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Zira Angel 05-25-2014 05:01 PM

That's... helpful, then. Who knows, then?

/shrugs/

/shrugs and moves to the floor, laying face down, voice muffled/ Know what we need in this thread?

Beds. Something to lay on, and possibly do surgery with. Flat. Elevated. Clean.

Not the floor.

Sestina 05-25-2014 05:01 PM

Hmm... Maybe you set your journal to be viewable only to gaia users? I don't know if that's possible though. xD

Zira Angel 05-25-2014 05:04 PM

floor's comfy, though.

I'm going to bed.

Love you. kisskiskiss, etc

take care Ant, do what you can do.

I'm sleep.

Sestina 05-25-2014 05:06 PM

Good night Zira and you take care always [hug]

Lexadis 05-25-2014 05:40 PM

Night Zira~ [heart]

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I could do the same o.0

Zira Angel 05-26-2014 12:22 AM

I think Lexi meant she could sleep, too.

I took kind of an extended nap, which was nice.

People should hang out in my thread. My thread is cool :V

Lexadis 05-26-2014 08:29 AM

Oops I was reading Antie's post and thought it was posted above me or something [sweat]

Antagonist 05-26-2014 11:00 AM

I can't remember if I've set it as Gaia users only...it's quite possible. o ___o;;

Lexadis 05-26-2014 11:02 AM

Maybe [yes]

Hello dear little Ant [glomp] How are you today? [heart]

Antagonist 05-26-2014 12:31 PM

Pretty good. :) Still get a bit teary whenever I think about my grandmother, but otherwise me and my mom had a pretty enjoyable day as I drove around with her doing all the errands and stuff. After we finished the paperwork we had a few hours of free time so we went to a mall to read some books at the bookstore there before joining up with my dad (since he had a conference this morning and part of the afternoon before he could make it back) and then going to do more paperwork and errands, like picking out the urn for her ashes and such.

You?

Lexadis 05-26-2014 12:36 PM

That's good! Here if there is a funeral it gets announced by the mosques, and many people visit the house. So we end up being able to do nothing [gonk]

My day is typical as always! [XD] Nothing to do but to lurk!

Antagonist 05-26-2014 01:22 PM

No mosques for us...we're not even sure what religion my grandmother followed. Probably none of them, though we ended up going with something for a Buddhist since we feel her ways was more in sync with the way of the Buddhist...but then she'll be set to rest next to my grandfather, who is a (distantly connected) Christian, whose ashes are in the 'Christian' floor of the urn towers...>_>;

I ended up asking my parents just what religion they are so I'd know which ritual to use if their day comes. >__>;

SuperZombiePotatoe 05-26-2014 01:24 PM

Zira Angel: I'm in your sig? [rofl]

Lexadis 05-26-2014 02:43 PM

The rituals of different customs and religions! Do Christians leave only the ashes too? And I think my grand father was also a Buddhist. I didn't have the chance of visiting to the funeral, though [:(]
In the town we live everybody is a Muslim [lol] So we have a big cemetery where a group of people would carry it to the mosque.

Elmira Swift 05-26-2014 02:45 PM

Ant, sorry for your loss. Sounds like you and your mom are having to make a lot of decisions quickly with little time to mourn. Give yourself the time when you can[hug]

My first husband was in poor health and we had a discussion about what to do if or when he died maybe a month before he died, so I knew he wanted to be cremated and have us keep the urn at home so he could stay close. We wound up creating what looked like a shrine of sorts consisting of some of his favorite things: memorabilia from his favorite band and TV show - which was something else he asked us to do.

SuperZombiePotatoe 05-26-2014 02:52 PM

My gran was sick for a while, but none of us really discussed what we would do if she died. And, on top of that, you have to bury the person on the same day, according to Islam.
So when she actually passed, we were a bit stunned. We just phoned 2 relatives (One who worked at a funeral home) and started cleaning her up. Within an hour, some other family members arrived and everything was being sorted out. I helped out a lot and I'm glad that my grandfather didn't have to do much. He didn't take it very well.
We managed to get everything done easily and on time, thank God. It only hit us later...

Elmira Swift 05-26-2014 03:02 PM

I did not know that about the funerary customs of Islam!

We live in a very Christian community with very few fellow pagans, so when someone from the pagan community dies, it's kind of a weird buffet of different customs smooshed together since some of the deceased's family, more often than not, isn't pagan. Trying to honor the customs of the deceased while being respectful to the people who are also mourning for them.

Antagonist 05-26-2014 03:13 PM

I think it's difficult to not cremate someone these days regardless of religion, since we have so little space...[sweat] Even the ones who were buried have to have their spot 'recycled' sometimes after a few years...I think they get a few years underground, and then they'll be dug up and their bones picked and placed into an urn and stored away in the urn tower eventually and the spot given to someone else to be buried...

Yeah, we wanted everything to be done as quickly as possible as my mom will be leaving the country again in another ten days or so, and none of the other relatives will be coming. So it'll just be a short and simple ritual for the most part.

@Elmira: Due to some problems with the urn tower that we had bought a spot for for my grandmother (we need a special ID card for them to accept the urn, which unfortunately isn't with us at the moment), I had thought that maybe we would be placing the urn at our house for now, but my parents said that it was 'weird' for one's ash urn to be placed at home...so they'll be putting it at her house instead. I thought it's normal to bring someone's ash urn back but apparently it's not something customary here. [sweat] It's pretty awesome with what you guys did for your first husband, I think I'd like to do that for my parents too, though I'm not sure they'd agree. [XD];;;

@Zombie: Wow, yeah, didn't know that about that custom of Islam! [:O] I wonder why it has to be done on the same day? That seems like there would be a LOT of details to have to iron out in a really short amount of time. [:o]

SuperZombiePotatoe 05-26-2014 03:31 PM

Yeah there's a lot of things that get done. You have to wash the body and that;s usually done by family members. Since my mum couldn't get an early flight, I had to fill in for her. Then you dress then in a "kafn", which is a sheet of cotton material, becuase we don't use coffins. Then, family and friends come to read from the Quran and pray and once that's done the men take the body to the cemetery, while the women pray at home. Usually we reuse graves, so there's always space. There's not really a lot of details. We have to learn what's the etiquette when we're very young and everyone usually pitches in to help [yes]
We bury on the same day mainly because we don't wamt to extend the mourning period, which is 3 days. There's another reason, but I'm not actually sure if I'm right [lol]

Elmira: What exactly is pagan?

Anty: I really hope that everything works out smoothly! Sounds like a lot of little details to work with [XP]

Lexadis 05-26-2014 03:34 PM

It's mainly because.. the body starts rotting [ninja] You can keep it for 3 days, but it's not very advisable. They say that burying the dead as soon as possible causes less pain and grief for them. And it's a lot to do, but thankfully, lots of outsiders help us out [ninja] We have to bathe the body and shroud it, then conduct a prayer, and then carry it to the graveyard and place the body. And it's allowed to bury multiple bodies in the same grave too, so that we we won't run out of space. My dad mentioned that he used to play with the skulls of the dead at the graveyard [ninja]

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SZVPHQ nailed it clean [XP]

Antagonist 05-26-2014 03:58 PM

Wow, thanks for the insight. [:O]

I'm not sure where the tradition/custom came from, but here it's usually customary for family to wait at least seven days before burial/cremation. They also check the calendar and stuff for a 'good day' before burial, etc. Some last as long as 49 days if I remember correctly, though not many family do that these days because it's quite costly.

Zira Angel 05-26-2014 07:20 PM

SuperZombiePotatoe: Yes, yes you are. The thread's hydra must be advertised :V

My gradmother was cremated, and then buried next to her husband. I know mom would prefer to be just buried, but she's told us she won't mind being cremated beforehand. Dad wants to be cremated, and doesn't need to be buried. While I know when my time comes, I'd like to be cremated, and the ashes done however my family at the time wants to deal with them. Be it in the house, buried, or spread someplace.

Personally, I'd prefer not to be spread around, just because of littering laws.

Lexadis 05-26-2014 07:23 PM

I don't want to be cremated [cry]

Zira Angel 05-26-2014 07:27 PM

You don't need to be cremated if you don't wanna, Lexi.

Lexadis 05-26-2014 07:45 PM

I won't be [:D] We bury the dead :3


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