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wizard5424 01-02-2008 07:42 PM

well altogether, liek killing of the species, no i don't think that they sahould be banned. All creatures have the right to live and not be killied due ot the neglegance of people.

HOwever, constircting the dogs, is a the besyt idea. Driving is ever harder, thanks toi the constant threat of hurting a dog. I think if we constricted them to the lawns of the owner, or places that would be okay with teh dog, i think we would be happier. AND YES THE LEASEH LAW IS TBEST THING THAT WAS EVER MADE IN THE WAY OF LAW!!!

Well, that's just my opinion.

InfinitysDaughter 02-09-2008 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Teeth
I think banning a dog is just another type of animal abuse and creulty, only covered up by the government by saying; "Look at the statistics! Something like 7/10 pitbulls have killed or attacked another living thing in their life!"
BLLSHT! Okay, so let's say we survey..I don't know..(I'm mostly russian so I'll use that as an example so I don't offend people who are easily offended. o_0")
Let's say out of 20 Russian people surveyed, 15 of them have attacked someone. Do we ban Russians from our country? NO! It's unhuman and immoral! Because a few pitbulls attacked someone (Out of pure nature and instinct!) all pitbulls must suffer? And besides, you can't blame them, it's their genes! That's like blaming a monkey of throwing it's poop in a festive manner! D:< (WTF Bad example..Okay..)
AND NO, I'M NOT DONE RANTING! :x
I used to have a pitbull! (It died before any laws were made on them, but still..) Yes, he attacked and killed many Raccoons, Bunnies and Squirrels in his time, but never, NEVER, had he ever DREAMED of hurting someone! (Well..once he bit my dads butt (Seriously, his butt, he still has marks on it. Don't ask how I know this.) But that's only because of a very good reason concerning my mom freaking out at my dad and a broken wine bottle o_0..) ANYWAYS back on topic - I don't even know what the hell I'm getting at but banning a breed of dog is wrong. Same things as banning a "breed" of human!
GAH I WANT TO RANT MORE ON IT BUT I CAN'T THINK UP ANY OTHER FACTS TO STATE! D:<
SO I'LL END HERE. BHAAHAA!

I have to point out that your a bit off. Pits are not genetically inclined to attack people (as it looks like when you say "Because a few pitbulls attacked someone (Out of pure nature and instinct!) all pitbulls must suffer?"). In 90% of all Pit attacks on people, if you look into those attacks you'll find that the person did something to provoke the dog. Hitting them, mostly. And you have to do A LOT to tick off a Pit that was not raised to be like that.

My brother has a Pit terrier and when he and I play, we play rough. I chase him, he chases me. We wrestle. To anyone looking in, it looks like hes attacking me or I'm attacking him. By the time were done I've got scratch marks from teeth and claws all up and down my arms. But he never once REALLY tried to hurt me. Ever. Hes just really mouthy and dosn't know that even though hes about 2 feet long and 1.5 feet high, hes still really strong and has sharp EVERYTHING. Hes the sweetest thing I've ever seen and it would take either someone hurting "daddy" (my brother) or someone really hurting him.


Even people defending them get the wrong idea based on stats and false information. I'm not trying to be insulting in any way, I'm really not, but its the prim example of misinformation doing more harm then good even in the good guys hands.


Quoted from the Dog Bread Info Center

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By no means are these dogs people-haters or people-eaters. Their natural aggressive tendencies are toward other dogs and animals, not people. However if they are properly socialized they will not even be aggressive with them. These are truly quality companions for quality owners only! The American Pit Bull Terrier is a good-natured, amusing, extremely loyal and affectionate family pet, which is good with children and adults.
If treated properly, the dog is no more dangerous then any other. Hell, my beloved Grey is more dangerous then a Pit because her bread is prone to K9 psychosis (a disorder that makes a part of the dog brain seizer, cosing them to attack the closest thing. when its over, the dog dosn't give any signs it knows what it did).



And anyone thinking they are not persecuted unjustly, heres 2 accounts that happened right in my home town that proves it:

1) A woman was found dead and mutilated in her home. The first official word put out, before any autopsy was made, was that her 2 Pits had attacked her and mauled her to death without provocation. The dogs were then put down before the autopsy was even finished.

It was only recently (several months after the fact) released that the dogs did no, in fact, kill there owner. The woman had OD'ed and been dead for several days, succumbing to decomp before the dogs ever touched her. This is a NORMAL thing for ANY dog to do.

2) A woman and her friend were living together with a Pit. The Pit slept with them on the bed, as many dogs and owners sleep. When the insurance company found out that the pair were sleeping with a Pit Bull in the same room as them, the insurance company promptly dropped there coverage. The woman spend a good deal of time looking before she finally found someone to cover her and even then, she had to pay $200 more per month then the last company.

Both of these cases had no basis but had crippling consequences.
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kerisu 05-04-2008 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by b e y o n d (Post 1854588)
  • But would a poodle be capable of injuring someone as much as a pitbull? Would it be as likely to be trained by its owner to be aggressive?

Are you kidding? Poodles are mean, nasty dogs! If anything, poodles should be banned!

Setsunaela 05-04-2008 03:54 AM

Actually not all poodles are mean and nasty. My grandmother has a toy poodle, which is "known" to be one of the most vicious kinds, and he is the one of the sweetest, nicest dogs i've ever met in my life.

Claudia 05-04-2008 05:43 PM

I think it's ok to ban breeds if they are bred to fight and cause a lot of potential harm.
I'd rather see the ban placed on breeding them and the existing dogs be allowed to live out their lives. No euthanazing dogs over their breed.

keokotheshadowfang 05-06-2008 03:04 PM

Why should they have a reason too?
Dog's are like people they have personality's too. I've know some very sweet big dogs and very fiesty little dogs. Most dogs if you take care of them right they wouldn't hurt people without good reason.


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