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Princess of your Heart 11-08-2007 03:22 AM

should people of different races or religions marry?
 
In my opinion of course it is alright...but..it is also said that Mixed race children have a more difficult life no matter which race they grow up with. Children have a hard enough time without having that additional problem dumped on them. A good parent would not choose to make children who don't have as many advantages as they can provide.

Mixed religious marriages often don't last, even less than single religiouns. It's another strike agaisnt the marriage.

Races sure, but not Religions. Well, if that Religion still has the same core belief then maybe but I can't see a Christian and an Atheist being able to get Married. Also, if they are not planning Children (which creates conflict on which Religion the child will be raised as) then it may work as well.

Races are only different by Skin tone. There's not an "unbridgable" White culture or Black culture or Asian culture or Hispanic culture. While they ARE different, it's not so different that the human commonalities are lost. The commonalities and higher tolerance level make Race less of an issue than Religion.

different religions can present problems, especially if you have a child together. Because what if your a catholic and your husband believes in nothing. You want to raise your child as a catholic and he does not want any religion. That when the problems begin. That is the only reason I can think of.

Also some people say that Children who are "mixed" have the best of both worlds. They rock. The only time they have a problem is when some bigotted racist is jealous of them. I have never seen an ugly mixed child. They have the best genes from each of their parents. Give it another 100 years and you won't have these stupid ass questions because everyone will have more than one race in their bodies.

So what do you think about this?

Susheh 11-08-2007 03:40 AM


In my opinion, I have to agree that it is okay.
People should have a say in and choose whom their spouse is and who they will spend their life with.
That way both are happy, also it is good for their children to be born and learn different languages, it could allow them to travel and speak with other ethnicities.
Although some may think it is weird, I do not see any problem in it, nor would I make fun of anyone with a mixed race.

Amo_Angelus 11-08-2007 03:40 AM


Angel is very deeply religious but her bloke is agnostic. And we have no problems. I mean we will be having a religious ceremony if we decide on marriage. There will be an alter set out in our home and I will do a full ritual on my religious days. If I have a child I shall teach the child about my religion but I would never force the religion upon the child. Much as he would never force the child to see me as the crazy lady who believes in crazyness...

I see nothing wrong with it... If he were Christian we'd only have the problem of how to get married. Because I WANT a full religious ceremony. In my Religion.

nike13 11-08-2007 03:44 AM

I was born into a mixed religion family (mom half Greek Orthodox, dad half Catholic) and they've been together happily for 30 years now. My grandparents (mom's parents) were also a mixed religion family (woman Greek Orthodox, man Protestant) and they were married nearly 60 years until my grandfather passed away so I really have to disagree with you that different religion marriages don't work.

My whole family is made up of mixing of religious and national backgrounds and I've been dating a man for 6 and a half years who is half Caucasian (my race) and half Asian. Our differences never seemed an issue, our personalities, tastes, it all just clicked together. The biggest problem right now is deciding which church the wedding will be in (his mom has been hinting for Korean and I want an Orthodox wedding like my mom did, he just wants an English ceremony).

My parents had decided to teach me religion themselves rather than send me to Sunday School. I was baptized Greek Orthodox and attend church on religious holidays but I personally choose to keep my worshiping to myself cause it feels like its a private matter. My grandfather actually changed religions, converting to Orthodox (father did not, nor was he asked to).

It really depends on the couple and if they are willing to compromise on these things. I think that's where a lot of mixed relationships break apart, when one is asking for another to give up everything they are familiar with for the other. I would never be so selfish to say that if my boyfriend wanted to marry me, he would have to give up anything Korean and be baptized Orthodox like me.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, my mom's family went under the tradition that the wedding and children are all in the bride's church. My boyfriend's an atheist so I guess that would leave the religion teaching to any of our kids to me.

king99 11-08-2007 03:46 AM

i think its ok to have a spouse outside your race. as a mixed child (black and white) i havent had too many problems with it. but i do recall a time when my family and i were traveling and we decided to stop in somewhere in oklahoma to eat at a restaurant.
there were nothing but whites in there and they all stared...it was scary. and a lot of times the blacks in my school would just come up to me and be like "are you mixed?" that what i heard ALL the time. and that's what they referred me as "that mixed girl". and some of the blacks would automatically think i was stuck up. and then if they found out i was nice, they would take advatage of it...
but yea.
about religion, i agree with you that families can collide. for the most part i dont believe in religion because of that reason. it separates people ):

Amo_Angelus 11-08-2007 03:47 AM


Oh yeah, Angels mom is atheist and her dad and indeed the entirety of my dads side of the family is salvation Army Christian... And Religion has never entered any of their problems. Their main problems are mum worked nights and spent no time with him and now she overspends on her farm...I mean on her millions of pets...

juno rally 11-08-2007 04:44 PM

hmmm, if the two get on then why not? there both human after all.

there could be problems with the actual wedding and mixed opinions but if they can resolve it then i dont see why not.

after all with religion is onlya matter of belifes and faith and to tell the truth its just an opinion when you brake it down.

with race i really cant see why not and i cant see a problem at all. like i said there both human so they should be aloud to if they want.

Spatterdash 11-08-2007 06:32 PM

Well, duh, I don't see why not. Life might be difficult for the child in some ways, but people from all backgrounds face difficulties in life - and there might also be a benefit from having multiple cultures in one's family. Anyway, if someone has a problem with a child being mixed-race, or their parents holding different religious beliefs, that's the fault of the person for being prejudiced, not the parents for having a relationship and children.
If anything, mixing is probably beneficial to society, as it helps break down barriers that keep different groups separate.

ElendarSilvermoon 11-08-2007 06:53 PM

Why shouldn't they? All human races are the same living, breathing matter as any of the others. Choice in religion is little more than a varied opinion on how the universe came into existance, so there's not a whole hell of alot of difference there, so I say again: Why not?

juno rally 11-08-2007 07:12 PM

i'll also add this, im part black, part arab and my relatives have lived all over the world and probably have been from a large mix of religions.

true its a long way along my family line but the fact remains that there isnt a lot of problems when it comes to it, not as many as there was atleast.

its just the way things go.

Emrysa 11-08-2007 07:12 PM

People should be allowed to get married to whomever they want.

Generally when problems arise they arise from fear of the unknown, I find it sad that relationships fall apart because of it.

I also don't think it should be anyone's place to judge someone else for who they've decided marry. People are way too judgmental :3

charis_mae 11-08-2007 08:29 PM

Re: should people of different races or religions marry?
 
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Originally Posted by Princess of your Heart
Also some people say that Children who are "mixed" have the best of both worlds. They rock. The only time they have a problem is when some bigotted racist is jealous of them. I have never seen an ugly mixed child.

You have not seen enough mixed children, then. They're just as likely to be ugly as any other kid.

Anyways, I don't think there's any reason to disapprove of either mixed-race or mixed-religion marriages. People choose who they want to marry, and everyone else should just butt out.

fuyumi_saito 11-08-2007 08:46 PM

I have no problem with either of them. I do think it might be a bit difficult to marry someone of a different religion. Mainly because of their different beliefs. Some of them do work out, if the person from another religion converts. If you do it for love...Well sure alright..

As for people of different races marrying, I have no problem with that either. It doesn't matter who you love. It just matters that you have someone to love and who loves you. Children of mixed marriages don't have it too hard I think. There are so many, and a lot turn out to be normal, so I find no problem there. We are all human as a species, so it doesn't matter if we marry someone who has a different skin color or different eyes or something.

clock 11-09-2007 07:33 AM


You make it sound like a fantasy world where all mixed children are pretty and people hate them because they're jealous. xD That's really not how it is.

A lot of people think you shouldn't mix outside your race. Some take pride in their race and want to 'preserve' it, so they stick with people of the same race. They think anyone who doesn't is a 'race-traitor.' They're not jealous at all. This is the extreme side of things, but there are people like this.

Personally, I don't care what you decide to do. It's up to you who you want to be with and whether or not you want to raise childen of mixed races. The same goes for people with different religions. I'd hope they'd be thinking of the children though, not just having mixed kids because they think they'll be beautiful babies.

And I think if someone was an extreme Christian, they wouldn't want to be with an Athiest/Satanist/Wiccan, etc in the first place. They'd most likely find someone of the same religion.

I think that people who aren't so extreme in religion would be fine with someone of a different religion. My dad was Christian and my mom was Catholic. We were raised Catholic. It just depends on the parents' choices. They should decide how they want to raise their children before having them.

pink_punk_goddess 11-09-2007 11:45 AM

I wish I could say that I think love conquers all, but sometimes, it can't sometimes things are so different or so ingrained that one or the other person can't let go.

However, if i see a couple of two different races, it doesn't bother me, people can do what they, as long and they're both happy and equal.

For example I could never marry a muslim man because I couldn't live under the rules that his religion would provide for me, however that is consious choice.

juno rally 11-09-2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink_punk_goddess
I wish I could say that I think love conquers all, but sometimes, it can't sometimes things are so different or so ingrained that one or the other person can't let go.

However, if i see a couple of two different races, it doesn't bother me, people can do what they, as long and they're both happy and equal.

For example I could never marry a muslim man because I couldn't live under the rules that his religion would provide for me, however that is consious choice.

but i take it you would if he would be willing to give up those rules for you. (and you actually liked him in the first place and all that)

@'clockwork - i have to say that point you brought up about thinking about the children is a good point, its always imortant for people to think of other lives that could be effected by there actions, but some times it is imposible to imagine what its going to be like so some itmes that only thing you can do is make a desition and hope its the right one :\

DelilahHeart 11-09-2007 01:18 PM

Hmm... both work, and I don't see how they can't work. If two people really truly do love each other then they can make it work out.

Although I have to admit that I hate the use of the word race for this. There are a few definitions for the word and the one were are talking about is: " category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits" [meriamwebster] the only part that bothers me about it is the definition right before it, which is breed.

Other definitions support the claim that it's possible for two to get married and have children. As for the marriage being successful that's up to the couple.

clock 11-09-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juno rally
@'clockwork - i have to say that point you brought up about thinking about the children is a good point, its always imortant for people to think of other lives that could be effected by there actions, but some times it is imposible to imagine what its going to be like so some itmes that only thing you can do is make a desition and hope its the right one :\


Yeah, that's true. ^-^ The best you can do is
stick by your decisions no matter what adversity you face.

Niren 11-09-2007 09:06 PM

I think that it is alright for people of different ethnic backgrounds to marry. And yes while the child will have some difficulties in life it is still a good idea for marriages to happen because it is mathematically proven that we can be no more that fifteenth to sixteenth cousins apart and that is for how live in very isolated places. So that means that if we do not marry people form different ethnic backgrounds we will slowly start to have marriage's that are bordering on incest. Just think about it. We will have parents that are fourth or fifth cousins. EWWW. but if we spice up the gene pool by intermarrying with different races we can expand that to tenth or ninth cousins instead of closer.

Muggles Running Amok 11-09-2007 09:59 PM



I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. All people were created equal. Race and religion do not determine whether or not you love someone. It's just something you may or may not have in common, even if it might say a lot about your personality. A couple of a different race or religion in love shouldn't ever consider their differences barriers as long as they can stay happy.


kegokec 11-11-2007 04:59 AM

It's been proven that in 1000 years, there will only be one race due to interracial breeding.

I'm Irish, Scottish, German, Cherokee, and Blackfoot Indian. I dated a guy who had nothing but 'blacks' in his family history, no white to be seen. I would have married him in a heartbeat if things would have worked out between us. Yes, it crossed my mind a few times that they'd be made fun of and harassed if I had children with him, but you shouldn't worry about things like that. All people were created equal and no race should be seen as superior to the others due to lack of or excess of pigment in the skin. D:

My friend is actually half black and half white. Black mum and white dad. They love each other and they've had three children together. There's nothing wrong with that.

If one white person could live and adapt for 100 years in the desert or something, their skin would eventually turn dark to keep the heat out. :3

Vickicat 11-11-2007 07:31 AM

Relationships.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kegokec
It's been proven that in 1000 years, there will only be one race due to interracial breeding.

I'm Irish, Scottish, German, Cherokee, and Blackfoot Indian. I dated a guy who had nothing but 'blacks' in his family history, no white to be seen. I would have married him in a heartbeat if things would have worked out between us. Yes, it crossed my mind a few times that they'd be made fun of and harassed if I had children with him, but you shouldn't worry about things like that. All people were created equal and no race should be seen as superior to the others due to lack of or excess of pigment in the skin. D:

My friend is actually half black and half white. Black mum and white dad. They love each other and they've had three children together. There's nothing wrong with that.

If one white person could live and adapt for 100 years in the desert or something, their skin would eventually turn dark to keep the heat out. :3

Wow that's actually been proven? There was a similar topic about this on another site and I said something about how I wished everyone would eventually be of mixed race one day, so that people would stop worrying about race, and things would be less complicated. One thing that irks me is how like on state tests and stuff that you have to take for school, you have to bubble in what race you are. And there's always options for "white" and "hispanic" and I'm both, and I don't know which one I should choose. On the one hand I look white, speak English, don't know Spanish, but on the other hand I have a Spanish last name. My mom finally told me to just say that I'm hispanic because the government favors minorities. And then one time I got one of those tests and someone, who I guess worked for the school board or state or who knows what, had already bubbled in that I'm white! I think I can choose for myself if I'm white or not. I just think it would be nice if there were no minorities because everyone was mixed with everything, and people could just stop worrying about it all, and stop with racism and stuff. On this topic, my boyfriend is Asian. I wouldn't care what race he is, I love him. In fact, I met him online, and I didn't even know what race he was until after I was dating him and we got to know each other better. It's a shame I don't want children, since I plan to marry this guy if things work out. I'd contribute to the race mix. XD But I really don't wanna have kids. Hopefully other people will contribute. XD

wish 11-12-2007 12:58 PM

  • If they want to marry then they should. o-o It shouldn't STOP them from marrying, but they might have more problems than people that are similar in religion/race. Such as dealing with the religion/race issue with other people. And I've also come to notice that the way you were raised, such as culture might also have an affect on marital relations.

Fabby 11-12-2007 11:09 PM

As for mixed religions... I am a very strong atheist. I have dated Christians before. In fact, the guy I'm dating now is supposed to be a Catholic (though he doesn't believe in it, nor does he really practice it). However, I think that marriages between different religions could work fine.

For example... if I were to marry a Catholic, I would ask him if he minds not having a religious ceremony. If he's dead set on it, then I will abide by his wishes. If not, then I would prefer to have a non-religious ceremony.
As for kids... I understand that communion and such is part of the religion. I would not attend the church myself, but I'll allow my child to go if my husband wants them to. I'd educate my child about both sides of the argument and allow him/her to choose for themselves.

Sutorumie Karurusonu 11-12-2007 11:35 PM

Of course they should be aloud to wed if the couple is opposite race and/or religion. There may be clash, but if it's real love, they will learn to accept it.


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