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File Sharing
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File sharing isn't stealing because you take it, but the other doesn't actually lose anything. :3
I think it's very very weird to pay for something you can't touch. .__.; You have to pay for downloading, right? Officially? I think that's bullshit. ^^;;; I pay for the CDs and stuff I put the stuff I downloaded on. |
I can see why people would call it stealing, and I believe it to be stealing as well, my only problem is that I can't afford to buy all the music I listen to, nor all the films and TV-shows I watch. I have no choice but to download illegally... I would love to pay for things and support the people who make good music, but if I buy it off the internet, I can't use it the way I want to (nor can I do it myself, since I am a minor and they won't take my credit card.. I can't run to mum every time I want a new song and make her pay for that one song with her Visa card, it's absurd!!), and CD's are really expensive :(
I think that if they wanted to stop people from downloading illegally, they would have to make CD's and DVD's cheaper (quite a lot) and make it easier to use music you buy off the internet for any purpose you like. it's the same as if you buy it on CD, you lend it to your friends so they can rip it and such, I think it should be possible to share music you've bought on the internet with others, only not on the internet itself, but real life... (if I'm hard to understand in this post, I must say that English is not my native tongue, and I am (as of now) VERY tired... ^^ ) |
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I also want a new car, however, in being a college student with loans, rent, ect... I can not afford to buy one. Thus it's ok for me to go steal one off of someone's lot. I'd love to write them out a big hefty check for the vehicle, the time, the money, and supplies used to assemble said vehicle, but as I said I cannot afford to. In addition it's actually illegal to have your friends rip a cd of yours and hand out copies to others. The reason why is that the people who created said cd just lost any number of potential customers, who previously might have paid for that music. Another interesting point is the concept of whether electronic media is tangible/has the same protection as tangible objects (ie touchable objects). However I think we would all be rather dispelased if someone were to go in to the online database and manipulate our checkbook balances, or credit card if one uses such evil things... Just because something is not tangible does not mean it is not someone's legal property. (please bear in mind I an playing the devil's advocate here, I fully admit I enjoy my downloads, however I fully understand why they would choose to crack down on them as well.) |
Well there is also always the radio and television. You get music on those as well and absolutely free to you (as long as you own said radio or television). Something you can't do for that said car. Yet, we can't use the internet to get hold of a song so we can listen to it whenever we want rather then waiting for it to come on some music channel or the radio? Seems a bit odd to me. Same here implies for movies and TV shows for the most part
Now besides that, there is a very good side to free file sharing. I'm too lazy to look up names right now but there have been a lot of bands that more then likely would never have become famous had their music not been floating around the internet for free so people could listen to it and say they like it rather then some record company making the choice for them. So without file sharing of music we would be missing out on a lot of bands that other wise would never have really made it past the local level. Now I'm going to add to the question as well. What about sites like You Tube and Daily Motion? On there you can watch, online, music videos and TV shows. Should that be made illegal as well? Sure, your not copying it onto your computer (usually at least) but you still are watching/listening to the media for free and you can do it whenever you want as long as you have a connection to the internet. Really, to me its the same exact thing as downloading it except you don't get a copy of it on your computer or it burnt to a CD so why have I not heard of lawsuits going down on those caught going to such sites as those? |
I think it is stealing but I do it anyways. I mean it sucks for artists who are famous already but at the same time, it helps get more people into your music/movies/ etc like Adverb said. Loads of people became well known for their music by the illegal methods of their fans.
I for years after Napster was introduced still bought CDs of all the artists I listened to but now I'm in college and have very little money and don't buy much of anything anymore so I use file sharing. I'm not for the downloading of movies though. I think that is wrong. I know that is hypocritical but something is wrong with seeing a movie before it is out on the theaters. |
It's hard to say whether it's stealing or not. Like Marissa D said, why pay for something you can't actually touch? :/
I find that there's no harm in sharing songs with friends. I've bought CD's, my friends have bought CD's, we've shared and swapped them. The artists hardly get a penny for the songs they make anyway, it all goes to the management and manufacturer.. what do they care about wehther people lend each other CD's? To them, as long as SOMEONE buys this band's CD, they'll be happy, because they'll get paid. Even if it is breaking the law, what are the police/government/people-in-charge-of-everything doing about it? Absolutely nothing! Maybe if more everyday people were caught illegally downloading and file sharing, not so many people would do it... But no, Napster get caught, but the hundreds of people actually breaking the law by downloading their music aren't caught and fined. If they were, people would think 'oh crap they're onto us' and stop downloading. I'll admit, I use Limewire, and I know it's naughty.. I don't use it for unnecessary things, like downloading movies I can rent or music I can borrow from friends. But if there's a really good french/german song on the radio, you can't exactly ask your friend for it! xDD (yes I am that sad that I listen to French and German radio in my space time =P hehe) |
I myself use bit torrent. I use to use Kazaa even in the days of Napster but after time the newer versions turned into Napster basically and you have to pay. The older versions got filled with spyware and people stopped using it for the most part.
As for what Dawn Crest said about what the government is doing, well they give out warnings. Funny thing is, they don't give out warnings to people typically found downloading but for those found uploading a lot of information. I had a friend a couple years back and (I forgot the name) the organization that brought down Napster had sent him a letter stating that it was a warning and that if he was caught uploading any more music/movies/games that they'd fine him a lot of money (forgot actual amount stated in letter) and send him to trial. |
I myself tend to download music from Limewire but I also pay a good amount on CDs. I don't download movies, although I could since I could burn them to DVD or convert them to a format my iPod can read but it takes too long and I can just as easily rent them.
I could never afford to purchase some of the top of the line software (like PhotoShop for example) and I love these programs. If the common joe like myself ever has hope of even attempting to learn these programs and make art and do whatever, I feel as though we have no choice but to pirate them. I can't shell out $600 for software and I don't know many people who can. |
I don't really mind about file sharing. We've been doing it for this long theirs no reason to stop it.
Even if they do decided to put bigger rules on file sharing people are eventually going to find ways to go past it, it's just nature we find ways to jump or cheat the system. Though I think they should have rules as to what you can do that to. But hey, it's just a suggestion they might have done that already, but then again they might have not done that yet. It's a different opinion no matter who you talk to. |
I, myself, watch lots of anime for 'free' on youtube and stuff.
But that's only because I can't buy it because it's too expensive and I don't live in America or Japan. But I do have lots of manga books and 3 anime dvds,though. I think that the anime companies should just add lots of commercial on their site together with the episodes, you know what I mean? That way the can earn money from the people outside Japan and from the people who didn't get to watch the episode on TV beucase they might not have one or didn't get to watch it |
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Yes every artist that goes out and tries to make it as the next big thing comes out saying it's about the music and not the money. Over time though, if they do become successful then suddenly it IS about the money. I will never believe that they lose THAT much money to those of us that download and share songs. They still get their millions. They still have their nice cars and houses and meanwhile I am grooving to their latest hit barely scraping by.
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Things I download on the internet, I would NEVER pay money for, IRREGARDLESS of whether I could download it or not and anything that I would buy I would buy whether or not I have already downloaded it (but often downloading causes me to buy things that I would not have bought had I not downloaded it, so they actually gain), therefore no one has lost anything, therefore it's not "stealing."
There is no way they can prove that they have "lost" anything (money that they would have gained from a sale that would have occurred in a person did not download that file) because they never had it in the first place. Unless you charge that the theft is comprised of the "taking" aka copying so not really taking anyways, of the music, in which case, you come to intellectual property, the ownership of something intangible. I agree that intellectual property laws should exist (patents, copyrights, etc), but since they mainly exist to prevent someone else from gaining money from your intellectual property, they should not apply to internet "piracy" (btw I <3 whoever came up with this term, cause come on, who doesn't want to be a pirate) because the "pirate" does not gain any money from the downloading of whatever they want to download. |
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