I don't think I'm confused, I know exactly what I want. I am bi-sexual, both sexually attracted to men and women. I feel like I was lucky to be born this way, and to have known it relatively early on. I've always felt I was attracted to the person, not the package. Physically and emotionally. I do understand "hating the bi craze." Nothing ticks me off more than stupid sorostitutes playing the bi for a guy game to get free drinks at the bar or to be the center of attention at parties.
I think more people are screwed up in this world because they are too afraid to just be who they are.

I'm still having trouble discovering my own sexuality. I have believed myself to be bisexual for a long time but then I met a man who made me start to wonder. I love this man. With my entire heart and soul. But physically attracted? I don't know. I don't know if I am not physically attracted at all or if it is just not yet....but I do know that I want to spend my entire life with him. I love him, I love to touch him, I love to talk to him, I love to be with him. But as far as having actual sex, I don't know. Maybe the idea of sex is what scares me. But the only reason I say all this is to just let you all know, sexuality is not always so black and white, and it is not always easy for people to determine, so try to show patience to those who are still trying to figure themselves out. If they make a false claim (think they are bi but turn out not to be), try to understand that more likely than not, they just didn't understand and have it all figured out. Be patient, discovering yourself is hard enough without people screaming at you for it.

Dictionary term anyone?

sexually responsive. Sexually. So by book terms, everyone in this thread saying to be bisexual is to not care about gender is incorrect and what I think you are looking for is pansexual, which is loosely agreed upon to mean being attracted to a person regardless of gender. Meaning, gender does not factor into it when you love a person. I think bisexual refers more to being attracted to both genders, but perhaps for different reasons. I have to go to work now though, so perhaps I will expand on that when I get back.

Metrosexual & Pansexual were words invented by modern society which is driven by sex and individuality. There are so many ways to classify people now. But it all boils down to the same shit.
Heterosexual = Attracted to the opposite sex
Bisexual = Attracted to both sexes
Homosexual = Attracted to the same sex

Then there is Metrosexual, someone who is fashionably 'intact' but is still straight. I mean what the fuck does that have to do with a sexual preference. Seriously? Is that a way of saying a guy is semi-feminine but is straight. Seriously, what the fuck is this shit about.
Then you have your pansexual. It is still Bi-fucking-sexual. You are attracted to either sex. Because you are bisexual doesnt mean you only want to fuck. It means you do not care about if they have a penis or vagina. You are interested in both sexes. So what is the difference?

The difference is with pansexuals, gender doesn't even factor into their thought process when considering a partner. With bisexuals, by the way they define them, it does. They like both genders, sure, but for different reasons. From what I have gathered, a bisexual man might like girls who are flirty and submissive, but he might prefer his guys to be dominant and strong-willed. As I have gathered it, pansexuals tend to have the same standards for both genders. That's just as I have gathered it, however. And as a trial moderator, shouldn't you tone the language down a little? There are younger members afoot. Just a curiosity.

So your telling me being 'bisexual' means you are attracted to people because of features. You aren't interested in them what so ever for the person they are. Only a pansexual is interested in a person for themselves. They want nothing to do sex. Just the person.. Wow, so a Pansexual is a non-conceited bisexual with no standards. That is the stupidest shit I have ever heard.

Swearing is tolerated. Once it is aimed towards a user in a derogatory manner then it becomes a problem.
This site allows members ages 13+ They should be fully capable of having their own sets of morals and language should not bother them. However, I suppose during the debates I could calm down my use of the f-word. I have been pretty bad with that one lately.

No, I'm saying that's the distinction between the classification of the terms. I'm not saying bisexuals are not at all attracted to a person's personality as well, I'm just saying, from all I have gathered, that your gender does play a role in what they look for in a partner, whereas with pansexuals, it doesn't. They generally look for the same things in both genders. I'm not saying pansexuals aren't interested in sex, either. Where are you gathering that pansexuals are not attracted to the sexual aspect of a relationship? I'm taking about gender, not intercourse. And pansexuals do have standards, of course, but they just don't think "first things first, what gender are they?" Hmmm, perhaps an example would be good.

Okay, take a situation in which a bisexual meets four different people.

Girl A is quiet, shy, and a bookworm (stereotypical I know, but it's just an example). She has long, dark brown hair and dresses in earth tones.

Girl B is a little loud sometimes and has a great sense of humor. She enjoys playing games and sports. She has short, curly red hair and tends to dress in bright colors, especially green and yellow.

Guy A is a lot like Girl A, except he's a guy.

Guy B is the same as Girl B, except for being male.

Let's say the bisexual person in question likes girls who are like Girl A. But if he were offered to go out with either guy between A and B, he might prefer Guy B. His preferences are different for the different genders. So while he might like the bookworm type in a girl, he might prefer his guys to be more outgoing and sportsy. See what I'm getting at?

A pansexual would have one standard for both genders. At least, as far as I have gathered and from what I have read online. I could very well be wrong. But that's just how I have seen it so far.

So you see what I am trying to say now?

That is the thing though. I don't see how there is a difference. People have their own standards regardless in what they find interesting in a person. Some people have no standards and dont care. While other people have been around the block and have their preference in people who they want to be with.

What are you confused about? I will try to clear it up. I am being as clear as I feel I can be, but if something isn't making sense, I will try to make it less complicated. I'm really not sure what you mean by saying there isn't a difference between the two. "Standards" is just another word for what people find desirable in other people in this context, so I don't see what you are getting at. Their standards of what they like in their potential partners is what puts them in whatever category the fall under. If you like only the same gender as yourself, then you are gay/lesbian. If you like only the opposite gender, then you are heterosexual. If you like guys and girls, but have different standards for guys than you do girls, or vice versa, you are bi. If you like guys and girls and hold one standard for all of them, then you are pansexual. At least, this is what I have gathered from what I have read. I'm pretty sure there is a term somewhere for someone who likes all sexualities (girls, guys, hermaphrodites, ect), but I don't know what it is.

So by those terms, I fall under the "bisexual" category, since I like both guys and girls, but look for different things in both genders.

That is the thing how is there a difference based on whether you have the same standards or different standards? How does that have anything to do with what gender you like? It is the same thing. One doesnt have a different standard and the other does. The overall outlook of the situation is still that you will have a relationship with a guy and/or a girl. That is what it boils down to.

It doesn't really affect what gender you like, it's just a specification. *shrug* I didn't invent the term, so you'd have to ask whoever did.

Quite honestly. That term is just another way to segregate more people into smaller minorities than they already are. You are either interested in both genders, for whatever standards and reasons, or you are not.

That's the point of labels though, to segregate and separate and classify. *Shrug* It's just English, pointing out the proper term for what people are trying to say. In most situations, the word people are looking for isn't "bisexual", it's "pansexual". It's just clarifying. It's why words are invented, to clarify and specify and express a certain idea or what have you. There's no reason we should take offense to it, but we do. It's not like falling under a certain category really separates us from other people. We do that on our own, by thinking because we're different, we're divided. We divide ourselves. We are a straaaaaaaaaaange species. Lol.

Labels segregate and make everyone inequal, in a world looking for equal rights.

The world isn't perfect though and until it is, labels will continue to exist, just like discrimination and hate-crimes. All we can do is try to make things better. But I think we're getting a little bit away from the original topic at hand.

Actually, this is on topic. You and I are debating over Bisexual and Pansexual terms and they they mean. Yours is defending more about the Not being Bi. Mine is opening an wider range for people to call themselves Bi.

Oh really? I wondered about that but I thought there was another specific term for it. Well then I guess the debate is pretty moot then. Thanks for clearing that up. ^-^

I think the term "bisexual" can refer to anyone. Sexuality is based upon which gender one is attracted to, in terms of sexual and romantic attraction. I do believe it is possible for a gay man to fall in love with a woman, but that he would not be sexually fulfilled with her, and in the same way, a gay woman can fall in love with a man but not be sexually fulfilled with him. I do believe most of us are "bisexual" through most of childhood. We have crushes on girlfriends and boyfriends growing up. Generally, between high school and college, most of us tend to fall into one category or the other, due to sexual attraction to one gender or the other. Some people, however, do not. They develop sexual attraction to both sexes, and pickand choose as they see fit to do so.

I do not think that you have to have sex with both sexes to be bisexual. Especially growing up in a very Christian society, many repress sexual desire altogether, but especially for their own gender. If this woman does not have sex with other women, it could have reasons rooted in her upbringing, and have nothing to do with her sexual desire. She may even prefer men to other women, but that she has any desire for women says she's not simply straight. The favorite term right now is "bi-curious" I think, but that still registers as bisexual.

I believe until you've experienced sex with someone of the same gender, you're classified as bicurious.
Sure, from a kiss one could possibly tell, however one must remember a kiss is not as extreme or emotional as the act of making love. That requires not only a simple lip-to-lip and occassional tongue action, but an exchange of sexual sensations and an extreme connection to make it comfortable and truly worth it.
(I really don't know how to describe the act without going overboard)
That's just my opinion.

Good question.
 

I think that if your in love (or lust) with some one, then gender doesn't matter. So yeah I think that people can be bi. They may have preferences on which gender they like more, but like I said before, if its love then it doesn't matter.

I think I'm Bi, because if the right girl came along I would go for her, but I think I'm primarily straight.

hmm, i think that bi means you can feel sexual feelings towards both genders, even if you prefer one gender more, just like if your attracted people with green eyes, you prefer that over hazel, but you do find someone with an eye color other then green attractive also