pitbulls? rotweilers? any dog?

i think they should not ban pitbulls etc...
because...i dont think that its the dog's problem...its the owner's problem!!!! they SHOULD kill the dogs after bites but! but butbutbutbutbbuttt!!!!!!
at least give the owner a fine!!!!! i hate these kind of things! if they get multiple warnings, arrest them orrrrrr....ban THEM from raising dogs!

whats your opinion??

i hate when owners abuse there dogs 1 of my teachers said next store to her friends house someone was abusing there dog i was crying i love dogs if someone hurts a dog i will start crying i cant watch shoes like shiloh or old yeller they are to sad for me to watch

they should not ban dogs like pit bulls i have one and she really sweet ive had her scince i was six years old she doesnt do anything to hurt people (she even lets me use her as a pillow sometimes xp)...most dogs are just doing there job if you come onto there property they will attack you if your having someone over have a sign!>.<..........

my dog is a golden retriever and he never bites he is soft i love him so much he is adorable

Banning pitbulls would be sad.

But, they can sometimes be pretty vicious.
My nieghbors dog had to be put down when they had their baby girl because he always tried playing with her.

And when he played, he was fierce.
After he hurt her, they tried finding a home but it was basically impossible for the poor guy.

They had to do something. So, they chose to put him down.

Sorry, I'm rambling on.
I'm not saying it's right either, but it depends on the personality? I guess?

It is true that a breed should not be banned on the actions of a few. If you were to look into a lot of cases with these bitings and killings, you will find abuse of some kind in the dogs history that could trigger an attack. I have never known a dog to randomly attack. Also, the media is very misleading, espicially when it comes to attacks invovling pitbulls. The media will often label an attack by a dog that looks like a pitbull a pitbull attack WITHOUT investigation. There a many cases when the Pit bulls were not even the culprits. Did you know there are twenty-six breeds of dogs that resemble the American Pitbull Terrior? Here are some articles where mistaken identy has been the case:
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...ty/WrongId.htm

I am only going to address pit bulls in this because I own two, and they are the main targets of media and bsl groups.

So, here Is a random tidbit: Pitbulls pass with one of the highest scores in temperment testing.

Well, I do not have time to add anything else, but you can pick up tidbits here: http://www.understand-a-bull.com/

Haru- My comment to your post about your friend: The did not have enough control over their dog. That was the problem. Yes, puppies can be fiesty, but like a baby it will learn not to do something. Puppies will be puppies like babies will be babies. My thoughts are, if you are not going to have the time to manage training your dog and watching you baby, don't get a puppy. Puppies require constant attention just like babies.

I agree with you. There's no need for it cause NOT ALL PITBULLS ARE BAD! :roll: lol
The only reason why most pitbulls attack people and kill them at times is because the owners dont take care of them probperly or torture them..:[ They can be wonderful family dogs if raised in a good home!

The reason pitbulls are being targeted is because for some reason, even though they're an expensive breed people in trailer parks get them and raise them to be fierce dogs.

They get these dogs for that purpose and that purpose alone. (Flink is not insulting people who live in a trailer park, only the idiots that get dogs for that reason.)

Most pitbulls that are purchased now are purchased on the fact that they're "fierce" and stuff like that. Then they're raised to be that way by people who don't even have something to protect. Then they wonder why if a kid comes over to visit, the dog decides said child looks like a nice chew toy, they've been taught to attack. Not to be lovable and child safe.

Flink thinks people should have to acquire a permit to OWN and raise pit bulls and other dogs with that burden over their heads. As someone who was attacked by a rottie only because she happened to be standing next to the person who taught it to be vicious to those who "attacked" her, she understands it's not the dog's fault. But the dog still attacked.

As such, she really does believe that people should only have those breeds if they get a permit to do so. As such, people who don't have the permits will have their dogs taken away, or will be forced to get a permit in order to keep them.

Well, if they put a permit on this group of dogs, it will just spread to others. Dogs are not made to be weapons, and as such, should not need permits. If you are going to give a permit to everything that is vicous, you should get a permit to have a baby seeing as you do not know how they are going to turn out when they are full grown.

• I think it is all to do with the way the dog has been raised. Sure, some dogs like hunting dogs may have a predisposition to bite things, but it's their training and handling that will determine whether they would bite a person or a child.
  
  When I was about 10, we got a golden retriever from the local animal sanctuary. You might know, golden retrievers are one of the most 'gentle' breeds of dog and are often recommended for families who would like a dog. She'd been picked up, just wandering the streets, and noone had claimed her in 2 months so we adopted her. For about 3 months, she was completely fine. Then, one day, she was lying down on the living room floor and my sister bent down in front of her to stroke her head, and she just exploded. She bit my sister's face an ear, in spite of having shown no sign of being a vicious dog before, only being slightly nervous when we brought her home. The people at the animal sanctuary had thought that she might have been abused due to her condition when they found her, but after an extensive behaviour assessment they concluded she wasn't a risk. In spite of this, she bit my sister. I can only think that perhaps something triggered a memory of abuse and made her try to defend herself. We had to have her put down.
  
  In my opinion, it's the owner's fault if a dog is vicious. I think that dog owners should have to pass a test, maybe get a permit like Flink said, before they can own a dog (particularly if the breed is one that is usually bought for being a guard dog of some kind). And perhaps they could have to take their dog for regular check ups at the vet where they could assess its behaviour? I disagree a bit with Winterwolfgoddess - it's not attempting to turn dogs into weapons, it's attempting to make sure they aren't turned into weapons by irresponsible owners.

Some dogs have been bred specifically to be extremely aggressive in temperament. Now, that's hardly the fault of the dog, but I believe at least that continuing to breed violent pedigrees should be banned. Putting down ones already living is a fuzzier and more uncertain area.
A good and dedicated owner can make a dog with an aggressive disposition perfectly obedient, but there's a problem with aggressive breeds being sought out deliberately by people who wish to use them for fighting purposes, who'll only encourage them to attack indiscriminately.
And, well, these dogs really can be dangerous. I seem to remember reading about a dog eating a child's face a few months ago - which sounds rather silly written down, but is pretty unpleasant when you think about it.
There's certainly a case of double standards at work - dogs get confiscated from working-class owners but when Princess Anne's dogs attacked someone she was allowed to keep them - but at the very least, work should be done on preventing the breeding of dogs for fighting.

In Miami-Dade county (in Florida), Pit Bulls are banned.

It's incredibly stupid. A poodle can be just as vicious.

• But would a poodle be capable of injuring someone as much as a pitbull? Would it be as likely to be trained by its owner to be aggressive?

Flink thinks people should get permits to have babies as well. Since so many stupid people seem to have loads of them when they can't possibly even care for one. But that's not what this is about.

Flink means permits saying you are qualified to handle the dogs like they deserve to be treated. Not to use them as a weapon.

The permit, if put in place, would be given to anyone who passes a class or two on how to properly care for that dog breed and who passes an evaluation that proves they will not mistreat or misuse the dog.

So, instead of some hick from the trailer park thinking, "Hey, I needs me a guard dog!" and getting an adorable puppy, raising it as a killing machine. That puppy would have instead went to a loving family that knows that pit bulls are in fact not killing machines, but just like any other dog.

Ah, beyond, you get the point. With the permit system they'd also have to get their dog checked up regularly to see if they were caring for it as according to proper handling for that breed. Not all dog breeds are alike and it takes different things to get them to behave and even teach them tricks.

Also, the dog most known for turning isn't a pitbull, or a rottie, but in fact the German Shepard, last Flink knew.

Blame the owner, not the dog.
If a dog is raised properly, even if it was bred to be vicious it can still be a perfectly sweet and lovable dog. My uncle had a rottweiler and she was a sweet, sweet little dog. She didn't like other dogs, but she loved people. <3

Anyway. The problem is that so many people don't bother to raise the dog properly or even intentionally raise it to be violent... if you do that, it'll bite. That's not the dog's fault. That's just in its nature. It's the owner's fault for not training the dog properly. If you know you have a dog that's violent in nature, you should take care to raise it lovingly. If you can't handle that, get a different type of dog. Punish the owners... don't punish the doggies. :(

As for permits... I agree with Winterwolfgoddess. Dogs are not weapons, they should not need permits. Just throw the few idiots who decide it'll be funny to raise a pitbull to be violent in jail for a few years, hopefully that'll help the problem.

I don't think any dogs should be banned. Next thing you know, they'll be banning snakes, cats, etc. It's dumb.

Dogs can be taught to be kind, or to be mean. It's the owners fault if their dog is mean. They didn't train it right probably.

Originally Posted by FlinkPamingo

Also, the dog most known for turning isn't a pitbull, or a rottie, but in fact the German Shepard, last Flink knew.

• I didn't know that at all. The only German Shepherds I've known where adorable dogs - big, sure, but they wouldn't have hurt anyone because their owners took care of them and trained them well. Whereas the only Rottweiler I've ever come into contact with was actually a guard dog in my neighbourhood as a kid. It was usually kept inside the house or back garden but one day it got out. It chased a cat up a tree, then caught sight of the five-year-old me. I think I was actually smaller than it at that point. ^u^;; The only reason it didn't chase me was because there was a wall between me and it and I moved very slowly, if I moved at all. X3 I was terrified. I don't know if it would have bitten me or not, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out.

I believe in numbers, Pit rank second in biting dogs. The rest are all small lap dogs, I think Pommerians rank as number one, with Chihuahuas and Poodles also very high.

But, Pit Bulls were bred to be fighting dogs. They were bred to have strong biting jaws and a forceful body. They were also bred with a nice temprement towards people, because a person had to break up the fight. So they were made to be very people friendly, but not other animal friendly.

That said, some of the nicest and sweetest dogs I have ever met are Pits. One of the major party houses I go to has a pit. That dog gets chased around by drunk people, and gets pasted out on at least once a month. And the most he will do, is lick you. And he listens very well, and only gets aggressive in playing if you let him, tell him to stop and he does.

I know someone with a formerly abused one who is soo sweet! My father has had half breeds. Very loving dogs. Also, like all dogs, can be very aggressive.

But people get them and train them to be vicious dogs because our society has a mentalty that they are mean dogs. So often they become some of the main guard dogs you will see. Though a little yipper is better for that.

I think humans should treat dogs like humans rather than an animal.

Blame the owner.

A dog isn't born wanting to bite the crud out of things. Its been taught to do so. And who's taught it do so? The owner. And who's getting blamed if the dog bites? The dog. Does that sound reasonable to you? Answer yes and I will bite you.

Originally Posted by the_anna135

A dog isn't born wanting to bite the crud out of things.

Yeah they are O_o it's their animal instinct. We just domesticate them.

Why should you kill a dog if it bites? Do you kill a human who hits people?

This dog isn't living up to my standards. Let's kill it!

@ 'tea: We domesticated dogs thousands of years ago. One, I doubt it was every their instinct to bite everything. Two, even if it was, it wouldn't be after thousands of years of domestication.

I will say, though, that it's probably their instinct to bite things that are dangerous. If an dog is abused by a human, then it will be taught that humans are dangerous and be more likely to bite humans.

I don't think we should have the right to ban a breed of dog. I think its unfair to the animal as its not their fault they were bred. Why should it be put down just because it was doing what came naturally to it? its not its fault that we don't understand its behaviour now is it? I don't agree with cruelty to any type of animal though whether or not it has to do with scientific puposes I don't care. I think that people should be made to be more educated before they can have a pet like a dog, cat or rabbit even. Anything thats said to be a companion animal should be treated as that and not just some play toy that they forget in the next month or so and neglect.

It's silly. Just because one dog does something doesn't mean the entire breed is bad.

It's like if one person of a certain race killed someone, that doesn't mean the entire race is made up of people who will kill you :/

I believe that pit bulls have been bred a certain way to make them dangerous and that they should be carefully monitered until it can be garaunteed that the breed is no longer as dangerous as they are now.