Is it really such a bad thing? They way I see it..if somebody hurts you, its only fair to hurt them back...right? Is it wrong to want them to suffer 10 fold what they made you suffer? I could really use some opinions on this topic....

One of my friends went out of thier way to hurt me....so thats the reason I ask if its really such a bad thing. Some details I will spare include this person doing ALOT of snooping to find out what they did...and the way that they put it into action was, well, devastating. They really gave meaning to the phrase "OverKill".

Well, the thing about revenge is that it can turn out to loop itself (getting back at the other, then the other getting back at you, it goes on)

However, if your fully prepared for the consequences of giving them a reason to strike back, I would say go for it, most people would probably disagree but I'm pretty.. much a lunatic so.

Just a.. don't let it get out of hand. (by that I mean waay out of hand.. prison time out of hand o_o)

Just make sure you wont regret it. Nothing sucks more than regret.

It's natural to want vengeance against someone who's wronged you, especially if they did it on purpose. It's hard to believe in justice when cruel behaviors go unpunished.

Still, you should think very carefully about how long you want to drag this out. Retaliating is certain to exacerbate the situation. In the long run, you will probably be better off if you try to communicate your anger to the person who caused it and consider severing ties with them.

Well, I believe in revenge, so long as NOBODY ELSE gets hurt. XD But revenge is better if you do something that humiliates the person.

I know people who've done some really bad stuff, and yet they just go on and live happily, so as much as I know I"m not capable of it, I wouldn't mind getting revenge on people. But on the only hand I don't want them ruining my life as well.

So I"m mixed; until recently I say just to let karma or God or someone punish them, but what if karma or faith don't exist? In a way, it somewhat depends on your beliefs or morals. :sweat:

Well, I feel it's bad to do that.

Getting revenge "10 fold" as you said may make that person even madder at you. And then they'll do something worse.

I think ignoring them or something a little more on the.... non-violentish side would work best.

I see where your coming from with being more....understanding...its just REALLY hard for me to be nice to people when they have wronged me. Its not like im gonna go crazy and set there house on fire (though that WOULD be pretty awesome :P) I have SOME control XD

I just kinda need to see things from there perspective....if im not anything I am fair...and I dont want to lash out for no reason, with-out even TRYING to se it from there side....

And a big thing for me is...I like the drama....Its fun for me :P And I am really good at it :P I jsut hate when my friends get involved and get hurt in hte process......

I believe in karma... even if i don't get revenge myself... I know that karma will come around and slap that person in the face... But if you feel you need to get revenge, so be it... After all... It is pretty sweet. :twisted:

Honestly, revenge is sometimes the only way to get over something.
Someone did something horrid to me in elementary school and I stil wish I had done something about it.

I do believe in karma, but it's much more satisfying to do something yourself ;)

Thanks guys ^.^ I appreciate all of this chatting ^.^

I have begun the plan to destroy his life...courtesy of his GF...my BFF

since I know you in RL I though you were talking about me but then I realised I dont go out of my way to hurt you and I dont have a GF right now^_^ so I say go for it because if it who i think it is I say go for it and they deserve it because if they mean to hurt you they desareve everything they get make them suffer(just dont do anything that gets you in prison) and if you want Ill help you maybe if you want? because your my best friend...but seriously people who go out of thier way to stab thier firends in the back arent firends but scum because you should never mean to hurt people who you care for so I say go at it:angel:

I am already putting my plan into action...I belevie they have lost almost all thier friends ^.^ Ohhh im soo evil!!! :D

Time for phase 2! Turn the opinion of school of sadi person to a very bad one....hehehe...I love life :P

"An eye for an eye will leave everyone blind."

Originally Posted by monstahh`

"An eye for an eye will leave everyone blind."

^This is absolute.

Two wrongs, just make wrongwrong...
technically.
which is worse then just one wrong.

How about 3 wrongs? XD I could do two wrongs...over powering his wrong leaving me with 1 wrong....that way its like hes the victim :P lol ((Crazy math :D))

So what am I suppost to do?

I'm a big believer in Karma and 'killing with kindness'.

The only person I hate in this life is Aaron's Ex, and that's a long drawn out story. She was given a fair chance on numerous occasions though, even after calling me every name in the book. Even so, I don't go out of my way to make her life miserable and I still will act friendly and good natured around her.

Hate and revenge and all those negative emotions are so easy to get yourself wrapped up in and consumed. I say let it go and find something more constructive to spend your energy on.

I have decided to totally ignore this person...wihch was as nice as I could get......I dont think ill EVERE talk to them again...but I appreciate everyones help :D I just talk with another good friend and she helps me out....we just hang out and act crazy XD Its a good substitute for being mean :D

Thanks everyone!!!!

I would first ask myself why this person did what they did. If for no apparent reason but to spread unhappiness, I would feel bad for that person because they must carry such misery inside of them that they feel the need to make me miserable too. I think carrying out revenge just brings us down to the level of the person who did us wrong, and resentment only poisons the person who feels it. I would try to talk to this person, make them aware that you feel sorry for them but don't let it get to you because that's what they want, misery loves company.

It sounds like you made a good decision.

Well, I think you should just never talk to him again. You don't want people like that in your life. I am sure from what you told me, this guy will more then likely get you back if you retaliate, but far worse than what he did the first time. I suggest you get far, far away from that person and never look back.

hurting others is never fair, even if it is for revenge.

be the better man and let it be. you can decide to not to be in any contact with him anymore if you wish-

Well, I know when I'm hurt I really want to get revenge. But I can't hold grudges, so I end up just trying to get some space first, then just forgetting about it. I always think it's worse when friends hurt you than just mean people, which makes me want revenge even more.

The only time I ever am serious about getting revenge is when someone hurts someone I love or care about. It's a lot easier for me to stand up for someone else than to stand up for myself.

=)

Anger and indignation are normal parts of life. When someone does something that is not just or right, of course it's upsetting to whoever it happened to, and whoever has a strong sense of justice and what is good or right.

That being said, if someone hurts you who has no right to do so, and you hurt them back when you have no right or authority to do so, you are no better than that person. You just sink to their level.

It's easy to lash out, and behave like animals, on instinct alone. But the dealing out of justice, according to justice itself, belongs by right to those who are in a position of authority to the person who did the wrong, not to a person's equals. Moreover, justice is concerned with precise and equal return or punishment for a wrong done... NOT an unequal return. (Eg, an eye for an eye, NOT life for an eye.)

Finally, while it's true that in this world many injustices will not go punished, they will be in the next world. ("Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.") If a guy shoots your best friend, HE might go to hell (unless he is sorry and pays for it in this world.) If he does that, and you gun down him and his whole family, you may well end up roasting with him. And I might point out that roasting in hell will not be the party people joke about. (According even to souls who are there, and have been allowed to speak to a relative or friend after getting there.)

Finally, hatred and revenge destroy the good that is in ourselves. That is to say, it messes up the one dishing it out, too. If we do something wrong or mean or even vicious, we hope and expect everyone else to forgive us if we come to our senses about what we did. Yet if anyone lifts a finger against us, because they're the ones who did it and not us, "Oh what a dirty rotten #@$^@&%!!"

Hold on... we've never done anything rotten or messed up in our whole lives? There's this little matter of "what goes around comes around" too. Unless we've been angels from birth to now, we probably deserve a heck of a lot worse than we'll get, even from the "dirty rotten #^@&#$%s" in this life.

Justice also applies to us. Just like we want the other guy to "get what he's got coming" we should remember what WE technically have coming, for every rotten, mean, thoughtless, you name it... thing that we've ever done since we were born. And for most of us, the bill is probably a little on the high side by now, even if we've been trying not to be rotten. So before we think that the other guy needs to get his, like... RIGHT NOW!!! ... let's just remember that in justice, whatever he just gave us, is probably nothing compared to the accumulation of screwed up things we've done to others in our lives, even if we're "good".

Learning to forgive and have compassion on others, even if they're messed up jerks, can be a good lesson in looking at ourselves, and how we treat other people. If we just lash out like idiots, we're just making our own bill in terms of justice a heck of a lot higher.

Besides... Not only do people usually sink to the other person's level in revenge. They almost always sink BELOW it, and prove themselves even more rotten than the person who made them mad.

Maybe my answer is kinda different, but I won't.
Believe me, literary I live in hell, with almost everyone making fun of me.
I ignore them, and they stopped.
why? they're bored.
they see that you didn't get taunted.
I know it's a hard work, but you always can post a journal to pour out all your feelings :')

I'm a fan of the golden rule, and the blood-for-blood thing.
Equivelant exchange if you're a Fullmetal Alchemist fan.
But I think this tenfold thing sounds extreme. People who say you have to forgive your enemies....

Well they have a point. If you were wrong, and they were right. You have to be honest in your vengeance. Honest about what you deserved, honest about what they did, honest about what they deserve, etc. Lies will only lead to regret.

It's like this. If someone stole my pencil, I have no problem stealing theirs. And if they steal mine, citing my theft as cause then they can bloody well deal with it because they started it.

If someone hits me, I feel justified in hitting them back.

Much beyond that, it gets harder to decide.
If people cause you pain, you owe them pain, but I guess you have to be honest about who deserves what, and what you're willing to do.

If someone tried to kill me, I would feel that, by intent, they're guilty of murder, so they deserve murder.
If they killed my family, the DESERVE to watch their family die, but do their family members deserve to die?
And if someone is a rapist, they deserve rape, but would you really want to do that?

I guess for little things, tenfold maybe makes sense, you called me a name, so I'll call you one for the one you called me, and nine for the unprovoked cruelty. But at the point that it's like you killed my friend, so I'll kill ten of yours, or you broke up me and so-and-so, so that times ten is I'll completely ruin your life, that's not equivalent. At least, it doesn't sound like it to me.

I think people fear vengeance because it's easy to become the instigator if you write yourself a blank check for payback. There are limits. If you want to play the game of scorn and revenge, stick to the rules the other person sets, and know when to cash out, because most people will indeed take it beyond the realm of a clean conscience.