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Caleb 09-13-2013 09:37 AM

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The Wandering Poet 09-14-2013 05:21 AM

Some are pirated because people want to get off them as fast as possible [lol]
windows 95/98/xp/7 were the ones I liked.

The main reason I entered the contest, was actually to improve, not to win :)
The mene pixel artists are giving advice and stuff, so it's been a huge help.
The winner doesn't actually win nothing. Potentially, if I do well enough, it will become a real item for newbies to wear.

I'd agree you're joking... but I've seen men start conversations with a girl with just that in mind...
Ah the potential PMS. Some people are actually rather calm during their period. My ex didn't act any different at all. Though yes... some of them become hair triggers... but I dunno... guys seem to be on a hair trigger constantly here... say one wrong thing and they freak out.

More adult-like? I've seen some very adult level avis in my time here.
I agree a lot would need to be changed in order to cater to the male audience. But hey... have you seen the heads on some of the other sites? [lol] They're huge.

Social outcasts? Hmm... I suppose a decent number of users could fit into that category. We also have some major social butterflies too though.
Persistent conversation... I would agree on that. The site had a persistent conversation in 2008 or so, but it took a heavy blow at some point and not many people post here now as compared.
I think the addition of the new forums should help at least a little bit in building some persistent conversation.

At least you gave us a chance :)
I'm glad I was able to make that much of an impact. I did notice you like to talk... walls of text prove that.
How is multiple topics a problem? Mene has a problem of staying on topic all the time [lol]

3 weeks is a bit long =/

Caleb 09-14-2013 11:20 PM

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The Wandering Poet 09-14-2013 11:55 PM

True I may not get paid for it, but I think just getting menewsha's approval that I am capable of making a quality item is reward in itself.
It goes into newbies because newbie items are sold for less gold, so unless I hit a quality where I can get it into the high end shop, it goes in the newbie shop.
My pixel art can be found in 2 places. My most recent work is just trying to make a leaf for some newbie pants.

I think if everyone else can keep calm about it, they should be able to as well.
Pregnancy on the other hand... that's 9 months of potential agony... so by the end yeah they might be a wreck.
Overemotional can be fine. It simply has a time and a place. Like if say a girl needs to cry... sometimes it just needs to happen.
Oh gosh women and weight loss these days. Have you seen the new leg gap fad?
The stereotypical female bathroom is not a warzone, the man has already lost that battle.

By adult I mostly mean just the way a user dresses, there's everything from fishnet stockings to revealing dresses.
You would think that if everything was to scale the head would be too. I mean I think mene's head sizes are pretty decent.

Just don't be in too much of a hurry. That forum can be rather slow. Though, as someone who enjoys making music, I will definitely be posting there.
Also, menewsha doesn't delete threads here, because it breaks things...
From what I have seen, threads start out slow. I made a hangout, and I did not tell a single person where it was. I made them find it. Posts were very slow at first and it slowly get more and more :)

True, quality over quantity can be good, but I do know people have wanted a homework forum for ages, as many users go to school.
I think there being something new though might get people to come out of their shells to explore a bit.

Ah, I can answer that. Accounts can not be deleted. That and the deletion of threads breaks the site and all the gold earned by every user who posted there would be removed, so if say a larger thread is deleted, a lot of people's gold would go negative. So if a user was deleted, it would delete every thread they ever made in theory.

Caleb 09-15-2013 01:24 PM

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The Wandering Poet 09-16-2013 07:36 AM

I've actually seen them create various technologies that recreate pregnancy and period pains though... and it taught me one thing: A lot of guys are total babies about pain.
My opinion on abortion is to not get pregnant in the first place... and for certain instances where it is forced... they have something called a morning after pill.
True crying over stupid things is... stupid... but getting a lot of built up emotion after a hard day can help some people.
Yknow it's funny about female standards... I don't actually find them attractive if they're scrawny... I prefer them to look... I dunno... normal?
You counted? Oh gosh... what number?

Ah yeah... some artists can be realllly sensitive...
I suppose dolls works... as not often do boys play with dolls. Though in my defence I just liked stuffing them under the couch >.>" out of sight out of mind

Not a fan of those vocaloid programs. I've found a handful of vocaloid songs/videos that were very good, but that's it. Many of which are based on a machine, making the voice part of the story in a way.

Jrock? Ehh... Jpop is a bit better in my opinion... though I don't go out of my way to listen to it.

I've had my moments where a homework section could be helpful. Especially when I had a teacher that didn't... yknow... teach... he just told us to read the book. It's like "Why am I even paying you?"

There's really no point in deleting anything. I mean in the end most people wont start reading 4 pages of walls of text back and forth in a fresh meat thread...
To be fair... I've probably been here longer than a few mods... and I have seen the AA talk about this a lot.
True not too serious, but by never deleting them they don't have to worry about it. Though pretty sure I would lose a large amount myself [lol]

Caleb 09-17-2013 09:43 AM

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The Wandering Poet 09-17-2013 07:15 PM

I think it was partly to teach men what women have to go through, but I think it's primary focus was to teach women what they will have to go through if they get pregnant.
Though I do think it would make a fantastic torture device. Saw a video of these rather tough guys trying out this pregnancy contraction thing, and they cried like little babies.

12? Gosh is there enough enough space in a shower for 12 bottles?
Those are actually still my basic expectations of a girl, minus looks don't really matter so much to me. I personally am happiest with a girl to care for :)
A dying breed... that's one way to put it [lol]
So if that isn't what you look for now, what changed? What is your ideal now?

That is true... oversensitive artists asking for critique can be a nightmare...
An artist is their worst enemy when it comes to making something perfect, always seeing their own flaws, it's really a shame when they can't accept advice... it would make a world of difference. I mean heck, my pixel art was horrible until I started getting advice and I've improved a ton.
Toy guns? I just kinda sat at a computer as a kid and rarely got off [lol]

Oh gosh... "user friendly"... their programs do not feel user friendly...
So true... you can really tell the difference between someone who knows what their doing and someone who doesn't. That's why the number of songs I enjoy is so low.

I think there's really only a handful of bands I'd listen to, but I agree, when you spend the whole video trying to figure out what gender they are... that's a problem...

True, but from what I've seen over the years, mene has been mostly used for surveys, when a student needs "opinions" on a topic which they can use for their paper. If they need to know what 2x+5y/2 = 4z+2 is solving for x... a tutor will likely be a bit more helpful I agree.

I see. I hate facebook myself. I'm fine with Menewsha though because my real name is in no way connected to The Wandering Poet. The only place I actually exist on the internet is LinkedIn. I dislike the idea of having my name/address plastered all over the internet though, considering how unusual my name is I'm the only result.
Ah, no need to worry about the admins being half your age, the ones I know are in their 40s.
True I come here a lot, though I quite enjoy our conversations myself :) I hope they can continue.

Caleb 09-20-2013 09:05 AM

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The Wandering Poet 09-21-2013 09:02 AM

It was a pregnancy contraction reenactment device I think it was called. I looked it up recently.

True... but if you're gonna spend forever with her she should look at least "fine" without it. It's just a matter of finding the guy who likes that specific look.
Morals are definitely important.
Where they come from? Like race? Or moreso their family heiritage?
Flings sound very unpleasant... I just don't see how people can get so close to a total stranger...

Quite true. I too have some stuff that I don't share with the public. Though, that is moreso because I'm saving them for a future book.
True, unwise to shun all advice. Though ignoring the people who like to bash artists is always good. Those kinds of people make even more sensitive artists.
I have learned so much from people pointing out my mistakes. Even a few times saying "Use this item as a reference" did wonders. Sure I don't like hearing "You did it wrong" but it's better than "you should just stop trying".
One can never stop improving, in any field.

So true, some of the more cheesy songs work though for amateurs.
Kind of how I feel about poetry. There are so many self proclaimed poets out there, but not many of them know how to use it.
So true, in order to get something creative noticed, really the key thing I have found is that it needs to invoke emotion in the reader. If it can't leave at least some imprint, it will just be stored away as unimportant.

That image... if I saw that in the real world... I would just stare.
Oh dear, you entered the weird part of youtube I take it? [lol]

True, though honestly considering modern parenting... parents don't really seem to care as much about helping their kids with assignments as they used to.

What kind of art do you do?
I one day want to actively post on DA and just see what happens. Once I get good enough to pixel quality items. I do quite enjoy making mouse cursors though.
Okay quoting you word for word a year after deleting it... that's kinda stalkerish... o.o heck I barely remember what you said last post...

Caleb is a good name :)
The admin's don't typically bother people. I just sorta chat with them like normal users.
It's a shame really I agree, though I do know why. Certain personalities I think intimidate more timid people. I've managed some solid conversation with a few, but there are some users on here that I don't like talking to because they never say anything with substance.

Caleb 09-22-2013 02:11 PM

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The Wandering Poet 09-24-2013 07:44 AM

Well at least it teaches guys to respect their girl if she's pregnant. They go through a lot of suffering.

I see... personal history would be quite important I agree... especially given it shapes who you become and who you will be in the future. It's quite true, you can learn so much by history. Sometimes if you look back into your own past, there are little chain reactions that lead you to right here. Had one chain not started, you would be a very different person.
To be honest... I dont actually find "hot" all that attractive [lol]. My primary attractions are personality based. If I don't like their personality, I could never find them physically attractive.
Planning to write a few actually. Poetry book and cook book so far.
Opinions that make sense... that statement describes most of the arguments I see on the internet...
Friendly competition is good. I usually have them with myself [ninja]
I've had my share of experiences with people trying to start trouble with mewhile I have enough credibility to show I wasn't in the wrong. Happened in school all the time growing up too, but I had credibility with the pricipal cause I followed the rules.
True... an artist always has to improve. I have a friend that... on occasion she will just trash her previous artwork and change to a completely different style because her art stopped getting better.
Rebecca actually had a pretty decent voice though (heard it elsewhere), it was just a bad choice of direction to work for that guy.
True though that music being famous is really just being in the right place at the right time.
Agreed, but what I find in poetry is that really anyone can be a poet if they want to be. Just like you could be an artist and only be able to make stickfigures. A talented poet though, can leave their reader with those emotions. Just spilling emotions into a poem is stage 1, stick figures. Stage 2 is refining the poems so that they flow in a way that is appealing. Stage 3, is invoking the proper emotions... stage 3 is hard... because many people will misinterpret art...

Don't forget the cats... youtube is also about 30% cat videos...
So true... now children are raised by TVs and CellPhones =/

Music production is definitely art :)
Most of the time I don't put my stuff on DA because a few sites like tumblr had some really crazy things in their ToS that basically let them steal your work o.o
"Tech Mode"... that kind of sounds how I am when I write poetry... [lol] I start using fancy words XD
Gosh... some people and their memories... I'll never understand the capacity to have a large memory... it's like asking a blind person to describe a mountain in the distance... just can't comprehend it...

To be honest, a lot of the ego is just their personality... most of them didn't change any after getting modship from my point of view [lol]. A lot of times when they get that "attitude" toward an older user, most of the the time it's taken as aplayful joke... so... sarcasm I guess?
I know one mod Longcat, who I have had a lot of user to user conversations with.
That's pretty close to how I treat people. I put everyone at 50%, and they start on a clean slate. Their first impression can make them go up or down :)

Caleb 12-24-2013 12:39 PM

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The Wandering Poet 12-24-2013 06:13 PM

Knowing how to tell the difference between important and not... [headdesk] this last generation hasn't been too good at that.
Looks are important to a degree that's true... but I find if a person's personality is pretty, I can look past some of the physical flaws.

If Scarlett Johanson came up to me asking that... to be completely honest I'd turn her down. Wouldn't be the first "pretty" girl I've shut down. I do try to act like a gentleman to the best of my ability. But, that's just how I want to be :)
As for the morbid obesity, smelling bad, etc. That alone tells you a lot about the person. They may be the nicest person ever, but they are also probably very lazy and unwilling to remedy their weight problem. At the least they can take a bath/shower and remedy the smell.

My cooking skills are "okay", but it would be more geared toward people who can't cook anyways [lol]
I would hope to publish them, but I'd also be doing it for fun.

Competition I agree can be very good. Though, I thing friendly competition rather than agressive competition would have a far better result, like trying to out perform a friend.

With poetry I have always found that when you find someone better, you don't try to "outperform" them, so much as you try to learn how they did it, and apply it to your own work in your own style.
I actually hate when people say my work is "great"... it leaves no room for criticism, they ignore all flaws, and it just gets annoying. When I tell my friend her art looks great, I always try to give her pointers or ideas that can improve her work. She calls me her muse because of how much I help her out ^^

Usually it's best to just forget those who caused trouble. It's just like when you get a criminal getting plastered all over the news. The dude is famous, and the more people talk about him, no matter how bad you describe him, he's famous and people will wind up trying to do the same for fame.
You'd be surprised how many people will pick fights with someone like me.

I see... I know which user you're speaking of. She's really nice, but I have trouble talking to her. She gets upset at me a lot. People gave her mock advice and such? Gosh... no wonder she takes advice so harshly =/

I only know she had a decent singing voice because they had her on the news, and the reporter asked her to sing something else. She can hit notes at least.

I agree with Quality over Quantity. Though that doesn't mean there aren't some great solo artists out there. At the least some modern artists have quite a lot of talent, though most don't.

What are your standards for poetry? I know mine are pretty high myself. Everything has to flow just right.
I don't really remember either, just replying to what you said as best as I can.

Indeed it is long :)

Caleb 12-24-2013 09:26 PM

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The Wandering Poet 12-24-2013 10:58 PM

That's true... all these commercials saying "Buy me you need me" can sort of mess with the mind huh?

Not a gentleman all the way... I mean I don't wear a suit and tophat wielding a cain or anything... though I was tempted...
The reason I turn down someone like that is because when being close to someone, I have to have an emotional connection to them, otherwise it seems sort of pointless.
Pretty sure I'm no saint [lol] but I designed my values growing up and I've held to my ideal logic.

Not disabled no, but for those people who can barely make Top Ramen.

I'm not too sure about the fan base part either to be honest. I don't have one to my knowledge [lol]
When I give a fellow poet advice I usually give details as to why it needs improved. Like say repetitive use of a word breaks flow, lack of flow, or a line just seeming totally off topic. But if it works wether I like it or not I don't really have any reason to give them advice on it.
Just saying "This can be better" doesn't help people much. You need to know what specifically doesn't work...
If a piece goes viral yeah... it's obviously good... unless say you made them a custom version so they'd shut up or something.
One opinion can be very good if you get someone able to detatch themselves from their opinion, their advice can be very valuable at times. With poetry though, there are so many times I've found myself allowed to "break the rules".
Poets aren't really "snobs"... the advice most poets give is always "don't go poetry full time"... full time poets sort of have a history of going insane...

I was helping her because English wasn't her first language and I felt that she would need a little help with flow and such things.

There's a few people I don't like too much on mene... but there's also some pretty awesome people here. Jellysundae, one of the staff here, is one of my favorite people to talk to on here ^^

Yknow, it's things like what you tried to do for Nemo that show you really are a very nice guy at heart. You just show it differently than most. I've seen quite a number of people be mean to her, and it's nice to know some people are trying to help her out ^^

This is true... a voice has a place. Though a mocking bird may manage opera...
It's the same for writers too I've seen. You have these books that are just... awful... and they're being marked as the best sold books of all time or whatever.

Those are, in my opinion, the proper standards for poetry. If it doesn't move you, it should make you think or wonder, or experience SOMETHING. Otherwise it has failed.
I once wrote a poem that defied poetic flow though... it was fun. It started out in perfect english, but by the 30th line, it was unreadable [lol]

Caleb 12-25-2013 04:56 PM

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The Wandering Poet 12-26-2013 10:58 PM

[lol] Leave it to me to post this in the wrong thread XD

I think the worst part is the human Herd Effect. That need to be socially acceptable. So if say a clothing brand is popular, you HAVE to have it, or you aren't popular. Or without THAT game, you aren't "cool" enough.

I mentioned the suit because of the gentleman reference :)
Ah yes... the "Hey watch this" effect... [headdesk]

Quite true you shouldn't just give someone the knowledge to do something. If you give the answers on a test, you may never learn how others percieve the questions. Which really that is a loss for both parties.
On guard over what you're saying? How so?

Oh no, the "Don't go poetry full time" thing was because a lot of full time poets really do go insane... most of them end up comitting suicide after a while.

The staff on Menewsha are one of my favorite features here. Sure they may plant their flag from time to time when it's needed, but most of the time they chat like the rest of us ^^
Well you're bound to run into those people that are annoying... no site is void of them, but thankfully they're not running rampant here :D

That's very true... one thing I have learned is that even if it costs a friendship, you should do what's right.
I suppose it really depends though, I know a few users who care about her...

I don't think I can agree with you there... that song is a loss.

I think that's the same way with graffiti and such as well. You will find that the higher quality it is, the more likely people will protect it. I know there is a town that is actually very proud of it's graffiti... whereas some places it's a nuisance, just scribbles of signatures and such.

Sorry if I shortened it a bit, o.o I have work in an hour or so.

Caleb 12-29-2013 01:59 PM

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The Wandering Poet 12-29-2013 07:15 PM

Don't have to worry about me not understanding you for the most part. You do pretty well besides some basic mistakes here and there. But the word you are trying for is pretty clear.

Being a sheep can be rather sad. Though, I'll admit, they do have their place in the world. There are many "sheep" jobs that require lots of people doing the same thing. Factory work and such.
I to an extent seek approval, but only from those that I specifically want it from. I don't care what a stranger thinks of me.

I think the biggest problem with a lazy artist, is that they are unwilling to break out of habit. I have a friend that every few years her art style will just jump up in quality because she breaks out of her habits.
A lazy artist exists I would say, but they would be the kind of artist that would never improve.

I'm glad that you see us as a friendly place :)

I don't really know if she does or does not have real friends on here, but many of us have tried.
Many users have their reasons for not talking to her though. Even myself. That's not to say people should treat her that way.
I am trying my best to be passive about this topic, as conversations to and of her are rather delecate.

It's not too long, I think the primary length of it is the volume of topics, but this is quite alright of a size.

Caleb 12-31-2013 11:09 AM

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The Wandering Poet 01-02-2014 08:57 AM

Actually when replying to you I paste it into word and delete it as I reply. It does wonders for walls of text.

Trust is one thing I've never understood... so many people are always like "She's my BFF" and the next day they're enemies... I mean... what?
It may not take years for me to earn trust, but it does take a certain type of person.
Maybe that's the herd mentality though... that you'll take a huge risk making a friend so you're not alone?

That's pretty true. Though at least with artists that are doing their art for ingame currency, they at least have a standard which they have to keep up with. So they may understand a little bit. I know with many of them, unless they continue to improve and advance they wont be able to keep them if the art becomes stale and boring.
But I do see your point... outside of professional artists... there aren't many I would ever actually want the art of.
I think there are times where bad art can be useful though. I remember one guy was talking about videogame concept art and he always called them "happy accidents"... granted yeah somehow that turned into some massive dragon out of fricken nowhere... but whatever...

It's understandable, cruelty isn't good, I also know many people here have tried to be her friend. I don't know though, it may take a special kind of person to connect with her. I have friends like that, where they only are able to connect with a handful of people.


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