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Cloth Roses 12-27-2007 09:37 PM

1. What do you think the bible is?

I think it is a book that may have started out purely religious, but has been edited by humans far too many time. I think of it more like Aesop's Fables or Greek Mythology, it teaches lessons.

2. Do you think it is accurate?

If it's the King James version, no. I've never read any other version but that though, so I can't say for sure.

3. Should everything in it be taken literally?

No! Too many Christians follow the bible to the letter, and take things to seriously, it all eventually leads to zealots and hate. If you're Christian, sure, try to uphold the morals and believe, but don't insist that if someone looks back at a burning city of sin, they'll turn into a pillar of salt.

4. What do you think might not be true, or do you think is true about the bible?

I can't say, it has been too long since I read anything out of it, but I find it a little hard to believe the story of Job or any of the miracles in this book.

5. What do you think of God?

I think he's the result of Christians picking and choosing elements from other religions and he's there so Christians had something to explain the mysteries of nature and such, just like the other religions did.

Avaedan 12-27-2007 10:38 PM

I believe the bible is accurate to it's own perception of what is to come. It may seem out of place for being physically possible in alot of circumstances, but if someone who carried the title "God" couldn't do (or allow) what normal people would call impossible, what would make that existance Godlike?

Much like it would be impossible for humans to believe in existance without having been created because that is how everything we percieved has been.

Does anyone remember that story about the kittens brought up in a room without vertical structures of any kind?

When they became older they let the kittens into a room with virtical structures and because the kittens couldn't comprehend it since it hadn't existed in thier lives, they ended up running into prettymuch every vertical object in their way.

Humans like to believe we know everything since we have perception outside of animalistic behavior. We're still just as foolish in alot of ways and have traits that are unavoidable.

So it very well may be that the bible is 100% accurate. It'll always come down to faith (Or lack thereof), wouldn't it?

L_Lawliet 12-28-2007 02:53 AM

I would agree with that very much. I am a christian, but I have felt doublt about the Bible things like that but I believe it is much to rash to think humans could just decide the Bible is myth. I may have a religous faith but I only am that way following logic. I don't believe in things like evolution, mainly because their is not the proof that scientists say they have. The bible is a piece of evidence which attests to its own authentisism. In other words the Bible gives you the info, it is each persons own job to believ whether or not it truly is the word of god or if its just another piece of fiction. I personally believe it is the word of God due to the fact that these people in the bible existed as did the events the bible depicts. that ia all.

fuyumi_saito 12-28-2007 08:40 AM

You know, some things like jesus being born and stuff, is all myth. Some things people think happened, isn't even mentioned in the bible. That tells you how messed up things can be.

Tower 12-29-2007 07:43 PM

This will be an endless debate

unless we can make a time machine and go back in time.
It think the most important thing to ask now rather than questions of wether or not it leads to truth but rather does it lead to good?

But for me the bible can be a force of good and a force of evil, depends on how we humans look at it. It can be inspirational (esp new testament) but it can also be corrupting (like the old testament)

It really depends on how you read it.

wizard5424 01-02-2008 07:39 PM

Things to discuss:
1. What do you think the bible is?
I think the bible is a retelling of evevnts that happened. IT tells hwo peopele went through their lives iwth god. Sure, they had har times and many died, but they were bound for heaven, and i have no doubt they live peacefully.

2. Do you think it is accurate?
Yes, eve though many do not. They say that it is not accurate becuase it was wriitten over long periuods of ime by many different p[eopel, i still won't be cnvinced by that thoguh

3. Should everything in it be taken literally?
Smoe things, but i think for the most parts it is a guide. The ten comamandments, taken literaly, doing qweird old customs, not so literally. It all comes down to if the things are still releavnt to day.

4. What do you think might not be true, or do you think is true about the bible?

I don't think anything is not true, while omewthings may have been a little exxaterrated, there is no part that is false.

5. What do you think of God?

He i s real. HE makes life worth living and he controls eveything. he ahas a direction for all lives, and knows what will happen. HE gives meaning, and purpose. He is teh ultinmate source of good fgo rthe univirse.

Mizukage Senjiin 01-03-2008 02:07 PM

I senjiin shall solve everything!

God created the big bang wich then made everything else! ha I prove both sides right! xD

Ranon 01-03-2008 11:09 PM

1. What do you think the bible is?

The bible is a book, that through generations and fallen kingdoms, had been written as a way to make people not fear what they don't know. Its a book to take away the sadness in people so they can take their minds off things they don't understand.

It can been known as a book of stories written by man to glorify actul events in history to untold levels.

2. Do you think it is accurate?

To a degree yes. Every story started with truth. In time it can be changed to fit the needs and hopes of the society of it's time. We can not belive everything we read, but everything has some sort of connection to true historical events.

3. Should everything in it be taken literally?

Absolutly not. The bible is flawed, maybe people know. If the spiritually people wish to connect with a higher being, they are creating an image and putting their trust into that image.

4. What do you think might not be true, or do you think is true about the bible?

There are several things in the bible I find unacceptable and unrealistic. In my eyes, why could they do things such as separate the sea, yet we can't find a way to cure cancer? Was it only their decade that deservered to be saved?

5. What do you think of God?

In truth I don't know. As a kid I was always taught to believe in him, but I don't think I ever truly did. If I did anything spirtual like pray, I only prayed because I feared that if I didn't I would not go to heaven. Some people think they truly believe, but some also only do because they fear. Fear is not a religion, it is a state of mind.

D-Yoop 01-08-2008 10:58 AM

I am not a Christian, but I think the bible is true in many ways. Yet misinterpret. I dont know enough of the bible to say how much of it should be taken figuratively, but I can tell the story of Genesis is.

And personally I believe God can speak to us, but doesnt have a voice to do so, but thats no problem, because he is everywhere, and he gives us his signs.

Also, God created everything he made in couples.
Day and Night, Cold and Warm, name it.
Organims were also created as couples. And genderless organims were able to split in couples(Maybe the same way god created all of what we see?).

So if everything God created has to be a couple to reproduce, then most undoubtably God could only create by being a couple himself. And you can see it is kind of true. He is rough like a man, yet caring like a woman. He created a rough world for us to live in, but also wishes for us to live in harmony. God brings us in the worst situations, but will also be there when you need comfort. God brings life, but also brought death.

I think we see god the wrong way. Sure god is good and forgiving, but he is also tough. He wants us to face danger, overcome it. He doesnt want us to hate, but that doesnt mean he doesnt want us to fight for the things that we love. God allowed us to stand up for ourselves! The bible speaks of tales with battles for freedom. He allows it!

And Jesus, I dont believe he is the sissyboy so many people think he is. The boy with the soft voice, always nice. No, I believe Jesus has a passion for justice. I believe he is someone that raises his voice if he must. He seeks confrontation and is affraid of nothing. A true leader. Now that would be a messiah.

Fria29 01-10-2008 04:16 PM

1. What do you think the bible is?.Its a book where God's words were written.
2. Do you think it is accurate?.Well YES>
3. Should everything in it be taken literally?Well.Yes
4. What do you think might not be true, or do you think is true about the bible?.Well all of its saying is true in my thinking aswell i'm a Christian
5. What do you think of God?.The king of the whole world.Well i believe in God because the stories in the Bible are usually said in history or something.

As well i know 2/10 Americans believe in God and 1/10 Americans goes to Heaven.So sad to say that the people who have a happy life in Earth got a sorrowfull life when they die..

lil azn boy02 01-12-2008 07:49 AM

no opinion

Priestess of Athena 01-22-2008 04:52 AM

I believe the bible cannot be taken literally since when you read it (especially in the English version) you are reading someone else's interpretation. I believe all the tales in the bible are based on real people and events, but they are people's interpretations of the events. Some are truly god's words, and others... not so much. So while the bible can act as a guide to one's life, it should not serve as a rule book.

silent.assassin 01-22-2008 06:02 AM

@ athena: Only reason given, it's religious. You can't base religion as fact. So you're absolutely right. ;D

dianakitsune 01-23-2008 03:04 AM

the bible isn't god's word, I'm sorry to say, it was written by others for God, and many of it, especially Levictus is incorrect. I believe in the bible for some things and I think it is history, but I don't think it's right to apply everything it says, because it isn't technically written by God.

Aeschylus 01-23-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dianakitsune
the bible isn't god's word, I'm sorry to say, it was written by others for God, and many of it, especially Levictus is incorrect. I believe in the bible for some things and I think it is history, but I don't think it's right to apply everything it says, because it isn't technically written by God.

Uh, what? o_O Wasn't it written by humans for humans about God? Theoretically, if God doesn't exist, who is writing for him? Plus, we are writing a book for him about himself? > o;;

silent.assassin 01-23-2008 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dianakitsune
the bible isn't god's word, I'm sorry to say, it was written by others for God, and many of it, especially Levictus is incorrect. I believe in the bible for some things and I think it is history, but I don't think it's right to apply everything it says, because it isn't technically written by God.

Uh, what? o_O Wasn't it written by humans for humans about God? Theoretically, if God doesn't exist, who is writing for him? Plus, we are writing a book for him about himself? > o;;

Well of course, but that's religious manuscript for you, you know. We can't prove it's true or not true, but in time we may. There's so much evidence saying that it's true yet there's so much saying it isn't. Whichever one overrules is the winner, I suppose. :/

Aeschylus 01-23-2008 03:51 AM

@silent.assassin: I feel that if it was written by humans, it is probably untrue or extremely biased. : P I mean, think about it, that is GOD you are writing about. Of course, everything they say about him has to be good.

silent.assassin 01-23-2008 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ◕ w ◕
@silent.assassin: I feel that if it was written by humans, it is probably untrue or extremely biased. : P I mean, think about it, that is GOD you are writing about. Of course, everything they say about him has to be good.

Yeah, he's supposed to be the "all-doing idol" in their little ideology. And yes, the Bible is biased. Like, gay peoples are bad. I don't see how that changes anything though, but at the same time, it changes everything.

Why? Because it's religion. Religion is the main cause of wars and such. Bloodthirsty is religion... -dazed-

Aeschylus 01-23-2008 04:00 AM

@silent.assassin: Actually, the Bible never really said that being homosexual was bad nor forbidden. : P

silent.assassin 01-23-2008 04:25 AM

Ah, but the Christians do. At least the Christian schools do. -shudders-

Aeschylus 01-23-2008 04:31 AM

@silent.assassin: Eh, it is because some Christians misinterpret the Bible. : P

H_e_a_r_t 01-23-2008 04:40 AM

I believe in God. But i don't believe in the pathetic excuse to kill and fear little piece of made up literature. Some words in there could be from God and i honor those words, but, eh, much of what is in the Bible is to create fear and ... really strange, heartless stuff. I have a feeling the Bible wasn't words from God but from a power hungry priest somewhere sometime who decided to play God. Anything that has human's hands, i do not trust =/ Humans are not trustworthy on anything, left alone a code of rule to follow for eternity ^^

silent.assassin 01-23-2008 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ◕ w ◕
@silent.assassin: Eh, it is because some Christians misinterpret the Bible. : P

That explains...quite a lot.

The Wandering Poet 01-27-2008 06:28 AM

I think the bible is a history book, if anything at all. I don't believe all of it is accurate however, since a lot of it is probably either mistranslated, or inaccurately understood. I think, the only possible true events are the ones provable by history books. I do however, think there is a small chance of some of the mythical creatures described in it to exist, like the Leviathan for example, since we haven't explored the whole ocean.

I however think that, if god were truly real, they wouldn't make us gamble our "souls" on 50 million different religions. Most of which are neither provable or dis-provable.

silent.assassin 01-27-2008 06:37 AM

I think the Bible counts as a book of myths since it's done for a religion. Christianity, though I'm not so sure about Catholicism. And there ARE Methodists out there, and I don't know which book they follow by.


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