You don't have to look at this from the point of view of "is it better for the Exchange if we have the same/less commons during events". That wasn't the point.

We've just had people bring it up many times that perhaps there should be fewer commons. To continue to ignore the suggestion would be a bad idea, leaving the impression that we weren't interested in reviewing the suggestion that so many people have brought up so many times. To go ahead and just release fewer commons during events without seeing what the majority of users had to say would be worse.

If I've missed your point of the comment, I apologize.

Regarding this I don't quite understand what it's about apparently you find it a problem that people save up gold? Why is this a problem? It's not like we get all that much from posting on the forums anyways so those of us who don't have the opportunity to make a lot of money on event items bought with real money need to save up to buy them in the exchange for very high prices. On top of that some of us only have the commons to buy because we can't buy stuff for RL money so I don't think you should cut down on those or make them more expensive, because there are people who's only celebration related items are the common items that come with each celebratory day if you want people to stop hording gold then the only way is to make it so people won't have to save so much to get the items they need AKA make it easier to get gold. which doesn't solve your problem really thus leaves you in a stalemate where there really is no solution for this problem without upsetting a portion of the users.

It's hard enough for those without the ability to spend REAL money to get items already without people driving up the prizes or cutting down on the items we can get. If things don't go so well in the exchange section of this forum because people don't spend their gold the minute they get it it's purely because they're out for an expensive item and need to save every bit of gold they get from the forums. I've been on the forum for almost a year and have with posting and gaming made a grand total of 6000 gold. I won't be able to buy any event items from that in the exchange because they cost way way more then that. Trading for it won't work because I get laughed out of the trading section for even asking to trade some of my items for something better.

My conclusion is leave it as is...it's hard enough like this.I'm saying it as I see it from the view of someone too piss poor to buy anything in rl let alone spend her real money on a forum on items for an avatar. All the changes mentioned are in the disadvantage of people like myself who can't spend real money on this forum and I fail to see why we should give up what little we can get for our gold just so those who can spend their real money on this will get a better profit.

NOTE THIS IS MY OPINION THAT I WAS ASKED TO GIVE AND GAVE SO DON'T BITE ME IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT OR GET OFFENDED.

Hmm, to be honest... I'm not sure exactly how I feel about releasing fewer commons during events. I could go either way. I don't get the chance to buy every single common I want from the shop during the events especially since I have to save up for the event rares that are released in the special shop. I'm fine with paying for them. A part of me does feel like the recolors could released in between events as some don't really seem to go with the event commons. But I feel that having small shop updates like that might put more work on the staff than if they did it all at once.

Kimi:
I'm not criticizing or anything, but, if I understand EVERYTHING correctly, Mene doesn't have a problem with people saving money. And the only thing people can spend REAL money on are CI's (Contribution Items). You can't buy event items using real money.
And the people spending real money don't drive up prices or cut down on how many items you can get.

Just sayin'... I could, of course, be wrong.

That's the only point i'm able to access this discussion through to be honest, because event commons aren't my thing. For the most part I wallow about in the exchange, and because this thread was linked in Bartuc's thread that's why I came here. Technically, I don't think I should be in here? lols...

The only way event commons affect me, are the amount of damage it's caused for sellers in the exchange. People wanting to purchase are directing their funds towards events, because they're anticipating the common item flood. Which is fair enough, i'm not criticising anybody for anything they do here. But it is having an impact on CIs/EIs.

At the moment CIs aren't worth investing in unless you plan on sticking around forever. Which might impact the amount of appeal they have for people purchasing with real money.

::shrugs:: You can look at it from the POV of the Exchange if you want to. It really doesn't matter, honestly. I'm mostly trying to figure out why people keep bringing up wanting less commons and what effects it might have on other users.

Most people aren't reading before they reply - even a post or two above when they post - so it's really difficult to get a bead on anything anyway.

Oh welp I wish you luck in any case, when it comes to deciding on what steps to take, (or not) lols! Thanks for the thread, it's been pretty interesting reading the various ways this affects users ^^.

As a newer Mene member, I barely have any gold (which I hope will change as I become more active on the site) But I think it would be new-user friendly if items were half price, and having fewer items to pick from would make it easier for a new user to get a complete set of event commons.

i dont even know what im doing..

But the Original Post is all about Baruc's thread ABOUT the Exchange. #.#

I can attest to this. For the few months I did act as a supplier, I found I'd make more by auctioning off pre-order slots than selling sets once they were released. Additionally, I'm not fond of sitting on top of CI's for a long time. I don't even do it with EI's if I can help it (seriously... I only have spare CI sets because no one wants to buy them, not because the prices are too high; I don't even set prices for the things I sell just to make sure I can get people to just LOOK at what I have, without worrying about price).

But yeah, the CI prices don't rise very quickly. I guess that's good for me though, since I can still get CI's I don't have from two years ago for a fairly reasonable price.

Thing is, people want them at half-price. If you release commons normally, they won't be at half-price.
It's the half-price factor that frustrates people, not necessarily the commons themselves. Users who're arguing that there's too much to buy want to take full advantage of the half-price offer, so I don't see how spreading them out would change much.

Shizu: Event commons during events in the event store, yes.
:lol:
Stick around for the events.

I can't wait for the event~ even if they change the prices and what not. (:

Mene always has such adorable event items~ ^-^

And I thought things were fine the way they were~

As I said in another post, it genuinely doesn't matter to me from which angle people approach this discussion. This is purely research for as to how people feel about event commons.

If I had wanted to know if people thought it would affect the Exchange, I would have phrased it as, "Do you think cutting back on event commons would liven up the Exchange?" - but many people have no interest in the Exchange and just want fewer commons for whatever reason.

I'm just trying to figure out, if it's possible, why people might want fewer commons and if it is worth trying out for an event.

So far, it seems like it will probably be worth the experiment to try fewer commons at the Valentine's event to see what peoples' reactions are to it. It's about 50/50 and it would (to tell the truth) make it easier on us during this very busy part of the year if we did the experiment now.

I voted for full price, because I've seen people buy commons at half price for the sole purpose of flipping them for profit later.

I just don't get the point of full price? Why is this even an issue?

Unless you are considering the small minority that must have every single common item in every single shop immediately when items are released in stores, just what is the lure to post commons at full price? Part of the draw during events is the rush of having a sale for a limited time. This is why Black Friday is so insanely busy. People feel the need to buy items during the event or they'll feel like they missed out on a great opportunity!

There is nothing special about releasing commons at full price during an event except for the fact that they are new. But if it wasn't for the 1/2 price sale, I wouldn't pay much attention to them.

Exactly what is wrong with people buying commons at half price in order to sell them for a profit later on? This helps us users that missed the event (or perhaps they ran out of gold) but are still able to find traders selling at 75% store price. It's a win-win situation. Cheaper prices for us buyers and a small steady profit for dedicated active users that saved up and participated during the event.

This! I absolutely agree!

I really just don't get the "there should be fewer" event commons debate. I mean, it's not like the event is the only chance to get the event commons. They'll be around forever. So what if you don't manage to get all of them during the event.

Well, I like the fact that there are a lot of commons at events. But having fewer might lead me to buy more. However, I like the fact that they're at half-price~! :D It's very nice. It's kind of like a sale. It leaves me more gold for even more items~!