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Kyoko Otonashi
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:41 PM

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I think everyone, especially the idiot who doesn't use birth control or a condom, should be allowed the option of abortion. If they don't know to have safe sex in the first place, how the hell will they be able to raise a child? I'd fear for the child's wellbeing. The last thing we need is more idiots. I'd say adoption would be a good choice- But, we already have enough orphans in this world. It's crude.... But why bring more into it when it can be avoided? Yes, it's wrong, but it's all for the general wellfare of the world's population, right?
This is a moronic argument. Let someone have the easy way out because they made a mistake? Wow, that's about the stereotype of an american. QUICK FIX! I screwed up, quick get rid of it so i can go on with my life!

I don't use condoms because i hate the feel, and i don't go on birth control because i have severe medicine allergies, and because i only trust a doctor to make medical decision like that with me (rather than planned parent hood that can't say, "oh, you're allergic to that? Well then don't take this BC, take this one!") and being Catholic, having birth control show up on my medical bill wouldn't be good for my mom. My boyfriend is aware that sperm + vagina with eggs = baby. We don't want to have a baby right now, it would rather suck as we're both in college still and can barely support ourselves (well i still live at home...) but if i got pregnant i'd get some freakin' guts to take responsibility over my actions and raise the kid. I think that abortion due to an inconvenience in your life is seriously a stupid argument. Idiots have given birth to some pretty smart people...and some pretty smart people have given birth to idiots. So unless you are going to personally screen (who made you God, you critical person you) everyone who is pregnant to say, "No, you're a moron. You're not allowed to procreate" how are you going to determine what an idiot is? An idiot in my mind is much different than an idiot in yours. As we're all flawed people, there's always going to be a group of people out there that think you and i are idiots. So by your theory, should we all have been aborted?
And here we have yet another person who goes with the "pregnancy as the bad consequences of having sex" thing.

A child should be conceived by people who genuinely want to expend the time, money and energy to raise a child. It's not an easy undertaking. And it should NOT be a punishment for being careless.
Notice how the 'consequences' of sex almost always only affect the woman who has to first bear the child, and then in most cases, if her partner isn't interested in childcare, has to raise it alone. The whole 'silly people shouldn't have sex and then expect an abortion' thing only ends up affecting women - men don't get to face the 'consequences' of sex.

Idiot was perhaps a flippant word, but the fact remains - children shouldn't be a punishment for slipping up when having sex. For one thing, that's not going to lead to much of an upbringing for the child.

dysfunct!on: I refer you to my early posts on this issue. If abortion is justified in some cases, why not in less 'serious' ones? If you're allowed to remove a foetus when you didn't want to have sex, why shouldn't you be allowed to remove a foetus when you did want to have sex? Why should you be forced to bring up an unwanted child if it's 'your fault'?
It's not necessarly a punishment. Good can come out of an originally unwanted child. But what ever happened to taking responsibility for your actions?