*staggers in looking more zombie than human and flops down on the couch* Why is it that most people look at a day off as a chance to get rest, where as everyone who usually watches my daughter so I can rest looks at me when I have time off and goes "But you don't work tonight? Why do you need help?" I mean, go forbid I want to keep my regular sleep schedule SOMEWHAT in tack on my days off

Oh, lame. D=

On the bright side of things.... tomorrow is the day! =DD

What day? The day that pain-in-the-ass guy roommate of yours moves out?

The day that I ask my girl to marry me. <3

Unfortunately, I also found this: GOP takes another shot at gay marriage amendment - 13 WTHR

Which means that any plans we make together will have to be in a different state. Not only will Indiana prevent me from being married under state law, its making a failsafe just in case some left-wing politician thinks its time to let the gays in on the fun of being married. If I wasn't moving out of the state before, I'm DEFINITELY moving out of the state now.

As for my roommate, he has to pay for his own food but he's not moving out. When he realized that moving out would mean paying us or facing court, he ceased all attempts to leave us high and dry.

Geez. When'll people pull they're heads out of their asses? (On a side note, you're only a state over from me!)

And at least you've gotten him to stop eating your food. I hope.

Hopefully soon. If I have to live with this "gay agenda" bull any longer, I think bullshit meter may end up breaking. >___>

I totally knew you were from Illinois because you were talking about the storm with Cup, but by the time I got to posting I'd forgotten to comment. xD

He's stopped eating our food and now our stuff is in separate cupboards. We paid for two weeks of groceries last time and it was $218. This time we paid for two months of groceries and it was only $115. I'm sure that after a few weeks of this passive-aggressive bullcrap, he'll start looking for a cheaper place for him and his entourage to live.

I'm sure he's starting to see us as horrible man-hating lesbians, since we managed to chase all the men out of our living space each year. But I think that says more about the men than it does about us.

That is a big bunch of bull shit on both accounts of what you're having to put up with :-(

My roomy's at the party house used to ask me to go get groceries, then they'd be to broke to pay me back, because they went and bought beer for a party they were having. They didn't seem to get why I was so peeved. In there mind they were supplying me with beer for supplying them with food, what they didn't seem to comprehend is that I was working 2 jobs and going to part time classes, so I didn't have time or the desire to drink their shitty natty light.

Yeah. Its bullshit. But that's why I'm proposing now. By the time we start making plans, we'll hopefully be out of the state.

And it was about time that I spoke up anyway. I was tired of him drinking MY booze. And eating MY food. And breathing MY air. I've been selflessly sharing everything that I have with people for my entire life, and after 24 years of "yessir" and "you can pay me back," it was time for a change. I'm DONE with passive aggressive. SO done.

Also, I'm pretty sure that he's been lying to me about owing the state money as his reason for not paying me back. They take that out of your refund. Secondly, he owes a LOT more people than me and he hasn't made any efforts to pay them back, so I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume that I'm never going to see that grand again. >_____>

You'd have every right to be pissed. That's shitty all over. And if you're going to spend all of your money on alcohol, at least make it GOOD alcohol. >>

Exactly! I seriously never understood how one could spend 75% of there pay check on some of the cheepest beer available

Also, good luck tomorrow, I am SUPER excited to here how it turns out for you!!!! :-) When are you gonna ask her tomorrow?

Well, I have an apartment viewing at 3:30, and that will take about fifteen minutes. Then I'm going to drop by the florist and pick up some flowers for her on my way back. We're having our date at Red Lobster sometime that evening and I suppose it all depends on if the time is right. I don't want to make a public scene and pressure her into making a decision right then and there, so probably when we get back.

Eee! :-) That's so exciting :-D

I'm SUPEREXCITED!

On the other hand, though, her friend Cait is staying the night here. Which means that its going to be tough to keep it secret. And then if Cait knows, she's going to tell her mom, and Caits mom is going to tell Liz's mom. And then Liz's mom is going to be like... "wwwwhhhhhuuuut?"

On the bright side, that will make it a LOT easier for her to come out to her parents... xD

This is very true! Well, keep us posted on here if you get a free second to let us know :-)

I don't see why it's such a problem for kids to come "out of the closet" to their parents. Is it so wrong to love someone who HAPPENS to be the same gender as you?

A little side note here: two of my best friends are bi, and a guy friend of mine is gay. He's also better looking than most straight guys, who seem to enjoy walking around with pants riding down around their knees, showing the world their boxers.
Wow...no wonder I'm not interested in guys.......90% of them dress like morons.

Its hard to come out when you have disparaging slander all over the country, with lynch mobs threatening to kill you and your kind, people pegging you as a pedophile, not being recognized as the same as everyone else in the eyes of the law. It may not be as bad as it has been in the past with other civil rights movements (we still have right to vote, we're not second-class citizens, there's no legal segregation) because the only thing that is officially unequal is that we're being denied the right to marry in some states.

The rest of the stigma is social. Joel was kicked out of his home when he came out. Same with our friend Kaitlyn. They would not talk to her for two years and they're JUST NOW starting to see that they need to talk to her to move her stuff out of their house. She only has one family member that's really on her side, and she's kind of the 'weird aunt.' And once you come out of the closet you lose touch with a lot of friends because, no matter how much of a friend they are, it makes them feel uncomfortable. Even when my friend Bekka came out to me, I was a little uncomfortable with it because... well... I started reading her body language a little differently. It passed, but its always kind of a "huh" moment.

And if you're in the wrong city, it can be a danger to you. Less so with lesbians, but gay men are often threatened in backwater towns like mine.

The reason Liz hasn't come out yet was because her mom will sometimes make comments about "the family thinking she's a lesbian," and it scares her. She has a big, semi-religious family. She doesn't want to be ostracized just yet.

I was fortunate to have an extremely oblivious family when I was living at home. As long as I kept bringing guy friends over, they never questioned it when Tawnya, the cheer leader I was pseudo-dating in high school (I say pseudo because she was never fully comfortable with the idea of labeling each other as girlfriends even secretly) would stay over or spend all weekend, every weekend, at my great grand parents (who I took care of on the weekends) with me, or that she'd never use the guest room even if they offered it to her. The only person who ever called me out on it was my dad, who I think had always wished he had a boy anyways, so I think he always partially perceived me as almost a boy due to my tom boy tendencies. He had come up to my great grands one night because he was to drunk to drive back to state college (where the rest of the family lives, about an hour from my greats) after being out drinking with an old friend from up there who he'd just made contact with again. He found us cuddled up on the couch watching a movie, and ignored it at first, but then, when tony left the room for whatever reason, in true father-son form, asked me something along the lines of "So are you tapping that?"

Talk about awkward... I think I just blushed and told him I was trying to and he was cock blocking me. He only ever brought it up once after that, and just said that the only reason he wished I would stick with just guys is that no matter what gender you are, or what gender you love, you're always gonna run the risk of getting hurt by the other person. He told me that if a guy cheated on me, or hurt me, or broke my heart in any way, he could take him out back and beat the living hell out of him, and he couldn't hit a girl. He was afraid that if a girl hurt me, he couldn't be there to stick up for his baby girl in the only way my dad really understands.

He may not be the best dad in the world, and for all purposes he's really more of a big brother to me as he didn't actually raise me, but he still means well, even if it's poorly executed.

I think that's sweet of him in an odd way.

My parents are VERY understanding. Once I came out, they saw it less as something that made me weird and more a reason to love me regardless of how I was. And coming out to them was an expression of my trust to them. They knew that it took a lot of courage for me to say it, and they were glad that we could be honest with each other. The only concern that my mom has with me dating (and possibly marrying (OMG!(PARENTHESIS))) a girl is that we do live in backwater Midwest. She knows that she's okay with it, but also knows that she's very open minded by comparison. So she just doesn't want me doing anything stupid like... getting a megaphone and declaring my love from the only skyscraper in Muncie.

o_O

...note to self... >_>

Anyway, my experience was an odd one, and I'm sure Liz's isn't as bad as she feels it is, but I can understand the apprehension.

It's very understandable. Especially if she cares for her family and still hopes for there acceptance. Well, I wish her and you both all the best in it, both tomorrow and when she does decide to finally come out to her family.

Lets just hope that one causes the other...

I keep thinking about all these poetic ways to propose and make it sound all... thought out and romantic... but the only way I can think of to do it is "We get along pretty well. Want to get married?" xD

Haha, well, personally I'd recommend throwing in some of that stuff that makes a girl feel like she's really truly special. the "only girl in the world" kinda feeling. You know, stuff like the "You're truly my best friend" and "you're the first person I've ever wanted a future with" or "I want to love you till we're old and gray, and then keep loving you even more after" etc etc. Cheesy, I know, but those things aren't always the bad kinda cheesy if you mean them :-D But, I'm sure that no matter what you plan, like most things in life, it will come out way differently, and you'll improv, and get nervous, and in the end, she'll still understand everything you mean and all that you're trying to say and think that it's sweet and wonderful no matter how you say it, or how you meant to say it :-)

Oh, things NEVER come out the way I intend to say them. Its part of what makes me such an awesome writer. xDD

-self indulgent-

My twin brother wasn't in the closet, per say, he didn't deny that he was gay, he just didn't bring it up unless someone asked him directly. But I agree, there is nothing wrong with loving whom ever you wish to.

How're you all doing today? I can't sleep to save my life. *sighs*

Tooday is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you....

-spindance-

Edit: 10:47 pm.

SHE SAID YES!

YAY!!!!!!!!!! *pop's the little streamer explody cup things and dances* That's so awesome!!!!!! Did she get all teary eyed? Was it beautiful? :-) I love hearing how peoples proposals go. As much as I'm not terribly girly, I'm still a sucker for weddings and related things :-p Soo... details! Please? :-D

guh my nose is all dried out and stuff guh