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Lsaylor 02-09-2008 05:02 AM

Do i Have All rights to be mad or hate her?..
 
My Ex, Austin. Broke Up With Me. My Friend Kayla. Which is my BEST friend said she hated him. but still was his friend. she promised, she wouldn't ever Like him or Date him. There was a thing going around they were Dating, she lied to me. i was VERY mad. i asked she said she wasn't. i found out tonight. [School thing] they were dating. She kept avoiding Me Cause she knew i found out. she said it was a forced Couple thing [or whatever D;] and i was like.. who? She said My other Friend Katie. Katie Knew i didn't Want them together. i was Hanging out with my friends, Dancing a little, then i saw Her, i started walking and i had like 4 people grab me Because i said i was Going to Kick Her ass. when i got to her she said it was no big deal. My Ex Has Gotten like.. 15 Girlfriends by Nov. [when he broke up with me] all i know is hes going to date her, cheat on her, and hurt her. hes Even had Sex A lot too. which she thought was Sick. BUT SHES STILL DATING HIM!? She Lied To Me. I Said I'm Never Talking to you. i hope you get hurt. when i was walking in the hallway Austin Said Stop being such a bitch. Well I'm sorry for caring For a friend But now i don't care since you have the gut to lie to me Since i take all my friends seriously. My Friends know to never lie me.

But My Question is. Since Everyone Thinks i shouldn't Be Mad or Hate her.

Do i Have all the right to Hate her and never want to Speak to her again?

I Think i do. Lieing to a friend is just wrong in my book and not worth a friendship if your going to lie and hide it.

If you need to Ask Any Questions. D; Go ahead.



Edit;
My Avie is a guy, but im really a chick. XD

Manseutus 02-09-2008 05:11 AM

interesting dilemna you have there. You have every right to be mad for any reaon or to hate people for any reason. Thats the beautiful thing about america. Now the question that should be asked is "Am i justified in being upset or hateful at/towards him./her?"

In this case i see justification in your anger. You should be upset that you were lied to. If you weren't I'd question your sanity. However maybe she lied to you just so you wouldn't be hurt ny her decision.. Kinda like how some guys say no that dress doesn't make you look fat even if they think it does. Granted this is something more major.

But the only person who can truly answer this question is yourself. For a couple of reasons.

1) you know what angers you
2) You are the one in situation thus best able to judge what actions you should take
3) to each their own

Dystopia 02-09-2008 05:13 AM

I think its rather stupid to hate someone for dating your ex.

But if its because you don't like having your trust betrayed or something that you hate her, go for it.

Jaded Geisha 02-09-2008 05:15 AM

Heh Maybe I'm Petty... But I'd tell that bitch to take a walk if I had been in your shoes... A cardinal rule for being a good woman is to NEVER hook up with your friend's Ex unless they specifically tell you it's all right...

She sounds Like a sad excuse for a friend and if I were you I too would discontinue my friendship with her... But when the inevitable happens and the douche bag breaks her heart, you should be gracious and not rub her nose in it... But I wouldn't let her get as close to you as she was before the fallout...

Amo_Angelus 02-09-2008 05:17 AM

I think you have every right to be mad at her for lying to you, but not for dating him.

Yeah, yeah, I know girl code says not to date your friends exs and all that pizzaz, but really...? If he's going to hurt her, warn her and let her make her own choices. A good friend won't disown a friend for their bad choices, but be there to pick up the pieces. Of course this all goes out the window when those bad choices actually hurt their friends...

If you know what I mean.

Dystopia 02-09-2008 05:17 AM

@ Jaded - Honestly, I think its extremely petty to be jealous of someone else going out with your ex. Especially after you've been complaining about him for weeks or something. The relationship is over. Why not let someone else try? ._. The entire boy drama is extremely stupid.

Jaded Geisha 02-09-2008 05:22 AM

Hey! When you TELL your friend that you DON'T want them dating that guy then they really should back off! If they don't that shows you just how much they valued your feelings...

It doesn't have anything to do with jealousy, It has to do with loyalty and Respecting your friends.

Dystopia 02-09-2008 05:25 AM

@ Jade - No, its petty to prevent your friend from perusing a relationship with someone he or she likes, just because you don't want her to. Honestly, its her heart and her choice. You really shouldn't dish out the friendship card and flash it in her face, and expect her to betray her feelings.
Well, unless she's using it to make you jealous or go all "HAHA BITCH I'M BETTER". THEN you can slap her in the face.

Jaded Geisha 02-09-2008 05:28 AM

I dunno, I'd atleast wait a few months for the hurt to heal before I went after my friend's Ex... But even then I'd want to make sure she was alright with it...

Lsaylor 02-09-2008 05:30 AM

So many fast replys
DX

Mansetus;
i don't .. She Kinda Lied To me about a lot of Things. Now Shes Even joining my ex calling me names, and telling people Stuff that ive never said and people are getting mad at me. =S

Anna<3;
i Dont Her Cause she Dated My ex;
i hate her Because she lied to me. A LOT. When she promised she'd Never Lie to me about the stuff she did.

Jaded; i Don't Want Her Dating My ex. He Cheated on me, and broke up with me. I Didn't want to see her get hurt But She Ignored me. Its going to happen to her. [He'll say he won't but hes done it to EVERY ex. Since i know most of them. How nice?] I'm not going to Rub it in her Face. but if he does do it. all im going to say is i told you so, should of listened to Me. >_>; i will not lie to my friends. D; So i want that respect back. =/

Angel<3; XD Above<3 She was my ONLY Friend. That i trusted, -just from bad trust issues..- She was a great friend. but to go back and think of what i told her, and she prob has told me. upsets me even more. >_<!

[Everyone] I Had a crap load of blinking lights and loud music in my ears so if i don't understand something well sorryz. ;-;

Dystopia 02-09-2008 05:34 AM

@ Lacy - Well then hate her. O_o; Its no good having a dishonest friend.

Winter Wind 02-09-2008 05:35 AM

I'm not sure if you're fully justified in hating or being mad at her.

Half of me says you are, because she fucking lied to you. That's just horrible. And now she's calling you names? Go kick her ass.

The other half of me says since she lied to you, she isn't worth being your friend, and you should just chill and watch what happens.

But then again, you can't really prevent attraction. It just...happens.
o___o;

So...just chill, and leave them both alone. Ignore them. Don't make a huge fuss, just let them be. If she gets hurt, you have the right to say "I told you", and walk away.

GOOD LUCKS.



Lsaylor 02-09-2008 05:44 AM

Anna;
thats what i kinda am upset about.
People Were saying i SHOULDN'T be mad.
D; but i know people on mene are much smarter >_> AND NICER
;___;

winter;
its kinda like both. D; its hard for me to hate some one though .. </3
I WANT TO. but. she was a good friend. so i just.. can't >_>; i Kinda have so. xD I DO leave them alone. But everyone keeps asking "HOMG ARE YOU MAD AT KAYLA?, THERE NOT DATING, HEY LACY WHATS WRONG, LACY ARE YOU MAD AT ME, LACY STOP BEING SUCH A BITCH" DX Its Like. say I'm on one side of the room. they'll do whatever it takes to get close to me. and just talk and point and bleh. D< then ill move and they follow so I'm like give up -_-;

Winter Wind 02-09-2008 05:55 AM

She was a good friend.
Well.
If you really likes her that much.
Then you should respect her decision.
Although it's flippin retarded that she lied to you, if she means that much to you, then just say "Hey. Next time, tell me this stuff straight out."

And if someone comes to bother you, say "It's all chill. Now, leave me alone?"

:3

Lsaylor 02-09-2008 06:01 AM

People in my town are just... Rude..
i don't like her.
i thought i did. but i guess i was wrong. DX once again to trust a friend easily. >_<

Meow.
i've said that before D; but i guess she ignored me -.-;;

People in my town. really don't stop following people. its kinda like a stalker. very annoying. you know there, there but yeah ..

Angelin 02-09-2008 06:17 AM

I really don't think that you are completely mad because she is dating your ex but the point that you know how your ex is and know what will happen and no matter how much you tried to tell her about it and even she saw everything that happened she just jumped to the conclusion to date you ex.

No one is really forced to have a relationship with anyone, they choose to have one and they just do it, people who tend to go and say "I was forced to." are just complete liars in my part.

Lying to you was also wrong because if she would have accepted her from the beginning you would have just been mad at her instead of hating her like you are right now but, hating doesn't even matter in some part because it just hurts you more for doing so even though I must say that she doesn't deserve to be talked because you did trust her and though she would always no matter what would tell you the truth but you know what?

She wasn't a good friend and she wasn't able to at least be truthful and that really hurts in a friendship.

Manseutus 02-09-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lsaylor
So many fast replys
DX

Mansetus;
i don't .. She Kinda Lied To me about a lot of Things. Now Shes Even joining my ex calling me names, and telling people Stuff that ive never said and people are getting mad at me. =S


Don't what?? sorry I am confused. And if the name calling and lies of stuff you supposedly said then ya be upset. Most definitely dislike this person whom once called them self your friend. However keep in mind that the guy will eventually hurt her as he hurt you and others. She's gonna come looking for someone to help her through it. And she may even apologize.

Sagitar 02-09-2008 01:39 PM

well.. sure your friends are being a total bitches, but he is your ex and learning what a jerk he is, why not jsut get over him? what's there to morn about him or anything if he's just a total luser like that? :/

Gwendolyr 02-09-2008 03:00 PM

I think you're entitled to be mad at her for lying. But you have to keep telling people it's because she lied and not the ex thing, otherwise everyone else is all bleh [because a lot of people are idiots and will think it's coz you're jealous instead of him being a grade-A asshat].

The question is, do you forgive her?

Lsaylor 02-09-2008 03:57 PM

man;
i don't know i fell asleep so i lost my train of thought ^^; she won't say sorry.
and i won't help her. i knew her since the 2nd Grade. Hes known her for.. 1 yr and a half? she choose him over Me Which upset me even more. >_>;

sagitar;
Bleh.
Hes a druggie. so im kinda glad he left me. i AM over him. after he started being a dick towards me i was like. dude.. just shut the fuck up .. >_>;

Qwen; My friends Knew he lied. but lied about them knowing. so i kinda just gave up on having real life friends >_>; and No. i won't forgive her. i trusted her with a lot of stuff and shes turned on me. she kinda like started to be friends with a lot of people who started drugs so i tryed to keep them away from her even more. i loved her to death But =3 not anymore..

Fabby 02-12-2008 01:12 PM

Really, now. Just because he's your ex doesn't mean you have some sort of hold on him. If he's single, he is open for anyone to date.
I still think one should talk to their friend before dating their friend's ex, as it does hurt. But the reality of it is, not everyone will and it's not really a reason to hate her.

You're perfectly allowed to be pissed about her lying, though. She sounds like a shit friend anyway. I would drop the bitch on her ass because she's not worth the effort. If she wants to date the guy and get hurt, well... her problem.

Yeah 02-12-2008 04:05 PM

Yes, you have every right to be mad at her. She lied to you first of all and kept the fact that she was dating your ex a secret. When I was a teen, we just didn't date each others ex's or guys our friends liked (most of us didn't. Has she apologized and maybe broken up with him? That's just so inconsiderate of your feelings, friends should come before boys.

SweetLilKitten 02-12-2008 11:22 PM

been there done that it sucks..

dating a friends ex is one of those unwritten laws you just DON'T do.... I've always been that way and I've turned down people because I knew it would hurt my friend.

It's a rough thing.. when they should be a best friend but break that honesty because they do what you asked them not to.... if she would have asked if you were ok it might have made it better but the same thing happened to me and I lost my best friend and bf.. and well it took YEARS to even start talking again..

it's hard and I'm sorry you're dealing with it.. you have every right to be mad... but hate is such a strong and vile thing I wouldn't go so far..

and besides... if shes going to let a guy come between her friendship.. she wasn't a very good friend to begin with.

Hikikomori 02-13-2008 04:27 PM

In my opinion, you have every reason to hate her guts. She said she wouldn't, so she should be a girl of her word, but since she lied to your face about something that serious, you have no reason to trust her on anything else.

I know, Ice Queen-ish, but I've been forced to comfort too many friends with this same problem, and I'm sick of it.

fiarra 02-13-2008 05:50 PM

This is sooo totally surreal. I've been in this situation... except I was the other girl.

In my case, the three of us were all really tight. But then Jess asked Jacob out and they started hanging out and being all coupley. And I stayed out of their way. But then he broke up with her. She was heart-broken and the two of us had tons of girls nights and stuff. And all was good for a while, but then he confessed that he liked me. And I kinda liked him too. But then we handled it terribly and didn't tell her right away and she found out about it from my bitter jerkface of an ex-bf. it destroyed our friendship completely and she cut me out of her life totally. Unfriended me on everything and refused to talk to me. Quit anime club where I was president.

It was the worst feeling in the world. People tried to tell me that she was being unreasonable.

Now 2 years later (and a full year after I broke up with him) I finally got in contact with her. Pretty much that fall-out is the thing I regret the most.. pretty much for the entirety of my life.

Maybe you could sit down with her, the 2 of you alone, and talk about all your views on the subject. Ask her why she lied to you about it and then think really hard about deciding to hate her. If you've been friends for so long, do you want to break that over a boy? I know the unwrittwen "friend's ex-bfs are off limits" rule, but sometimes you need to look past that.


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