beholder. what appears lovely to one person, is disgusting to another.

the inner/outer beauty thing has a different ratio fer everyone.

a girl i used to work with for example i'd put her at 25:75 on my inner/outer beauty scale, because she was pretty and knew it, she used it to manipulate people and was a complete bitch a lot of the time.

but i have met deliciously pretty people, who aren't the least bit affected by their looks and are genuinely lovely people.

also ugly people who have an extremely unpleasant personality too, who i am quite sure, if they made the effort to be a bit nicer, would look better too, everyone looks more attractive with a smile on their face.

and again, unattractive people who don't let that hold them back, and are fun, happy people to be around.

it's all down to you, how you think and feel about yourself. Also, how you were treated as a child has a huge effect on your personality as you get older.

but the old addage about never judging a book by its cover is never more true than when it comes to judging people by their looks.

Chemicat 04-13-2007 07:39 PM

There is nothing wrong with outer beauty, but without inner beauty, no matter WHAT you look like... you will be ugly to me. I really don't understand how people can be so shallow to ONLY associate with those who are physically attractive... what's the point? Shouldn't relationships be based on connections, trust, common interests... :/

Tagia 04-13-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jellysundae
Quote:

Originally Posted by P o i P o i i i
Outer beauty fades and inner beauty stays with you until you're gone.

What's the use of good physical attributes if your inner attributes aren't that good?

so true..

Beauty is a transient thing, even more so because it trully is in the eye of the beholder. what appears lovely to one person, is disgusting to another.

the inner/outer beauty thing has a different ratio fer everyone.

a girl i used to work with for example i'd put her at 25:75 on my inner/outer beauty scale, because she was pretty and knew it, she used it to manipulate people and was a complete bitch a lot of the time.

but i have met deliciously pretty people, who aren't the least bit affected by their looks and are genuinely lovely people.

also ugly people who have an extremely unpleasant personality too, who i am quite sure, if they made the effort to be a bit nicer, would look better too, everyone looks more attractive with a smile on their face.

and again, unattractive people who don't let that hold them back, and are fun, happy people to be around.

it's all down to you, how you think and feel about yourself. Also, how you were treated as a child has a huge effect on your personality as you get older.

but the old addage about never judging a book by its cover is never more true than when it comes to judging people by their looks.

Not to look like I'm searching for sympathy or pity here, but for a lot of my childhood I was not treated very well by the people around me. My family where fine it was just all the kids at school, I didn't have a real friend until I was 13, and only now am I really getting over that and realising that though I may not be beautiful or have the best fashion sense I'm still worthy for who I am inside - and people are now grown up enough to see that. <3 Which probably tainted my views on this subject actually. xD

jellysundae 04-13-2007 08:02 PM

Tagia i'm in much the same position as you, i was an unwanted child, neglected by my mother, the only time she really paid attention to me was when she was hitting me.
i had no friends at school really, i used to hang around with people, but they were often prety mean to me. for good reason really, my Mum gave them plenty of ammo, horrible clothes to wear, she used to make me wear her old shoes to school, i was bullied mercilessly about those, she wouldn't let me shave my legs, i had horrible free national health glasses and goofy teeth, an obvious moustache. plus she used to trim my fringe along the top of my glasses, just to help me look even worse.
i used to get called ugly all the time :(
but now i'm an adult and in charge of how i look myself! and my inner beauty has had a chance to stretch its wings and fly.
letting go of how you were treated as a child and teen is a lot of what growing up is all about, finding out who you really are is an enlightening journey 8)

Menstrual Cramps 04-13-2007 08:17 PM

Ah, this is a big debate, even today.
Inner beauty is dead to a lot of people, it's about looks for the most part which is sad to hear and know. You see it constantly in magazines and such, even though they try to tell you "it's what is on the inside that counts." Models say it all the time. (yeah, like we're going to listen to it..)

I believe that outer beauty can be pretty, but if that person talks and all I hear is garbage- they are ugly on the outside to me as well.
I can't stand 'pretty' people who have no personality or people skills. It makes them just a manican. (spelling?)

It's sad that these types of people are glorified though.
People who can't sing, but are part of a trend. (I could use countless emo/ska band boys as examples)
People who are morally wrong, but publicized constantly. (Paris Hilton)
Idols gone bad. (Christina Agularia, Brittney -- I use to like them when I was younger.)

:(

Tagia 04-13-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jellysundae
Tagia i'm in much the same position as you, i was an unwanted child, neglected by my mother, the only time she really paid attention to me was when she was hitting me.
i had no friends at school really, i used to hang around with people, but they were often prety mean to me. for good reason really, my Mum gave them plenty of ammo, horrible clothes to wear, she used to make me wear her old shoes to school, i was bullied mercilessly about those, she wouldn't let me shave my legs, i had horrible free national health glasses and goofy teeth, an obvious moustache. plus she used to trim my fringe along the top of my glasses, just to help me look even worse.
i used to get called ugly all the time :(
but now i'm an adult and in charge of how i look myself! and my inner beauty has had a chance to stretch its wings and fly.
letting go of how you were treated as a child and teen is a lot of what growing up is all about, finding out who you really are is an enlightening journey 8)

Oh man, that's terrible. :( Believe me I did not go through anything that bad. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for you to realise that you're not ugly and you can have friends and be worthy, though for most of your life you've been told you're not. It's this sort of thing that the obsession with outer beauty does not help.

Flying Wings 04-14-2007 02:44 AM

Everybody becomes beautiful and will be beautiful in a way. But the greatest prize is to be beautiful on the inside. ^^ Outer beauty is nice but nobody will really like you if you're not nice right?

Jedi Master 04-25-2007 03:18 AM

I personally dont believe in the whole inner beauty outter beauty thing....the majority of the population is judgemental in someway. Seriously, more pretty people get dates than ugly people, and thats all that there is too it!

angel_of_joy 04-25-2007 03:32 AM

i think outer beauty is just a mask for what really happens. whats inside a person can be really ugly sometimes and sometime outer beauty really plays to that. some people get so full of themselves for looking good that they can be really mean or just not even fun to be around. i think you can't judge a book by its cover. get to know people. you may be pleasantly surprised.

kaptain kooky 04-25-2007 06:07 AM

You need them both to survive in this world. I grew up very akward looking and well I was quite "ugly" so I hung out with people who just accepted me for who I am. Now that I haven'tmatured and grown into my looks I am a very beautiful young woman and I can say that and I know I'm not being shallow I'm allowed to compliment myself.

Before I grew into my looks I would always go job hunting and I would have expierance or I would be better fitted for the job, but I wouldn't get it and when I saw the girl who got it generally it was always a girl with nice pretty hair, a large chest, tiny stomach, and basically a mini bombshell. I didn't get my first job until I was almost 19 years old and that is sad.

When I meet people of course how they look matter when it comes to love, but when I meet someone just to talk to I don't care how they look. I have friends who are considered "beautiful" by todays standards and I have friends who are considered "ugly" by most people but one the inside all my friends are just awesome. Some were just blessed with looks that you need to really be accepted into some crowds. I wasn't accepted when I was younger, but as I got older I'm more accepted into to groups of the "pretty people" and they actually don't mind giving me the time of day.

As for PInk saying girls into fashion are dumb you totally missed the message of that song. She doesn't want girls to become "Stupid Girls" like Paris Hilton and the Olsen Twins and Linsey Lohan. She believes girls today don't have good role models in the media. We just have girls that are popular because they are pretty and act well really retarded. We need real people for our little girls to look up to, not some girl getting out of a limo and look up her skirt to see her cooch O.O

xDark_Midnightx 04-26-2007 09:38 PM

Inner Beauty and outer
 
What's your opinion regarding the Inner beauty versus Outer Beauty?

I think that inner beauty is more important then how you look. You can be the ugliest (on the outside) but the most beautiful person in the inside, with a wonderful personality. I don't think others should be judged by their looks, instead, their personality. There are a lot of un-pop. ppl who are very nice...but they don't look that well so that they're ranked lowly.

Do you ever think that Inner beauty is so over rated and that people tend to become prejudice to people with Outer beauty?

No, Most of the people with outer beauty gets majority of it.
In our neighborhood, no one is like that. (question)

Tisiel 04-27-2007 12:27 AM

The outter beauty is a leftover from the dawn of time according to a huge number of studies done (please don't ask me to quote from where... it was on TV and I'd also learned about it in University. That's the best I can manage :P)

Basically, the more beautiful a woman is, the healthier and more prolific she's likely to be, and she's more likely to provide healthier children.
For men, the more handsom and rugged, the better providers and protetor they'll be.

If this is truely a leftover from man's earliest time, is it any wonder that we judge on that first, instinctively?

Inner beauty though, in my opinion, is something which developed with the dawn of reason. Poeple's looks, it was suddenly realised, was not a good reflection of their intelligence, personality or even their mental state. Intelligence has become a new, coveted form of beauty in it's own right.

That's why this huge debate exists at all... it's man trying to prove that he is more then just his instincts. That beauty, while all well and good, is not sufficient to define that person.


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