^ I agree with this post so much.

I never understood this bi>pan stuff to begin with and I'm straight!

I am starting to wonder if we should get back on topic? Oh well.

My "Your questioning until you turn 27" still stands.

Aww, sweetie! That really was just a joke. No one sexuality is greater than any other, as anyone who has ever experienced bigotry knows. To bullheadedly insist that one type of sexuality has "special qualities" is kinda silly. Which is the fun part about insisting it, so long as you never pull any kind of phobia into the deal.


For example, I am bisexual. Therefore I can fly. Do you see the genius? The non-sequitur bit gives the make-believe that extra flair.

Have you never had a silly argument for the sake of nothing at all? I'm about 5'6", and I have a friend who's 5'10"; nevertheless, I frequently insist that I am taller. While standing on my tiptoes. Not even because I want to be taller, but because I like arguing belligerent things that make no sense.


To get back onto topic... I actually believe that you can be fully capable of knowing your sexuality before you're 27. At least, I think that was the suggestion, Zuu? I caught that out of context. At any case, I've had the same gut-ripping style of relationship with a woman as I have with a man. That settles it, for me. I can both love and desire either gender, and have no qualms about permanence. So, just under two decades of life, I think I've got that one squared away.

Now, if only I could find a way to explain that to my grandmother. :roll:



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Edit: I found a good analogy! It's like comparing crunchy peanut butter to creamy. Everyone likes to claim theirs is cooler just for the fun of it, but in the end, we're all just a bunch of nuts.

I totally agree that you can know your sexuality before hand. Like I said in a previous statement I just think 27 is a good age to have lived a fair bit of your life and to have grown up and had different experiences to shape who you are.
26 and under are all too young.

At 27 your almost 30.

I disagree with universally declaring 27 as "grown up." I was 26 when I got married, but by then I had been engaged once, had an 8-year relationship, moved across country and change careers. My wife is even younger than I am.

Age is not an automatic indicator of experience, and discounting people's experience simply because they're "too young" alienates a lot of people who learn quickly about life and living it.

I don't understand a lot about pansexuality truth be told. Gender is a pivotal part of my relationships because it's a pivotal part of my life. I mean... I don't think i'm a guy trapped in a girl's body but i'm very much a tomboy and proud of it. I like dressing up so I feel more like a girl but so much of my personality involves things that are more associated with masculinity it's not even funny. I don't want people to THINK i'm a boy because I like being on the side of the "fairer sex". So I keep my hair long and try to make people think "woman" as soon as they see me. It always works until they get to know me as a person.

When they find out I know how to drive a stick shift, I play video games, watch anime. I'm a total NERD. I love science and math jokes. I will eat everything in sight if i'm hungry and not care if people see me do it or not. I don't really care about my weight (except every once in a while) mainly because i'm thin enough to make myself happy. I'm a night owl. I'm addicted to Betty Boop (who was a sex icon in her day and age). I laugh at jokes that are sexist towards women (and make some of them too.) DISCLIAMER:I don't want to hear your arguments on this I know women shouldn't be made fun of but i'm not personally offending you because i'm talking about the gender as a WHOLE. And I have every right to do so because I am woman! (hear me roar!). </disclaimer> But when they find this stuff out it's often put me in the same category that most men find themselves in and that's the "you're a prefect friend..." and relationships suck after that.

So yes... that explains why gender plays such a huge role in my life and why i don't think it's something that can simply be ignored. Now I'll admit that people who are trans-anything intrigue me. I like learning about them.... I might even date one if the opportunity presented itself. But....my point... with all of this. Is that even if people didn't see gender they could still be sexist to a degree. It's hard NOT to stereotype people into gender's simply because many of them will judge people by outside appearances. And unless everyone became ADGROGYNOUS instead of or on top of becomming pansexual then I still think it would be there.

The meaning of bisexuality is not being homosexual or heterosexual. There is only 2 % of population being 100 % heterosexual and 2 % of population being 100 % homosexual. So, almost everybody is bisexual. There is a ladder of sexuality choice :
1 2 3 4 5
100% Hetero Preference for other sex 100 % bi Preference for same sex 100% Homo

You can classify yourself in this more than being homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual.

I think you should have to have actual experience *wink-wink* before you can call yourself bi, gay, whatever. Think about it. You get so hyped up about the coolest new game. You get it home, unwrap it and pop it into the game system, and it sucks ass. (no pun intended! lol)

You THOUGHT you'd really like it, but you really don't.
Same thing applies to sex.
I LOVE tacos, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna go munch on my girlfriend. I'm married, anyways, so I can't. :P

I really think that girl/guy crushes are different from being Bi. Once you've added that notch to your bedpost, you can consider yourself so.

If you want to try it or like to see it... It is a little bit of bisexuality ! And being bisexual don't mean being with more than one person at a time...

oh I definitely have some bisexual tendencies. That's just it though. I'm not 100% sure what I'd do if I were ever offered the option of sleeping with another woman. I've certainly thought about it, but it's like the whole video game reference. I don't think I can call myself bisexual until I've actually been, ya know, bisexual. bi-curious, maybe?

There are so many levels of sexuality. Not griping about it, just kinda baffled.

And I've done the two-at-once thing... it is definitely something I'd do again! lol...
maybe we'll get a girl, and I can find out about myself once and for all.

:sweat:

I wish you to try it ! It is very funny but you must not be jealous :P And I think bi-curious is the right term !

I don't think that you have to have sex with both genders to consider yourself bi. I consider myself bi, but I've never really had the opportunity to have sex with another woman. I dated one, but only for about a month. And I've been with my current boyfriend for 4 years (since I was 17). The reason I know I'm bi is because I'm attracted to other women and to men. Saying that it doesn't count because I haven't slept with a woman is like saying that a straight woman has to try out both kinds of sex to make sure that she's straight. Isn't it one of those things that you just know?

It CAN be or it can be something you learn through experience. Maybe if you'd had sex with your girlfriend, you'd have decided you didn't like women as much as you thought you did! (I'm not challenging your beliefs, just laying that out as a kind of 'what if'.).

I guess that could be true. It's difficult for me to look at things through a primarily sexual way. I mean sex can be fun, it's just not all that important to me. I guess that's kind of abnormal though. Other people seem to think sex is just this amazing thing...

I think the question to ask what is bisexuality goes along with asking who a person really is. Its more of say....you have a guy friend and you've known him for years and he's been straight as an arrow for years. And then one day he just says out of the blue he's got a boyfriend. BUT he claims girls are higher up for him than guys. That just means his preferences is girls. Which is normal. So many years he was straight. Now the same with girls. If a girl liked boys for so many years and then starts dating girls starts being sexual with girls. She will still tell you boys are higher up. Because we're taught from when we're little that we're suppose to like boys if we're girls and girls if we're boys. Those of us that are gay and know we're gay from a young age think differently live differently. But that's a completely different subject.

Bisexuals are different. I'm not sure what a pansexual is. I barely ever hear that term...EVER. I know they exist just...no clue what they are. I have bi tendencies. And that means I like girls and will be intimate with girls BUT I'm really picky about the girls I date and will only date the girls I think suit my tastes. BUt that's all of us. We only date who we think is worth it right? We all base our relationships on worth, looks, status and stuff. If this was the 60's it'd be all about free love and there'd be no questioning ANYTHING. But it isn't and everything is held accountable. I really hate that but what can you do.

I believe however if you're intimate, truly care for the person and are not just there to "try it out" then you can be considered bi. Those who are bi-curious. I believe are just confused people (and i'm sorry if I"m offending anyone this is my opinion after all) and they don't really know what they want and sometimes don't really care. And in the process that hurts the people they're with and pisses people off.

I have no idea if my little schpill helped or what...but yeah --_____-- thought I should join this anyways.

@Kah Hilzin: Ok Ok SOOOOO what?
So a pansexual basically just likes what they like and doesn't care if its a boy/girl/tranny or whatever? like that?

haha ok I think I get it now ^-^ thanks for the 1-2-3 kind of break down Kah Hilzin! ^-^

Power of love *looks at own sig and is still confused*

Bi power~ Haha.

I agree with you completely.

Saying that people who value aesthetic qualities of their sex as well is a bisexual is the same as saying that someone who appreciates a beautiful painting is an artist.

I think the rating thing is ridiculous. Bisexual = those who have sexual intercourse with both genders. No mancrushes, no philosophising and no judgement.

I lived with a bisexual guy for awhile. He was attractive to me as a straight woman, but in no way would you have looked at him and thought, straight.

You know, I really would be pansexual except for my Women Clause. I really like my women to be girly, and I'm not sure how that developed... it's just something about the way I fall for women, usually a fierce protectiveness, girly glee, and bubby excitement all combined into one. If I were 100% gay, you'd have to qualify me in the lipstick lesbian category. Even when I flirt with pretty dominant women, they combine their punk rock with a very feminine aspect.


With guys, though, I can date any sort. I like them attractive, but whichever type of attractive suits them best will also suit me just as long as it comes with a gorgeous personality.


I suspect that it all breaks down to the fact that I've never met a truly aesthetically "manly" woman whose personality I fell in love with. I'm romantic, love skirts, and am a bit of a dreamer.

And I really really really like long-haired women. :sweat:

Does this make me more picky about women?

Anyways, that's why I place in the "bi" rather than "pan" category. And I tried to explain this to my Russian Orthodox friend once and scared the living daylights out of her. Props on the clear explanation, Kah. :)