Hmm, I see what you mean. Good point.

But the amount of new items doesn't force you to buy them, right? Whereas limiting the amount of new items would adversely affect those that want the recolors and the likes.

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Mmm, like what? :3

Like more ways to make gold
Faster game play, because not everyone has time to sit there and keep playing the games till they get the gold they need on their main and mule.
A maketplace, where you do have to keep updating your shop over and over bring it back to life just to sell
Going though threads to sell and buy

Maybe get like 75% back when you sell commons
I dont sell commons back that often, but that can be a good change

No, it doesn't make me buy them. But I like buying commons, they allow a lot of variety for avatars, and given the choice, I'd buy a bunch of commons over a really expensive CI or two, simply because saving that long is a bitch, when there are so many tempting littler items I want. Less temptation, more money to buy CIs. At least that's how it would for for me. If there are less commons to buy, I would have more money to buy rares.
That said, I'm one of those "year round" active users, I'm here event or no event.
o 3o A lot of users only show up for events.

CI prices have been effected by the lowered gold btw. They are as low as 750g for the new ones.

It isn't necessarily cutting down either. It is spreading out the release of commons to keep more people attuned to the site.

Why would an older user who wants to buy commons suggest to release them spread out. Where the ones outside the event just go into stores for full price rather then half?

So, how are you going to try to generalize their perspective on it? :S

I can't really put that one in a way I don't sound like an asshole, but I am really trying to not sound that way. Just get a better idea of what you mean. :?

i think limiting the commons during events would take the 'want want want' factor out of a lot of people. like me and monstahh, i bet a lot of people really like to buy maybe one or two of... each item... or just something that catches my fancy. lowering how many there are (i think there were like FIFTEEN pages of items last time!) would limit all that gold people 'blow' on here.

also, if i buy a commons, and then i want to sell it maybe a day after the event is over... i'm going to hold onto it for a LONG time. i still have an event item from Gaia Christmas 2006 xD because i'm curious as to how high the price will go so i can get more for it! :D i guess i am a hoarder... XP

I personally with all the lurking I've done in the exchange
I have not yet seen a CI when it first come out sell for 750g
1k yes but not low as 900g

A couple people will let you reserve a set the month before for cheaper prices. This one girl was doing it for this month @1.5k aka 750 gold per.
But she upped her prices for next month.

Just so you know. ^^

Since we've had to buy event rares, I have not had the chance to save up gold for commons. I like the fact that there are so many commons at half price but I don't buy them simply because I rather have at least one set of rares.

I have seen quick sells for 1.5k a set. 750g per item.

I agree with the faster game play idea - except, maybe up the gold cap, haha.

But if we cut down on the event commons, that means less variety for avatars. And if we sspread them out, they won't be at half-price, haha.

I feel that the whole "If there are less commons to buy, I would have more money to buy rares" is just personal self-control versus temptation, and since it's personal, I don't really see it as a reason to cut down on event commons. That's like saying "hide the chocolate so I won't eat as much", haha.

I just like the idea that we have the option of buying a huge variety of commons at half-price. :3

But CI prices were still 2k back in July. And I've seen them drop to 750g before the cap slash too.
Spreading out would make sense. But if people are saying that they don't have enough time between events to save up, when would you be able to put in updates for commons? Plus, they wouldn't be half-price. xD
I don't get your 3rd comment...

That's why I said I tried. xD I put my self into their shoes and try to see what they'd think when they first joined the site. Plus, everyone was a new user some time, so I drew on those experiences as well.
You said that many new users feel that it's impossible with a sort of finality, but I haven't come into contact with enough to firmly state that flat out. So I can't say anything in response to your last comment. :3

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But then the event common store won't be as effective of a gold sink, and we might get the opposite - inflation, haha.

Ahhh Yes! Your right
I should know since I have four set reserved
*slaps head*
Duhhh
:sweat:

Your right....


Yea faster game play would be nice
I get so bored after one game
I personally dont know how others do it
They lower the cap, I still never make it.... well I dont really try

winter ahh! you want people to buy stuff from the exchange, but other people want to buy the commons, if we lower the amount of commons, more money to buy exchange stuff :gonk:

I thought the reduced gold cap was a test run or whatever, but its been like that for a few months now so i don't think they're going to change it T_T

I would personally like to see fewer commons. I don't have very much free time to spend on here hoarding gold, and so when there are events, I rarely am able to buy what I need, even at half price. And when I do have enough gold, the event is over, and it takes me a long time to get enough gold up for just ONE new common.

I think it'd be nice to just see a few rock-your-socks-off commons, then a truck load full of mediocre ones.

my sentiments exactly! why do we need all these things, when we could go from 15+ pages of mediocrity to 2-5 pages of awesome?

But I like going though all the pages!

lol! i hope you were kidding xD all the pages to go through, no 'add to cart' button? *dies*

I like that there are so many commons available, because I usually dont want to buy most of them, them not being my style, while still great. So I like having the options. And I dont feel any desire to buy all of them just because they're half price, so wasting a lot of money doesnt bother me.

its not that at all, i don't buy things just because they are cheap! that's a waste of money, and you won't see me- the poor jerk i am- wasting money! i buy things that i think i will use year round, which is why i was actually very mad at myself when i bought that tinsel from "all under the holiday tree". i did buy the 11 gold earrings in different shades, as well as their matching necklaces :3 because i know for a fact i will use them some time later

I wasnt kidding
and the only reason why we didnt have add to the cart is because the event was a little bit coded
But I think they said when its not coded we can get an add to the cart
I think

Or, if we up the gold cap. ;D
i like the mass amount of choices we have. :3


But taste in items and commons vary greatly. What some people consider mediocre, some people might really want. In addition, we actually don't get that many new commons - we just get a lot of recolors of older items, haha. Which I like, because it helps with matching. :3

But no one can arbitrarily decide the line between mediocre and good for the entire site, especially in tastes for items, haha.

i wasn't saying that, i just was proving my point that its not just ME that think that there was a LOT of items at one time. if i got to make all the decisions on this site there would be no gold cap, new items would be like 1-3 sets every few months because i'm lazy, and a whole bunch of things that would make people very unhappy. this is why i neither want nor do i have the capability to run this site.

Oh gosh. I certainly love the abundance of half-price commons during the more recent events, but I have to agree... I hoard my gold, just so I can save on all the commons I want... I think fewer half-priced commons will make it much easier on me at least, since I wont have to anticipate so much gold going in to just commons... :)

Wow, for only four pages, this thread is LONG. o3o;;

So here's my thoughts so far:

I guess I should still consider myself "new" since I still have a SUPER hard time getting CIs each month, and I haven't been able to get very many event commons AT ALL save for some WN '08 sets that were gifted to me. I've been meaning to try to quest for St. Pat's items for a while now, and I just can't manage to do it because I don't want to fall behind on getting CI's as they're released.

In any case, gold for event items now is totally zapping. The small buffer I had was totally drained out (like I said, small buffer xD). So in that respect, fewer commons at least gives me the feeling that getting a fair amount of commons is achievable but... I don't think that's actually the case, since I got only one common for the last event (which I won; I didn't even buy it!) And there have been SO MANY items that I've wanted from the past two events. The commons have been FANTASTIC lately, especially some of the recolors (NERO'S ROBES <3). I'd love to be able to hoard for commons, but I guess I'm just bad at it.

In my opinion, it goes like this:

Even if you spread out ALL of the commons released in the last year (let's say 1000, even though I know it's not correct) across several releases instead of just event releases, all you would be doing is spreading out the spending patterns; the same amount of gold earned and spent is still the same. You'd have to actually reduce the TOTAL number of items released (to, say, 500) to help get more gold into the system (same earning; less required on spending).

So, in general, I do agree with spreading out item releases through the year to help keep new members sticking around (and to keep up activity so there are fewer "event only" users), but you would still need to reduce the number of items released overall to see any real changes in the menewshan economy.

I completely agree with you Keyori. We just need less new stuff, so we can buy other things, older things, more expensive things, instead of flailing around just barely trying to keep up.

That is basically what I was trying to say, but you expressed it much better. =O <3

Hrm... on the topic of game play... *coughcough*

I was thinking... I recently got addicted to a single aspect of an online community called Crysandrea. It's literally just like Menewsha. But it has one thing for gold making that is just awesome. The forest. I'm sure some people will know what I'm talking about. If we could have a game that not only gave you gold, but also gave you the ability to level up, if you wanted, and be more encouraged to come back and earn gold... hell. That's one addicting feature. It's the only thing that's dragging me into Crysandrea >__>

And yah, less new stuff will make it easier to keep up. Even if that means less prettys ;) We'll just have to use our creativity to be awesome :0