I am a bisexual, and also a submissive. If you have a problem with either one of these things then I'm going to ask you nicely and calmly to leave the thread before I continue. I value your opinion but the last thing I need right now is to have it shoved down my throat.

A little history about me so you understand where this is all coming from.

I discovered I was bisexual at 16 and came to my father who forced me into a marriage to a guy I wasn't in love with. He was a doctor and in my fathers eyes a good match for me. He beat the shit out of me on a regular basis if I even mentioned another female as being pretty. He nearly killed me the last time.....and that was when I said my SISTER looked good in her wedding dress. Before you even say it yes I am a submissive......That does not mean I want four shattered ribs along with multiple other broken bones for simply being what I am....I can't change that.

I like pain....but in a controlled way. Anyways.....on a tangent there. My father disowned me for leaving my first husband.....saying it was my own damn fault for being.....a "fucking lesbian whore" This tore my family apart....and those that didn't resent me at first grew to resent me.

I was kicked out of the church at 18 for again.....being who I am..........and since have lost a good portion of my friends.

My second husband grew tired of me as his submissive, broke the trust that is imperative, and took on another....male mind you......behind my back.

I have clinical depression though with years of therapy and multiple medications....thats now under control as well.

I am over all of this.....and really its not the topic of discussion.

I moved to the house I live in now after my second divorce. I love the neighborhood, and have always gotten along wonderfully with my neighbors. I moved her to find escape and I found it. Beautiful little suburban town.

Most of the neighbors grew to be my close friends and my daughters played with the children of the neighborhood all the time.

Until the one across the street....I'll call her AB.......found out I am A) Bisexual and B) that I was in a submissive relationship with my previous husband. She started a protest that a good deal of my neighbors joined in.....in my front lawn. I ended up having to call the police when things got ridiculously out of hand. I was called all sorts of nasty things in front of my daughters.....and find myself for the last week crying myself to sleep.

In all my life I have accepted that not all people see people like me as equals and you know what, fine, you want to think like that then have at it. I'm not shoving my choices nor my life in your faces. I'm a very private person who keeps such things private.

I also don't appreciate being called stupid or idiotic for my life. They don't know me. I graduated from high school 4th in my class. (I was aiming for 3rd....but I undershot a bit....I didn't want to have to give a speech at graduation). I also have a degree in liberal arts.......deans list every semester.......don't call me stupid because I am a bisexual.

I'm not even asking for acceptance.....just......Is it really so bad to want to be left alone with my choices? That's all I'm asking for.....just leave me the hell alone.

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Sorry if that seems a bit ranty.

*hugs Cora* It's a shame that people can be so close-minded and... Well, jerks like that to protest. Especially in front of kids. :(

I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to be left alone. The choices you make in your life shouldn't matter to anyone else. I mean, you are a great person and I bet an awesome mom. Does one's sexual preference really have any weight in how that person is as a whole? I was raised that you don't judge by that or skin color, gender, and whatnot. It's the personality that shows what kind of person someone really is.

Besides, you say that you keep your private life just that. So why must others make it public? *shakes head* If I could, I'd give your neighbors a piece of my mind.

Cora, you are a beautiful person. Even much so because you are strong and caring. *loves on*

I don't necessarily think it's bad that you want to be left alone. I don't think it's good to be isolated so much though. But I can understand with such close-minded people in your area. It's a shame people have to force their opinion and their way of life onto you. They also shouldn't say such cruel things in front of you or your child. You have the right of choosing which lifestyle to live. (Not the bisexual part) But they shouldn't have protest in front of your house nor exile you from their life. Though I think it's better that you found out sooner than later how they are on such subject. They're horrible people and I'm sure you will live better without them because you're just so amazing. I'm also sorry and I do hope you're doing well where you are living. :) I just think you should stop crying, your tears shouldn't be shed for such people who would abandon you so easily because of the way you are. ^^ Just you know, people will accept you the way you are, you just need to find them.

I'm sorry you have to deal with all that Cora.
People who don't understand are afraid of things like that.
They probably have a horrible picture painted of you because of things they've seen on TV or that the media has otherwise attributed to the lifestyle that may or may not apply to you at all. And either way, it's not their business. You're not in a relationship with any of them, so why should they care?
smh.
I just don't get why people would do that.
I also don't think you need to justify yourself to them at all. If they try to make a stink I'd politely remind them that its not their business. And call the cops again if need be.

If you need support Cora, I'm here for you. c:

I just don't understand how being bisexual and submissive makes people so angry. I don't know. I'm straight and while I would never fall for a woman, I understand that some people do and it's love no matter who the partners are. I was never raised to hate bisexuals and gays...and my friends have the same mind set I do. So when I read stuff like that I just have to wonder why there is such a hatred.

I'm sorry that you have gone through that! You and your daughter do NOT deserve what they have given you over the years!! You deserve so much better!

Originally Posted by Liztress

*hugs Cora* It's a shame that people can be so close-minded and... Well, jerks like that to protest. Especially in front of kids. :(

I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to be left alone. The choices you make in your life shouldn't matter to anyone else. I mean, you are a great person and I bet an awesome mom. Does one's sexual preference really have any weight in how that person is as a whole? I was raised that you don't judge by that or skin color, gender, and whatnot. It's the personality that shows what kind of person someone really is.

Besides, you say that you keep your private life just that. So why must others make it public? *shakes head* If I could, I'd give your neighbors a piece of my mind.

Cora, you are a beautiful person. Even much so because you are strong and caring. *loves on*

*huggles* Thanks for being my friend Lizzy. It means a lot to me. You really are a dear, I wish the world was filled with more people like you. Caring, friendly, and unjudgeing in a world so quick to take sides against anything even slightly different.

Originally Posted by lightkanna

I don't necessarily think it's bad that you want to be left alone. I don't think it's good to be isolated so much though. But I can understand with such close-minded people in your area. It's a shame people have to force their opinion and their way of life onto you. They also shouldn't say such cruel things in front of you or your child. You have the right of choosing which lifestyle to live. (Not the bisexual part) But they shouldn't have protest in front of your house nor exile you from their life. Though I think it's better that you found out sooner than later how they are on such subject. They're horrible people and I'm sure you will live better without them because you're just so amazing. I'm also sorry and I do hope you're doing well where you are living. :) I just think you should stop crying, your tears shouldn't be shed for such people who would abandon you so easily because of the way you are. ^^ Just you know, people will accept you the way you are, you just need to find them.

Yes, I am glad I found out just what sort of people they are.....especially AB. I should have guessed at it before I did though. She is such a devoted catholic it should have raised a bit of a red flag I suppose. But what gets me is the rest of them. The world can be so close minded some times.

You are right though....I should really stop crying....and if it was just me...I could handle it. Its nothing I haven't dealt with in the past. I cry for my daughters. They hurt them too......and I feel like its my fault. I chose a lifestyle that isolates me from the world.....and its isolateing them too.

Originally Posted by monstahh`

I'm sorry you have to deal with all that Cora.
People who don't understand are afraid of things like that.
They probably have a horrible picture painted of you because of things they've seen on TV or that the media has otherwise attributed to the lifestyle that may or may not apply to you at all. And either way, it's not their business. You're not in a relationship with any of them, so why should they care?
smh.
I just don't get why people would do that.
I also don't think you need to justify yourself to them at all. If they try to make a stink I'd politely remind them that its not their business. And call the cops again if need be.

If you need support Cora, I'm here for you. c:

Media....the dreaded evil. It paints a picture of things and its all people want to understand. They tend to not look past it because its so pushed in their face. I suppose I can not blame them for what the media offers. They will believe what they see......what I can blame is the close mindedness and the unwillingness to learn the truth.

Originally Posted by Maria-Minamino

I just don't understand how being bisexual and submissive makes people so angry. I don't know. I'm straight and while I would never fall for a woman, I understand that some people do and it's love no matter who the partners are. I was never raised to hate bisexuals and gays...and my friends have the same mind set I do. So when I read stuff like that I just have to wonder why there is such a hatred.

I'm sorry that you have gone through that! You and your daughter do NOT deserve what they have given you over the years!! You deserve so much better!

Thank you dear. It means a lot to know that there are people who may not agree with the lifestyle but don't condemn it either. That's really the best case senerio in my mind. Unfortunately as popular as atheism and other non-christian religions are getting Christianity in all its forms is still the most popular religion. Its the die hard Christians.....(especially Catholics) who preach the most. Not saying that all Christians are out to get us.....not at all. I have many Christian friends. Its just a trend I noticed.

It would be nice if people were more open-minded and didn't judge others.

I'm Christian and even so, I know that it's not for me to judge others. Not sure exactly but I do not recall reading in the bible that we humans should judge one another. *shakes head* I do know that the ones who are die hard Christians (and I use the term die hard loosely because I feel like to be a true die hard Christian, you shouldn't judge others but rather embrace all people) and look down at those who don't have the same sexuality as them. :( And it's a real shame.

Its not actually the religion itself....but that people use it as an excuse to not see past there own prejudice and hatred.

Yeah, the ones who use the religion as an excuse to act so ugly like that give the true believers a bad rap. :( Granted, I will give them a tiny bit of leeway as they likely grew up in a household that had those hardcore beliefs. However, I don't think that should justify being cruel and hateful.

Neither do I ....but then I am on the opposite end of the spectrum(not atheist, but rather I don't believe in organized religion. I am very private about my religion) so I don't know that I have the right or perhaps the mind frame to judge.

Aw Cora, I'm really sorry to hear that. *hug* Of course it's not bad of you to want to be left alone, especially when one of your choices isn't really a choice at all, no-one chooses their sexuality, it's something that you're born with. People who don't understand shouldn't even attempt to get involved in things that are no concern to them. The fact that you are bisexual or submissive doesn't interfere with their life in any way, shape or form, they should respect your privacy and leave you to it. Speaking to you like that in front of your children is inexcusable, no child should be brought into a fight that doesn't involve them and they shouldn't have to hear their mother being called disgusting names. Your neighbours, as fully grown adults, should know a lot better and shouldn't be acting like a bunch of children.

Don't let them get you down, Cora. You're a lot stronger than them, you have just had awful luck when it comes to the other people in your life. If you ever want someone to talk to you're more than welcome to send me a message. C:

Cora I will first say that i don't agree with your lifestyle(But add that's my problem not yours).
My 18yr old daughter is also a bisexual,not that it really matters (how do I deal with that? I hope it goes away Knowing it really isn't going too.And I love her and my granddaughter very much)
I'm so very sorry you had to go through what happened especially your daughters, shame on those people. What gives them the right to judge your life,like theirs is perfect (and I'm not saying you did anything wrong)
I'm a Christian and just so you know as Christians we are taught to believe that the act(of gay sex) is a sin, but we are still supposed to love and be respectful of the person. What those people did was not in any way Christian.
I hope I did not offend you by anything I said,it was not meant that way. *HUGS*

Originally Posted by Cassette

Aw Cora, I'm really sorry to hear that. *hug* Of course it's not bad of you to want to be left alone, especially when one of your choices isn't really a choice at all, no-one chooses their sexuality, it's something that you're born with. People who don't understand shouldn't even attempt to get involved in things that are no concern to them. The fact that you are bisexual or submissive doesn't interfere with their life in any way, shape or form, they should respect your privacy and leave you to it. Speaking to you like that in front of your children is inexcusable, no child should be brought into a fight that doesn't involve them and they shouldn't have to hear their mother being called disgusting names. Your neighbours, as fully grown adults, should know a lot better and shouldn't be acting like a bunch of children.

Don't let them get you down, Cora. You're a lot stronger than them, you have just had awful luck when it comes to the other people in your life. If you ever want someone to talk to you're more than welcome to send me a message. C:

Thank you for careing, and of course listening. Its getting a bit better now. Albeit rather awkward with the neighbors at least they are not protesting openly in my yard.....I hope in the very least it stays like this.

Originally Posted by Texasrose

Cora I will first say that i don't agree with your lifestyle(But add that's my problem not yours).
My 18yr old daughter is also a bisexual,not that it really matters (how do I deal with that? I hope it goes away Knowing it really isn't going too.And I love her and my granddaughter very much)
I'm so very sorry you had to go through what happened especially your daughters, shame on those people. What gives them the right to judge your life,like theirs is perfect (and I'm not saying you did anything wrong)
I'm a Christian and just so you know as Christians we are taught to believe that the act(of gay sex) is a sin, but we are still supposed to love and be respectful of the person. What those people did was not in any way Christian.
I hope I did not offend you by anything I said,it was not meant that way. *HUGS*

I'm perfectly accepting to the fact that my life isn't always agreed with, but I'm ok with that and I also respect that opinion. you certainly didn't offend me. Its the people who scream at me.....well....many names I don't care to repeat and call my daughters..."children of the devil". those are the ones that offend me. Not those with a conflicting opinion. We where made to think differently and thats good ^.^

You're not isolating yourself nor your child. The lifestyle you chose is who you are. Don't worry about that, you are you and you should be proud of it. Your daughter can find friends, you don't have to worry. You're not isolating her from making friends or anything, you're protecting her from the close minded people that want you hurt and your daughter. She will find someone that will stick with her even if your preference towards a partner is different. You shouldn't feel bad for yourself nor your daughter, just be a good mother towards her and that is it.

@Cora: I'm glad that things have somewhat settled, things will return to normality soon I'm sure. C:

This breaks my heart to read. Who you fall in love with and what goes on in your bedroom is YOUR business, and no one else's. Unless your practices were hurting other people (against their will), which they most definitely were NOT, no one has any right to say anything against your lifestyle, much less protest it loudly in front of CHILDREN. I'm due with my first child any day now and it makes me so sad to think that this is the world he's being born into... I hope things have improved drastically by the time he's old enough to know his orientation and understand what is going on. If it ever happens again, for what it's worth, remember all of us out there who would fight these people tooth and nail on your behalf if we had the opportunity!