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Old 08-11-2007, 06:51 AM

So, I was watching the CNN/youtube democratic presidential debate and was wondering "Who should I vote for?"

With the topics ranging from the race of Obama and gender of Hilary to Health Care Global warming and the war some of it made since while some of it didn't really. This is the first presidential election I'll be able to participate in and was wondering who are ya'll voting for and why?


Dicuss:
The presidential elections
Voting
The debates
Issues you care about
whatever else will fit

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Old 08-11-2007, 03:15 PM

Dennis Kucinich

He cares about the environment, is pro-gay rights, pro-choice, has a plan for universal health care, etc, etc.

He is against outsourcing of jobs, farm, industry, manufacturing and technical.

He is against genetically engineered food.

He is pro-legalizing the growth of Hemp in the united states; for clothing, fuel, and can also be used for food for crops as well as animals.

He wants to begin a new trend in increasing funding to the ARTS of America, including culture. Increasing the amount of funding to schools to support and increase art classes, writing classes, and music classes.

He is for rehabilitation not always incarceration.

He has introduced and supports a bill into the house and senate that would increase low-income housing and support to build 1.5 million new housing units for people who need them.

He supports incredibly increased funding for college students and decreasing the amount of out of pocket tuition.

He's a very smart man, and he also proves his love for animals because he's a vegan, and has been for years.

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Old 08-11-2007, 05:09 PM

No one can tell you who to vote for, you have to go with the person you think is morally capable of handling a country and not running it into the ground. People who have run/handled large coorperations, or have had major responsibilities for mass people...

example:

Hilary - Has no exp.
Gulliani - was a mayor

as well as their beliefs and such

example:
Guliani - pro-life, is fine with same sex marraige, doesnt condone it but doesnt bash it...

Its still in the blue for me, I have seen things in all i like and in all I dont like....

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Old 08-11-2007, 10:11 PM

  • I'd be voting for Hilary, because, well... i don't like the Republican right now xD

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Old 08-12-2007, 01:32 AM

Hell, I highly doubt our next president will be a republican Heart.

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Old 08-12-2007, 04:09 AM

I think only people who watch the election and hear what each side has to say should be allowed to vote, I hate how so much of the country doesn't follow the election and just vote for whom ever looks better. :|

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Old 08-12-2007, 06:47 AM

@cleric sarah: I realize that but how is one supposed to make an informed decision when the candidates rarely, if ever answer the questions and their beliefs seem to change with the majority?

@ Lulu: Heh, I know huh? Even if that were true, I high doubt it would make much of a difference... People would watch the debates just to see the most good looking candidate and vote for them
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:50 AM

That's true, maybe people who finished high school? I want to say college too, but I know that there are a lot of smart people who can't afford college. ^^;;

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Old 08-12-2007, 12:07 PM

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That's true, maybe people who finished high school? I want to say college too, but I know that there are a lot of smart people who can't afford college. ^^;;
That's just absurd. Your level of education does not equal your intelligence in any respect. Sure, people are more apt be ahead of the game if they graduated high school and then even more so if they have a college degree, but I know two people off the top of my head who dropped out of high school because they were bored, got their ged in those couple of days it takes and then were set. She got into college with a 36 on the ACT. By your little set up, that highly intelligent women wouldn't be allowed to vote.

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Old 08-12-2007, 01:10 PM

I'm not really sure, I'm not old enought to vote yet, so until then i'm going to lave it in the hands of the older people x3

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:23 AM

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That's true, maybe people who finished high school? I want to say college too, but I know that there are a lot of smart people who can't afford college. ^^;;
That's just absurd. Your level of education does not equal your intelligence in any respect. Sure, people are more apt be ahead of the game if they graduated high school and then even more so if they have a college degree, but I know two people off the top of my head who dropped out of high school because they were bored, got their ged in those couple of days it takes and then were set. She got into college with a 36 on the ACT. By your little set up, that highly intelligent women wouldn't be allowed to vote.
I do see your point, however personally I believe if it were set up in which the drop outs couldn't vote I think that it will do more good, considering how many drop outs vote and all. :/

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Old 08-13-2007, 05:45 PM

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That's just absurd. Your level of education does not equal your intelligence in any respect. Sure, people are more apt be ahead of the game if they graduated high school and then even more so if they have a college degree, but I know two people off the top of my head who dropped out of high school because they were bored, got their ged in those couple of days it takes and then were set. She got into college with a 36 on the ACT. By your little set up, that highly intelligent women wouldn't be allowed to vote.
Aye, I'd have to agree with you there, even intelligence tests aren't that accurate.

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:50 AM

Lets see who do I refuse to vote for...Hillary and Ron Paul

Who I will vote for...The one who doesn't make him/herself look like a moron.

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:57 AM

I won't be voting next year, and I'm not sure if I ever will. I don't like choosing a lesser of two evils when it comes to presidents, and in the end it doesn't matter what the popular vote is. (Al Gore won the popular vote, and the electoral vote went to Bush)

Maybe one day when I truly believe in a candidate I'll vote.

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Old 09-10-2007, 08:45 AM

I'm not from USA, but we have a vote today actually.... I know what I would vote, but I'm one year too young :(

We're voting on who will lead the counties and something the equivalent of a state... (that sounds strange, yes. there must be a mistake in there...)

I shall have to wait two years before being able to vote.... ^^

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Old 09-10-2007, 10:31 PM

I'm too young to vote... but I still watch the debates anyway, and next time around I will be able too >:3
My opinion, None of the candidates really float my boat, honestly. I just wish Al Gore would run, he'd be better than any of the current candidates, and I think he would definitely win. But that's just my opinion :3

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Old 09-10-2007, 11:38 PM

Gore has no shot. Too many people have a problem with his contradictory life style. "Use less power". His mansion uses more power in a day than the average house does in a month.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:17 AM

I'm leaving the country if Hilary Clinton wins. She gives me the creeps.

As a general rule, I don't like politicians. Too many bad experiences with the people running my small town.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:19 AM

I have dual citizenship. Leaving the country is a valid option.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:42 AM

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I have dual citizenship. Leaving the country is a valid option.
I don't...but I want to spend a year in Canada anyway, just to see what it's like.

Guess it'll happen pretty soon if she wins.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:48 AM

She won't win. Too many Democrats I know refuse to vote for her.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:50 AM

I'm still up for leaving the country...

America's going downhill, IMO.

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Old 09-13-2007, 08:01 PM

I absolutely refuse to vote democrat or republican because both parties are corrupt in my opinion. Now, if only they would allow other parties to join in debates and t.v. and radio stations would air commercials for other parties so that the American public can hear what all the candidates have to say, not just the two major parties, then maybe we could make better choices for ourselves.

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Old 09-13-2007, 11:21 PM

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Dennis Kucinich

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That sounds interesting, I'll look into him. Anyways, one thing I do know is that I am not voting republican. I simply disagree with their views and how they want to handle certain things.

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Old 09-13-2007, 11:40 PM

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I absolutely refuse to vote democrat or republican because both parties are corrupt in my opinion. Now, if only they would allow other parties to join in debates and t.v. and radio stations would air commercials for other parties so that the American public can hear what all the candidates have to say, not just the two major parties, then maybe we could make better choices for ourselves.
I think they should get rid of the whole "party" thing...people will vote for a crappy leader just because they're both republican of democrat.

 


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