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poet`s playground 07-29-2007 10:32 PM

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White history month would be pointless - the rest of the history that we learn is quite pristinely white.

Would you mind reading the rest of thread, or even a few posts, before you post? =.=;; We've been over that stance millions of times, and every time it's been disproved.


I saw that it was brought up, yes.

Kris 07-29-2007 10:39 PM

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White history month would be pointless - the rest of the history that we learn is quite pristinely white.

Would you mind reading the rest of thread, or even a few posts, before you post? =.=;; We've been over that stance millions of times, and every time it's been disproved.


I saw that it was brought up, yes.

Alright, then, why did you bring it up?
If you go to European history, you're going to learn about white people. If you go to American history, you're going to learn about Native Americans, and then whit people, because Europeans settled here before any other immigrant race. If you go to African history, you'll learn about black people. If you go to Indian history, you'll learn about Indian people. If you go to Japanese history, you'll learn about Asian people. Do you get my point or do I need to go on?

Dust 08-24-2007 05:40 AM

But then people everywhere would kick and scream and claim that it was racist.

We have a problem with that, you know.

Nathuram 08-24-2007 01:16 PM

I haven't read through this thread. Oops.

White history month? We don't need a white history month. We have the daily news, the history channel, U.S. History classes, etc.

What you should be debating is having an Asian History month or something. They went through some stuff during WWII after Pearl Harbor. Where is their story!?

We should also have Latino History month :]

Really, though.. the minority groups tend to get annoyed (I'm not trying to generalize here) with the majority of the things in the U.S.A being dominantly white. Truth is, though.. white peoples may have killed native americans for their lands, and enslaved african americans for their growth.. but they fought tooth and nail for what they have now. You don't see blacks in the front line of the war against the British. We built this country. Non-American-born minorities are guests. It just so happens that America has enough hospitality to let you stay.

I'm not saying that minorities don't belong here, or that white people are superior.. I'm just saying that it's dominantly white for a reason; because white people created this nation. If I, an extremely white person, moved to South Africa, let's say, I don't think I would be asking for a white history period :]

ln(e) 09-10-2007 04:00 AM

I am all for equality. I am an equal opportunity offender. But in that I somehow get called racist.... Meh Humanity just sucks in general. Lets abolish all ethnic history whatevers and make "The great achievements of the rainbow of humanity." and "The great failures of the rainbow of humanity." Since whites have a large chunk of history dedicated to them in each half that sound fair.

Yeah 09-13-2007 08:12 PM

It's because our government is so busy sucking up to "minorities" that we aren't allowed to have a white anything.

woopdidoodoo 10-03-2007 01:06 PM

I think that we should be able to have a white persons month, it isn't fair that we get to miss out. Sure we celebrate when we took over what countries we took but hey that doesn't matter at all right? nah I don't think we should be able to have that really as it wasn't our original land to begin with and we shouldn't really feel proud for taking it. I am talking about Australia and other countries that were found and capitalized by white men. I hope I don't sound too harsh as I certainly do believe in rights, equality and what not but I just think that we have it pretty good as it is and why don't we just leave it at that, there are many cultures that are just plain forgotten about and that is quite sad.

Doomfishy 10-03-2007 04:31 PM

This thread reminds me of this cartoon:

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/images/concise.jpg

Sometimes white people take the concept of equality for granted and fail to realize that we still live in a society that very much favors whites. With the civil rights movement, we very abruptly accepted that all people are equal under the law - but that didn't immediately change the economic and social status of the previously oppressed minorities.

White history and achievement is broadcasted EVERYWHERE. Virtually every media outlet and political position is controlled by a white person.

Brain-Damnage 10-12-2007 03:35 AM

I don't think we need any racial history months. Though I also think it's unfair to say that whites don't deserve one because they're not "a race" or because that's what we study in school...are you saying because we've done all sorts of things for the development of the world, we shouldn't have a time to celebrate? Frankly, I've never opened a history book and "celebrated"...and I seem to remember reading plenty about African-Americans and Spaniards and all sorts of other races.

Just get rid of all these stupid months and eliminate the problem.

Brain-Damnage 10-12-2007 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathuram
I haven't read through this thread. Oops.

White history month? We don't need a white history month. We have the daily news, the history channel, U.S. History classes, etc.

What you should be debating is having an Asian History month or something. They went through some stuff during WWII after Pearl Harbor. Where is their story!?

We should also have Latino History month :]

Really, though.. the minority groups tend to get annoyed (I'm not trying to generalize here) with the majority of the things in the U.S.A being dominantly white. Truth is, though.. white peoples may have killed native americans for their lands, and enslaved african americans for their growth.. but they fought tooth and nail for what they have now. You don't see blacks in the front line of the war against the British. We built this country. Non-American-born minorities are guests. It just so happens that America has enough hospitality to let you stay.

I'm not saying that minorities don't belong here, or that white people are superior.. I'm just saying that it's dominantly white for a reason; because white people created this nation. If I, an extremely white person, moved to South Africa, let's say, I don't think I would be asking for a white history period :]

I don't think the daily news (on which, by the way, I see plenty of minorities) really measures up to having an entire month dedicated to shoving "great African-American figures" down our throats.

nike13 10-12-2007 03:48 AM

I'd prefer we didn't have any 'race/gender/sexual preference' history months because it just solidifies the segregation of people into different races.

I've never seen the benefit of having them just like I haven't seen much of a benefit for having Breast Cancer Awareness month. Its not making me more aware of breast cancer, its just making me notice how much people follow the crowd.

fuyumi_saito 10-21-2007 09:28 PM

I don't think we need a white history month, or a black history month. In school they do teach about Martin Luther King, Malcom X, about the slaves, the stories, the protests... They do that already in history class and sometimes in english class too. If we have black history month, then we should also have Native American history month. The Europeans did steal their land, and we don't get to learn barely anything about them. Everyone thinks they were red faced, had long hair, wore feathers(which some did, but not all of them..), and shot arrows. *is part native american so maybe that's why I think that...*, We should also then have Asian history month too. Since America did put them in camps for a little while, during the red scare. Also German history month. Same reason as before, they could be communist. I think we should be taught history from every cultures not just are own. Throw out the whole race month thing. It's pointless. In black history motnh, we learn about things we were already taught in history and english class(If you had to write a biography and do a report like my middle school class had to do. We also read a story by malcom X)There is no point in it anymore. I do find it unfair, because it excludes other races that have been mistreated.

themadhatter715 10-21-2007 10:49 PM

White people are afraid of being racist because everything we say turns into a racial issue with other races who are, in fact, far more racist than us.

AkashaHeartilly 10-21-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris
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Originally Posted by poet`s playground
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Originally Posted by Kris
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Originally Posted by poet`s playground
White history month would be pointless - the rest of the history that we learn is quite pristinely white.

Would you mind reading the rest of thread, or even a few posts, before you post? =.=;; We've been over that stance millions of times, and every time it's been disproved.


I saw that it was brought up, yes.

Alright, then, why did you bring it up?
If you go to European history, you're going to learn about white people. If you go to American history, you're going to learn about Native Americans, and then whit people, because Europeans settled here before any other immigrant race. If you go to African history, you'll learn about black people. If you go to Indian history, you'll learn about Indian people. If you go to Japanese history, you'll learn about Asian people. Do you get my point or do I need to go on?

And aside from colleges, how many high and middle schools offer anything but American History, and a General History class that after the fall of Roman spefically focuses on the Western section of Europe till about 1912 give or take to the Russian revolution and then to WW1. Which again is mostly soul focus on White History.

With the begining part of American history, at least as I remember it and looking at younger family's text book, has little focus on the Natives of this Country and mostly goes from Columbus on.

History we learn is white History till after grades K-12. Where in college you could learn as you please. If not, find me a text book and the amount of high and middle schools classes out there available to teach anything but white history.

Snarry 10-22-2007 03:07 PM

As interesting as this is and as (somewhat funny) as it sounds I agree...there is a 'black history month' so why not a white history month...we've done some awesome things in our day. :)

Somercy 10-22-2007 03:26 PM

Well, I can see where you're coming from by asking for a White History Month, though I have to disagree with lumping all white folks into one month. I'm white, yes, but you ask me about it, I'll tell you that I'm half-Polish Jew, half-Texan hillbilly, with an Irish last name. And those are three different parts of my heritage, which ought to be celebrated seperately.


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