That's too bad, Terr.

But I know that other universities were like mine, cuz when I was an IBM Manager, I went to job fairs at other schools. They assigned Michigan State University to me for some reason. So I would go there, chat with their comp sci students, and then during job fair time, I'd interview about 12-14 students.

My job then was to evaluate them, and make recommendations.
I'd take the evaluations back to IBM, and other managers would review them, look at my recommendations, and decide whether or not to invite the student for a plant visit.

When a student then comes for a plant visit, they usually interview with about 6 managers for various open positions.
Then the managers who interviewed them would duke it out to see who got to make an offer to the student.

I think over time, probably about a dozen or so students that I recommended actually became IBMers at our plant.

When I was a student, at our job fair, I got 4 or 5 plant visits.
I was fortunate enough to get offers from all of them, so I had a choice of where I wanted to work, and which company to go for.

Ter, that's what I thought all job fairs are like. I can't believe it would ever be another way. I can't even wrap my head around what Jean always talks about.

That was back in the early 70's.
I guess maybe they don't do that anymore?

When I was the interviewer, it was in the early 80's.

yeah. times have changed and I don't mind.

It's strange though that schools don't have the kind of rapport with the companies anymore.

It was something that helped the school, AND helped the company!

I dunno. but most companies won't even advertise they're hiring now. they only want the best and a very few of them.

It's so sad.

I guess back in the 70's and 80's there was more of a requirement.
At least in the techhie industries.

But in the mid-late 70's there was a hiring freeze at IBM.
They didn't really open up again until into the 80's.

people hire now, but yeah...they limit the pool of people coming in. you have to go to them and express interest.

I was just chatting with my sister on Skype.
That's such fun to see her when I'm talking to her.

I never saw much point in skype. It doesn't appeal much to me.

It's really great for those long-distance calls that might otherwise cost a fortune.

Plus we use it a lot when my sister is calling during a family gathering. She gets to see and talk to everybody in one shot, from Grandpop to youngest cousin, instead of having the phone passing around to each individual, NOT being able to see faces...

It's really great for us.

I don't understand the appeal of seeing a person's face.

I always have trouble hearing my sister on the phone.
But on Skype for some reason I don't have any trouble at all.

We read a LOT into a person's expression, etc. It gives you more clues as to waht they're talking about.

Also, then we tend to take the computer around and show the other person something.

Yesterday she walked it over to the window to show me all the snow they got outside.

I almost never look at a person when I talk to them, or at least not for long, especially my family. I can't look at my dad when I talk to him for more than a second every now and then. only if I'm nervous and formal do I look at people properly and I feel so overly polite and formal.

You're supposed to look a person in the eye when you speak to them.
That's what I was always taught. It shows that you are paying attention to them.

Hubby hates it when I sit and play at the computer while talking to him.
I usually make sure I turn away from the computer....

I only do it if I don't know the person. I will find something else to do so I won't have to look at someone. even when me and wingsy go to lunch together, we sit across from each other, but we don't really look directly at each other. how can you stand to make contact with anyone for more than a second? eye contact is dominance in the animal world and we're still animals. the submissive always looks away.

Maybe that's why I do it.

I was a woman in a man's world in college (in the engineering dept), and at IBM.
There just weren't too many of us, so you had to be more aggressive.

you're supposed to show eye contact during job interviews because it shows attentiveness and confidence. it's very important to show the confidence.
it's really just a lot of effort to put all your attention on another person too.

It does show that you're making more of an effort to listen to and understand the other person!

Hey! I just won Admin's choice!
Holy cow!

I think it's more about the confidence though. you can look in the person's general direction to show attention. body language shows that more.

I noticed.

I think that Jelly really likes backgrounds now.
Most of the more recent Admin choices have nice backgrounds.

Congrats Jen on winning.

yeah, I think there could be some background love there.

Thanks, Kirin!

Mmm....hubby is making garlic smashed taters.

Sounds yummy and you are welcome.... now I have to debate if I want the clover dresses or those jackets.