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Old 03-31-2007, 05:50 AM

The way I see it..parent-wise, though..is that if your two parents cared enough to raise you, you should be grateful, and happy that you're living in a loving home where even gender isn't a barrier.

That's like saying, "Russians shouldn't have children in America cause their children will be made fun of for their parent's funky accents.."

It's kind of a "wtf" for me, because nationality, gender, all that stuff is just part of a set of adjectives for a person. In this case it's a minor adjective, it isn't the only one and it isn't the defining one necessarily.

What WOULD bother me would be someone raised by ex convicts.. o.O' But even then..I dunno. If the ex convict were really seriously a good parent, then I dunno. I think it's hard to judge what is a good parent what isn't you know? And sexual preference isn't the determining factor by a long shot for parental abilities.

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Old 03-31-2007, 07:08 AM

I personally don't care one way or another. What people do on their own time is their business. However, that doesn't mean anyone's exempt from me ripping on them. I'm an equal opportunity hater. XD

I'm not fond of public affection in any way shape or form.

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#53
Old 03-31-2007, 07:16 AM

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What WOULD bother me would be someone raised by ex convicts.. o.O' But even then..I dunno. If the ex convict were really seriously a good parent, then I dunno. I think it's hard to judge what is a good parent what isn't you know? And sexual preference isn't the determining factor by a long shot for parental abilities.
Ex-cons can be very good parents. Just because you were in jail/prison does not mean you are a horrible person and will be a horrible parent.

I've known several people to be in the jail/prison system for foolish and idiotic things, such as for having marijuana on them or a DUI, not that a DUI is a minor thing, they just have learned from it, being the plus.

so, unless it was something serious, such as murder or rape/molestation, I see no reason for a convict not to have children. Along with you can not predict wether that child will be like the parents or not.

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#54
Old 03-31-2007, 10:02 AM

it really scares me to see how many people actually are against homosexuality.
well, to be honest, i was kinda homophobic when i was 14 or 15... but maybe that was because i was scared of my own bisexuality.
i am living together with my girlfriend for almost 3 years now and i would say we are a normal couple with normal problems and everything.
it's true that it is annoying to see people make out on the street...that's embarrassing to watch. however i would find it sad if i couldn't walk on the street with my girlfriend, holding hands. (but in my opinion, that's something else than totally making out...)
i think gay marriage is a good thing. i mean, married gay people don't hurt anyone by getting married, do they?
having children is something else, maybe...the child might have more problems with society than a child that is being raised by a father and a mother.
on the other hand.. i myself have been sexually abused in my family for many years. i suppose that wouldn't have happened if i had been raised by two women. i think that if i had a child with a man, i would always be afraid the father might hurt the child.

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Old 03-31-2007, 07:11 PM

I have no issues with homosexuality. I feel that love is love no matter if it's between a same sex couple or between a man and a woman. I definitely believe that same sex couples should have the right to be married as well. It's really not that different and I fail to see how it "defiles" the institution of marriage or anything like that.

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#56
Old 03-31-2007, 10:00 PM

/agrees with AkashaHeartilly & lucida

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Old 04-04-2007, 02:21 AM

Homosexuality, to me, is perfectly okay. It's none of my business whether someone is homosexual or not, and it isn't right for me to judge them based upon homosexuality. It does not dictate who they are, only who they like.

On the issue of gay marriage... I have a strong opinion about it. Homosexual people should get married, and in my opinion it's unconstitutional to ban it. If anyone really wants me to get down and dirty with quotes from the constitution that, in my opinion, basically say it's unconstitutional to ban gay marriage based on the fact that two people are the same gender, I will.

I also believe religion has no place at all in a gay marriage debate. Why?

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
That means I don't have to believe that homosexuality is a sin, because I don't have to believe in God or the bible. If one is free to not believe in that, then why should a right of one person be abridged because of another person's religion? It's fine if you think it's a sin to marry and all that stuff, but what isn't fine is to basically force your beliefs onto someone else. Anyways, that's only the tip of the iceberg- if anyone cares to debate with me, I'll gladly tango. :)

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#58
Old 04-05-2007, 09:48 PM

I have nothing, and will have nothing, against homosexuals. It just makes me a little more than mad to see people always shun other PERFECTLY NORMAL people just because of their sexuality. "OH, the Bible doesn't say that's the right way!" or whatever. No one has to believe in the Bible, and I for one, don't.

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#59
Old 04-05-2007, 11:37 PM

I have absolutely no problem with it - I am bisexual myself! ^_^

I know plenty of people who are very anti-homosexuality, probably because I live in a very conservative, Christian Indiana town. Great place for a liberal bisexual agnostic/pagan, huh? Anyway, it doesn't bother me right off if people are against it - my favorite teacher freely admits that he thinks it's wrong, but he doesn't care if people are or if they practice it, because he doesn't feel he has the right to stop them. He just doesn't want to see them. XD

I get kind of angry, though, at people who feel like they can limit the rights of people just because they love someone of their own gender, especially in America, a country founded on religious freedom. There is no good argument against same-sex marriage not based on the Bible. As a country where we have the right to believe as we wish, we can't be governed based on a book we don't all follow. My state's trying to pass a ban on gay marriage, and I am sooo angry about it.

This topic reminded me of how stupid I used to be. I'm really liberal, but I used to be such a hypocrite - I'd say people could believe what they wanted, but then I'd tell them they couldn't if they disagreed with me. I grew out of it, and I shudder looking back on how I was.

To sum it up: I have no problem with gays/bisexuals/whatever. I have no problem with people who do, unless they start using their problems to limit the rights of others.

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Old 04-06-2007, 02:14 AM

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There was this guy in my old school who was OBVIOUSLY homophobic (he even uses homophobic slurs!), and suddenly-- literally the next day-- he's saying he's claiming he's bisexual. Then he goes and flaunts it in my face, which makes me really doubt his sexuality. :\ He's all, "OH, did you know I like a boy? What do you think, Kris? I'm bisexual! I like boys! I even have a boyfriend! Y'know, I'm still dating my girlfriend, but I also have a boyfriend because my girlfriend let me have a boyfriend! I love my boyfriend so much! See, see, I really do have a boyfriend!"
Faux homophobia. I used to do that because I didn't want to let anyone know I was bi. I don't do it anymore now that most of my friends know. Though, I think a lot of people in the closet use it as a defense mechanism or a coping mechanism.

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Old 04-06-2007, 02:57 AM



I have no problem with homosexuality. I'm bisexual, though only my close friends know, and they had to ask. I usually don't divulge that kind of information not because I'm afraid really, but just because no one ever asked and I didn't know that they needed to know. It doesn't make me any less different knowing I like girls too does it? o.0 I mean, I don't go around saying, "Hi, my name is Donna and I'm bisexual." Just like I don't go around saying that I'm a mutt. People look at me and they assume. I don't care what they think though. Those who really know me and ask questions about me are the one's that truly know how I feel.
I used to be a little homophobic, not of lesbians, but of two men when I was young. I don't know why but it was just so odd to me because I symbolized men with dominance and wondered how two dominant males could cohesively work together. That and my mother was [and still is] a strict Christian. So I was always taught that it was wrong.
It's actually funny how many people are bisexual or homosexual though. I used to always see people as straight without thinking or asking and now it's as if at least one out of two friends I know are or have thought about homosexuality.
People really need to lighten up, both ways though. The strict religious people, and other opposers of homosexuality, need to be tolerable. And homosexuals need to also loosen up with those that oppose it since they [the opposers] were most likely never raised around it and it seems foreign and evil to them, they don't know better...hopefully they will though.

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#62
Old 04-06-2007, 04:47 AM

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I get kind of angry, though, at people who feel like they can limit the rights of people just because they love someone of their own gender, especially in America, a country founded on religious freedom. There is no good argument against same-sex marriage not based on the Bible. As a country where we have the right to believe as we wish, we can't be governed based on a book we don't all follow. My state's trying to pass a ban on gay marriage, and I am sooo angry about it.
I completely agree with you. It's surprising how America carries the banner of freedom so proudly, yet most people (present company excluded) will turn their backs to homosexuals and take away freedoms so unjustly.

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#63
Old 04-06-2007, 06:13 AM

That would be in part, thanks to our current idjiot president. -.-'

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#64
Old 04-06-2007, 06:28 AM

Well being bi I fully support gay marriage and have no issues. My parents are horribly homophobic and hate the idea of gays let alone their desire to be married. My parents still deny my being bi, and my sister is a lesbian though she hasn't bothered telling them yet.

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#65
Old 04-06-2007, 02:34 PM

No i have no problem with that.

Infact i would encourage it.

I see no logical reason in our modern day society why people should have to hide their sexuality and be refrained from getting married.

i think it's ridicolous when people say that homosexuals should not be able to get married because of the bible - plenty of people have non-religious weddings, and plenty of people get married in a church who aren't strong christians or don't believe in christianity.

Being bisexual myself, i can't understand why people are so uptight about homosexuality. I mean love is love right? :/


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Old 04-06-2007, 04:48 PM

Haha, well being straight myself, I still don't understand why so many people are so uptight about homosexuality.

At my school, well actually it's a national thing, we're going to have a Day of Silence, and we're going to wear t-shirts and such, hehe, and we're going to be silent for the whole day to symbolize the people who have to stay silent about their sexuality for fear of ridicule or ostracism, and then have a "breaking the silence" event like a big party, hehe.

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#67
Old 04-06-2007, 04:56 PM

Poet thats a great idea. :0

I'd beg my school to the same, but more then half the pupils and teachers at my school are homophobic, so i'm not sure it would work as well ha ha

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Old 04-06-2007, 05:35 PM

Well there are a lot of muslim students at our school, really, many of them homophobic, as well as the white kids who think "ew, gross! fags!" and it's quite disgusting. Though, I do think our school is pretty "gay-friendly". I mean, there are a lot of homosexual and bisexual students who are out and quite vocal about it, and most of the teachers don't mind it, etc. I think we're pretty lucky in that sense.

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Old 04-06-2007, 05:43 PM

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality at all.
I suppose I was lucky to be raised in a laid-back and almost liberal household as a child and because of that I have a very open mind about quite a few different walks of life.

It is my belief that homosexuality is not something 'unnatural' as some might argue. There have been many cases of apes documented engaging in homosexual activity as well. It is not unnatural for them because they don't have a concept of what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' (as far as we're aware). It is true that the only way to procreate is through male and female intercourse, however consider this: Nature has a way of taking care of all imbalances in the world. Humans are absolutely flooding the planet with overpopulation. Couldn't Homosexuality be Nature's way of making humans slow down? We really don't need any more people on the planet, and it's on it's decline as it is.

Also, I have a lot of friends and family members who are gay and I don't see or treat them any differently because of it. My cousin is probably the closest person to me in my entire family, and she is gay. She is still the most amazing person I know and she is someone who I look up to and aspire to be.

There is nothing wrong with Homosexuality. If you're a Bible Thumper and say that it's WRONG then think about this: The Bible says 'Judge not, lest ye be judged.' If you're so upset that these individuals are breaking the Rules, then let God deal with it on His terms. I'm sure He knows what He's doing.

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Old 04-06-2007, 06:01 PM

Yes, me and my closest friend sometimes get mistaken for a couple, and she lives hundreds of miles away XD and is straight! We're quite close though.
And my other friend who goes to my school is a lesbian, and she's also very physical XD I mean she snuggles and pets everyone, and I hang out with her a lot at school and I'm sure people think I'm a lesbian because of it, and we're going out, but I make sure to assert that I do in fact find guys attractive, and not girls!

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Old 04-06-2007, 11:23 PM

We actually I"m okay as long as it's not directed towards me. besides I don't like watching people do that to much(making out yelling it to the world every few minutes lots and lots of touching in public etc...)whether you are gay, straight, or bi.


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Old 04-06-2007, 11:46 PM

I don't have a problem with it. I consider myself bi because as corny as it sounds, I think there is a soulmate out there for me and I don't care if mine is male or female.
I also go to a liberal art college that has a huge LGBTQA (Lesbian Gay Bi Questioning Asexual) student population. One of the highest in the nation if I remember correctly. Students here are more open about having less sexual boundaries and it's nice to be able to act the way that you want to without being questioned or teased.

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Old 04-07-2007, 12:32 AM

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I don't have a problem with it. I consider myself bi because as corny as it sounds, I think there is a soulmate out there for me and I don't care if mine is male or female.
I also go to a liberal art college that has a huge LGBTQA (Lesbian Gay Bi Questioning Asexual) student population. One of the highest in the nation if I remember correctly. Students here are more open about having less sexual boundaries and it's nice to be able to act the way that you want to without being questioned or teased.
I think it is amazing that you school has that program. I think it would be healthy for Americans if more schools had programs like that. I'm sure there are a lot of individuals that may be too scared to talk to anyone about how they feel if they think there is a chance they will be ridiculed.
I'm bi-curious myself. [nods]

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Old 04-07-2007, 07:18 AM

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I don't have a problem with it. I consider myself bi because as corny as it sounds, I think there is a soulmate out there for me and I don't care if mine is male or female.
I also go to a liberal art college that has a huge LGBTQA (Lesbian Gay Bi Questioning Asexual) student population. One of the highest in the nation if I remember correctly. Students here are more open about having less sexual boundaries and it's nice to be able to act the way that you want to without being questioned or teased.
I think it is amazing that you school has that program. I think it would be healthy for Americans if more schools had programs like that. I'm sure there are a lot of individuals that may be too scared to talk to anyone about how they feel if they think there is a chance they will be ridiculed.
I'm bi-curious myself. [nods]
If your school does not have a GSA (Gay, Straight Alliance, which also includes everything mentioned in the person's above), then start one. By law yourschool has to allow it. I believe it is fedral law that if the school has other school sponsored clubs, it must allow GSA's. The worst your school can do is shut down all clubs and groups that are school sponsored because it does not approve of a GSA.

Got to http://www.glsen.org/ for help on setting up a GSA at your school.

You can also organize, and try and get people to do the "Day of Silience" I did it all 4 years in my high school, and I graduate 4 years ago. It is a wonderful thing, and I do not believe teachers can actually make you talk. Also, GSLEn might have some more information actually about it.

Also, do not forget National Coming Out Day is in october, I want to say the 19th?

I was part of a GSA all through high school. Mine was set up about 2 or 3 years before I got into high school in 1999. I was lucky to have a school that support us and many supportive teachers. My drama teacher support us, but never liked "The day of Silience" because it really changed class that day and most of the students were always doing it. We even had signs for the class rooms that said "No room for Homophobia" and teachers who had that in the classrooms actually inforced it. I had one teacher give a wonderful lecture about it when someone defaced the sign to make it say "No Room For Homos" and we were learning about WW2, so she included why the Gay Rights movement has the Triangles for the symbol in circulum.

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#75
Old 04-07-2007, 05:38 PM

Homosexuality is another of those very controversial issues that wouldn't be a problem if people could just mind their own business.

I personally have no problem with homosexuality. My only frustration with the entire situation is the growing habit of homosexuals to declare loudly and longly about their sexuality. Really, I don't care. I don't stand on the street corner, get on Jerry Springer, the evening news and everywhere else I go and force the fact that I'm straight on people. I deserve the same respect in return.

I think same-sex relationships, same-sex marriages & adoption by same sex couples is perfectly ok. One of my best friends growing up had 2 moms. I babysat for the woman who lived next door for my of my teenage years. She changed partners quite often, and never once was there a man in her house. Same-sex couple can be perfectly wonderful parents and I don't feel it causes any long lasting emotional damage. Kids need to be loved, they need to be taken care of. Regardless of your sex or your partner, you are perfectly capable of doing that.

But please, I don't want to hear about your sexual habits. I don't share mine, so don't share yours.

 


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