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Nissa 08-05-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by [Silhouette] (Post 3529038)
One of the most simplest things to do that many people fail to see is to simply become vegetarian or even better, vegan.

There's no way to stop global warming, but there is a way to prolong Earth's life.

While it's true that we can get more food from plants then we can animals, keep in mind that we ourselves are animals and there aren't that many of us who have it in us to suppress our natural desires.

marissa12345 08-05-2008 09:13 PM

Theres no reason for this to happen. All people need to do is plant more and grow more. its not that hard. i know because i live were people have farms.
Thanks to sex and teens we get unwanted little fucking brats! :angry:
Up with abortion!!!

Claudia 08-05-2008 09:21 PM

Too much wildlife habitat has already been taken. Plus the fertilizers are a disaster running off into the ocean and helping create "dead zones".
Even with people going vegetarian and eating less meat, which would help...We still face finite resources and space. Now if could expand into space, then I'd say plant more would a solution.

flowerpuff 08-09-2008 03:42 AM

Limiting kids could very well be the only answer, or having only one kid every famliy, its very hard to raise big families with no food, its better not to have to many kids then have them starve to death.

Dannigirl 08-09-2008 05:20 AM

I think that people should limit how many kids they have. I mean, it would help a little with the population. As well, I think people should just start growing their own food. I mean, it wouldn't kill anyone to try.I have an aunt who lives in the Southern states of the USA, and she grows her own food and even sells her food to less fortunate families n such.

Not to include, people should be considerate of the world instead of just their wallet. I know people want to make moolah so they build huge companies and shit.By killing the forests,or people's food supplies in some countries? Yet, I don't understand why these big companies can't just try n find an old abandoned place or something to tear down and rebuild over it. I mean it wont hurt that much to tear down something old and replace it with something new.

diehly 08-13-2008 06:41 PM

I live in America and I think some people need to start living off the fat of the land if you know what I mean (people are fat). I also think if it gets to the point of people starving people will find something else to eat...like grass or fruit or more natural stuff then fried chicken and french fries. I don't think America has anything to worry about starvation wise and if it comes to that it'll do my nation good.

...oh and the worlds over populated any way

magmakyag 08-16-2008 03:00 AM

...Wow. In actuality, there IS enough food to feed a good portion more of the world than is being fed, if not the entirety of the planet. The problem isn't the amount of food, it's the location. If it's here (and it is, it's scary to see the amount that gets thrown out in this country because nobody wanted it and it spoiled), but can't be transported, it's a matter of money, not food amount.

Regardless, the thread was about limiting population growth legally, right?

If population growth were to be legally limited, say 1 child per couple, the population would shrink by half every generation. Sure, that would solve a food crisis, but families would want to have specifically boys just because of the current society - it's still considered patriarchal. That means every person in the next generation would have to be a boy, and all the girls would be mistakes and killed off. There's no third generation if that actually happens.

By the way, that is happening in China right now.

In my opinion, it's more a responsibility of the people themselves to stop reproducing so much. If there's a food shortage, stop reproducing like rabbits. It's not rocket science. It's not hard to figure out, but if humanity can't do just that, that means we've suddenly lost the "survival of the fittest" race. Bye-bye humanity, you deserve it.

In short, no. Legally, it should not happen. We should be smart enough to stop that ourselves. If you want a rant on the pool allocation of money, either PM me or find me the topic. I might be a page or two, though, just to warn you.

GrayNoodle 10-19-2008 03:30 AM

My opinion is that the countries with an overwhelming population should have a limit put upon them, and that countries such as America should conserve as much as possible.

On the other hand, I also believe that this will, probably no matter what, be impossible.

First, about the population:
There are countries that have laws saying each family can only have so much "offspring" / child.
This is proven true in China, where each family is limited to one child.
The loophole: it is still possible to have over one child per family.. you just have to pay the government for it.
Another problem about limitation [[ at least in most Asian countries ]] is that when you have a choice between having a boy or a girl.. which would you choose?
Most people [[ once again, mostly Asians ]] will probably choose boys, reasons including, but not limited to, the stereotypes on women, and the fact that surnames are passed down on the paternal sides, therefore leading to the results that most wills are usually also pass down through the sons, et cetera.
But then again, you can't choose whether you want a boy or girl.
[[ I hope? :| -gulp- ]]

So, case-scenario: here's this family in China that wants a boy, but instead, their first was a girl.
Of course, they can always try again for their second child, hoping for it'd be a boy, then pay the government, but.. let's say they're poor, and doesn't even know if they'll have enough food on the table everyday.
What do they do?
They put the little girl up for adoption.
Very obviously, this will just cause more problems, leading to a bigger population, and more starvation.
..If these girls do not get adopted, they will most likely die.
That means that there will be more guys then girls, so..
..the ratio of boys to girls will become unbalanced, therefore leading to.. MORE DEATH. (x_x)
[[ or just less offspring, so the world population will be balanced again?! 8D ..just my theory.. ]]


.......
-gives everyone plus herself a break-


*ahem*
And about the saving food sources, that is a given.
If other countries are having trouble providing food for their people, it would be kind of nice to help them, or just to not waste anything. :3
BUT..
[[ muahaha, I'm evil, typing this much.. ^,..,^ ]]
..that's another problem.
The most "popular" stereotype on Americans are that they are too wasteful.
Sadly, that is true [[ not 100%, but it's still a majority ]]
Because that America "go through" everything so fast, they import a lot.
If Americans become conservative.. where will other countries get their money from? Won't that lead to more starvation?? :|

[[That's just a thought to consider and "ponder upon", not really a question to be answered.. :3 ]]

slickie 10-19-2008 05:40 AM

well, It would be good to have population control, but (as was said before) It would put a huge damper on individuality. However, In such a crisis situation, Individuality is not exactly important.
keeping legal abortion around is definitely helping the matter.

also, pointless expansion should stop. There is a city near where I live called Rancho Cordova and they keep building and building. But about every year a few businesses close. there's plenty of vacant buildings, but businesses do not have the money (at this point) to fill them.

With our struggling economy, this is a difficult thing to deal with.

Queen Fool 10-25-2008 12:10 PM

There will ALWAYS be a certain amount of a population of any species that is starving.

However there are far too many people.

Rhoswin 10-25-2008 12:40 PM

To limit population, it is not always necessary to nip the problem in the metaphorical bud. Now, when I say this please don't get me wrong, I think medical expansion is a cool thing, but people are living much longer than they really need to, or should be. Why are hospitals fighting so hard to fix problems in older people?
I'm not saying they don't deserve to live, but I do think we need to stop prolonging death for as long as we godly can. Where is this even leading us? We have millions of old people in homes, living as veggies in beds, being incredibly sick, but for some reason no one wants to let them go. I understand it's hard to say good bye to a loved one, but I mean come on, unless they're happy and kickin' it with the rest of you young people (like some old people can) we need to probably stop hooking them up to tubes to make sure they live well past their supposed death-bed. :drool:
It's a waste of money, a waste of food, a waste of energy, keeping those alive that cannot otherwise keep themselves alive. We've totally stepped out of the field of natural selection on this, and it's only contributing to a growing problem.

Also, like GrayNoodle has pointed out, limiting a population's growth rate can very quickly lead to a loss in the female gender. Although if you're trying to weed out the population, this would work, since you'd definately be popping out less babies if you had less of both sex.

I think without gender-prejudice, or whatever you want to call it, placing sanctions on birth rates is not too bad of an idea. I think the best places to put this, if you had to put it anywhere, would be in countries more developed because there tends to be less of a bias. But this could still leads to tons of problems.

slickie 10-30-2008 05:40 AM

well said!

comatose people, that are practically dead already, should not have to be alive.
don't you think it would kind of suck to live a life where your basically just sleeping.
or to not be able to move, or feed yourself, to get up and take a walk to breathe some fresh air.
seriously. do you really want your grandma's last memories to be the weeks, months, or even years she spent in a hospital bed not able to do anything for herself?

GrayNoodle 12-14-2008 12:45 AM

@ Rhoswin and slickie:
Totally!!
I think it would suck to have to live to such an old age.
Everyone you know is dead, and all you do is just sit there..
..or lie there..
..or drool and stare at the TV..

D;

Bartuc 12-14-2008 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Queen Fool (Post 4109945)
There will ALWAYS be a certain amount of a population of any species that is starving.

However there are far too many people.

Or would it be that There are way too many consumers who waste food or eat more then a fair share?
What about the corrupt systems around the world where people are dominated by fear and slavery in which the 'higher-power' takes the food and makes them starve. Why not just take out those key players and put in a more fair caretaker to put the country back on their feet? Could it be that we are so overwhelmed with the fact they are starving we overlook the cause of why they are in poverty and do not have a proper or sufficent supply of food?


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