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leasfy 11-11-2008 04:54 AM

Criticize my new art piece, pwease? '3' [last update:28/11/08]
 

This would be a place where you all can criticize my art work. It would help me heaps to improve the quality of my art

So many update!! sorry guys for have not been in mene for quite some time. Kinda too addicted to Gaia and in fact I opened art shop a little while ago along with my friend and sister[i know the two of them in real life xD]. Feel free to come and visit us at My joint art shop, Aesthetic Pleasure. Anyway, talk about update. Recently I have done quite plenty of them. I really am in need of critiques because up until now my style of drawing keep changing D: oh and also can someone help me found a tutorial for cell shading in Photoshop 7? I am planning to practice to cell shading with mouse.

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5250/nvcdg4.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6972/pujads4.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6585/dxbw4.png
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4733/lavaiy3.png
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6299/fskyz4.png
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7599/lawgr4.th.png


I am glad that I have done quite improvement from last artwork!Being an artist is not as easy as people think. Failure often being faced. For now I am going to submit two art pieces :sweat:
These two were done before I received feedback from melody for the previous art piece :sweat: hopefully I still have improvement <.< http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8928/sample3ts8.png
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5...ted1es9.th.png
This art piece is the one I submitted for Glammy's art contest. I still found it hard to deal with female's body.
Thankfully, some users especially Platinum Child and Sanctuary have given me really useful feedback. I wonder if I have made any progress at all or not.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3...testdu5.th.png
this art piece based on an avatar of menewshan user. The animal is the black fox from Valentine Event
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6...muchtn8.th.png[URL=http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php]
I suck at chibi and made an experimental art in it.
I need some critique that would help me improve it, please
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...sfy/test-2.png


Claz 11-12-2008 03:30 AM

They are very cute, what do you mean you suck at chibis!? :3
Something I think you should try is to have a little more difference in males and females? Unless the examples are the same gender..(sorry if that's true)

leasfy 11-12-2008 06:32 AM


nah they are not the same gender
:ninja: like which part of the body shall I differentiate?

xuvrette 11-12-2008 09:54 AM

Leasfyfy~ I like th e orange yellow chibi~ <3

leasfy 11-12-2008 04:56 PM


thank you xu :eager:
I am tryin to figure out how to draw chibi for avi like yours
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I am still lackin of skill

Crystal Helena 11-14-2008 01:08 AM

You definitely don't suck at chibis! The orange one on the right looks perfectly fine to me. For the sake of critiquing, I think the red one just looks a little "stiff". By this, I mean that the orange chibi's hair is kinda wispy in comparison, and the red one's hair just looks a little too chunky and stiff to me. Other than that, they are very cute, and remind me of Harvest Moon characters. ^___^

leasfy 11-14-2008 10:56 AM


yeah I just checked it again my sketchbook. After ignored the picture I started to realise "wth @ did I draw this small boy?" :\ it looks so strange xD oh and if you had not notice, the outfit of the orange one based on my avi. Not the hairstyle tho. It would be nice if we do have that kind of hairstyle

Now need people to criticize me in my new art piece

TheChibiPhoenix 11-15-2008 06:00 AM

Aw, the animal is so cute~ I'm no good at critiquing animals, though, so that's pretty much all I have to say about that particular part of the piece.

Hopefully my life drawing skills can help me help you, and thus... help me.. somehow.. XD

For the large drawing:
The ellipse at the top of the hat looks like it's tipping too far towards us, if anything, I don't know if we should really be able to see the top of the hat. The tilt of the character's head makes me think that the ellipse on the hat should be flatter.

The slant of the shoulders is quite nice, although the arm furthest away from us starts to get a little bit too bendy. Try giving it the same sort of contour you have the arm closest to us. As for the fingers, they're very nice, but they don't look like they're planted on the ground plane all that well, and with the other hand hidden behind the character's leg, it's hard to be convinced that the character is actually supporting herself with her hands. Straighten out the fingers to give the piece a stronger sense of support.

As for the legs, the straight one is nice, but it's either not in perspective, or it's too short. To fix it you could angle it differently, to fix the perspective and length, or you could make it longer, so that it fits the proportions of the character better. For the leg with the bent knee: legs are about the same size from ankle to knee, and knee to pelvis. Here it looks like the lower leg is longer than the upper leg. Aslo, with the ankles being so close together, it looks like the leg furthest away from us is longer than the one closest to us. How you fix it depends on how you fix the first leg, though.

Woah, that's quite a bit to read through, and I'm still not done! XD

I think the shading is pretty neat. Try shading more than just edges and folds, though. It will make the piece pop more. The shorts and hat are nicely done >w<

As for the Chibis, I think they're so cute~ The only thing I think you need to watch out for is the length of the torso and placement of the feet. Somehow those areas seem a bit awkward.

leasfy 11-15-2008 10:45 AM


oh Thanks!! I started to realize it about everything you have just said! thank you once again

and that is why I am still not confident enough about the chibi :gonk:

Sanctuary 11-16-2008 09:27 PM

There is a lot of detail too it, it looks like it took a long time.

There are lots of thinkings that I like about it, such as the pose, the wrinkles, the shape of the hands, ect., so I'll tell ou what bothers me. Her body seems . . . masculine? The hips need to be wider and she'd the wrong shape for a woman in other ways. She has a chest, but nothing about her body makes me think it should be there nor does her body seem large enough in proportion to her head. The face itself doesn't appeal to me, but that might just be an anime influence that I don't like the result of. It feels as if it doesn't match the level you've gotten to with her body.

That said, I hope you keep drawing, I think you have a great eye for detail and you're doing well.

leasfy 11-17-2008 01:48 AM


thanks!! I cant draw female body *.* I found it easier to draw male's body ... :drool:
-wipes own drool- :oops: I did try to draw the hip a bit bigger but I found it difficult to adjust the belt :cry:

thanks sanctuary for the suggestion and the compliment <33

Sanctuary 11-17-2008 05:06 AM

No problem <3
I love to see people drawing and I like where you're at and going with our drawing ^^

I can't draw men without a reference, so I completely understand you having difficulty with women. Heck, I'm not even fabulous at drawing women xD

leasfy 11-17-2008 03:03 PM


thanks to Platinum Child and you, sanctuary xD
I can draw men's body xD
I think its much better than women as I read yaoi much often than shoujo *o*
I wonder if the new art piece i did has improved much or not

btw :ninja: I purposely photoshopped it [like giving some sparkling and background to hidding my mistakes xD)

Sanctuary 11-17-2008 04:47 PM

I find men's bodies more interesting too, I'm jst so embaressed when I draw them that I never get any practice -chuckle-

Fabulous! It is a big improvement. The only problem is the hand and part of the arm, but forshortening is sooo hard and I didn't even notice it at first.
The body looks great now ^^

leasfy 11-17-2008 04:57 PM


shortening hand is so damn hard!!! *.* my sketchbook is not big enough :cry: I was about to make both of hands cut (like the other part of the hand) well I really did sketch it before but the final sketch showed a really creepy art so I erased again and start again
-sigh-
it was so messy
oh i improve? :heart:
yayy!!!!!

Melody 11-18-2008 01:24 PM

Her boobs look off to me. xD They should fill out the bustier more, but they seem to stop before it and it just makes it look like her chest is too small for her top.

Other than that I really like it. I like the face. xD and that unlike most anime stuff, her head is humanly proportional to her body (well mostly anyway :P)

leasfy 11-18-2008 03:03 PM


I tried before to draw the boobs a bit bigger but >.<
I fail as an artist :cry:
oh well long way to go. Thanks tho for the feedback.
:D

now for these two art pieces. . . the male one is an artwork for Gaia art contest. I start off again from Gaia so I guess the only way I could jump ahead a bit is through doin contest xD while as the female one is an artwork for Twizted child eve

diehly 11-18-2008 04:20 PM

Mikhel's wings look a little to high up for his body...but the girl looks great! Good job!

Eri Wolf 11-18-2008 10:16 PM

Pretty-full. I love the 2nd one, the solia one. It looks very cool xD

Mariku 11-23-2008 09:16 PM

You don't suck at chibis. I love all the pieces you displayed, my favorite being the angel at the top.

leasfy 11-28-2008 08:23 AM

First page updated :D
sorry all for gone too long :cry:
I really need someone to help me get a tut to cell shading since I think I am doin it really bad

so far only able to color the skin in one tone
http://i37.tinypic.com/34sjs03.png

Liath 12-03-2008 07:16 AM

wow, those drawings are really cool. You're good with details and do a good job with anatomy and proportions. The dude in the first drawing has really big hair, though. And I really like the way you draw eyes. The poses are also really good, demonstrated especially by the drawing with the 2 people in it.
And oh yeah, the hands are really good.

Oz.iri.zO 12-03-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leasfy (Post 4293051)
First page updated :D
sorry all for gone too long :cry:
I really need someone to help me get a tut to cell shading since I think I am doin it really bad

so far only able to color the skin in one tone
http://i37.tinypic.com/34sjs03.png

La la la :angel:

I have to disagree with the last comment about proportions.

You've got a really cool style, BUT! You lack on proportions. Altough your drawings have a catchy style to the eye, they have some mistakes/errors that you can always correct to make them look better =) I made u an example of what I'm talking about, and I'll explain it:

First of all, the circles in red: Man proportions for general rule, got 8 heads tall, manga ones got 7, a tall one 7 and a half. It's four from head 'til the waist. The chest usually goes on were the second head ends.

About the wing: Wings, without exception, are like an arm: they've got 3 parts so it can bend to fly or not. Yours only had two.

The hand should look better without that line.

The girl's boobs: As she's not entirely seeing to the left, boobs shouldn't either =P The right boob "bends" or "moves" along the right side of the body, they're near, but they're not one themselves.

About the blue line, the girls body could be a little bit longer than it should.

About the legs: Imagine for a moment that she tries to stand up... It wouldn't be possible! Because the upper part of her leg is just too long. While the men body is usually 8, 7 for manga, women are shorter, so they're like 6 heads tall.

OMG xD I hope this helps you =) Keep up the good work!

http://i34.tinypic.com/2rr2y5u.png

By the way, I may not be the best, but I guess I can explain you how to cell shade the drawing =)

MoodyBats 12-04-2008 03:38 AM

your really good at your chibis!im good at coloring...and thats about it.keep up the good work im sorry but im not good at critique to me i see nothing wrong with it

remaja 12-04-2008 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oz.iri.zO (Post 4314793)
La la la :angel:

I have to disagree with the last comment about proportions.

You've got a really cool style, BUT! You lack on proportions. Altough your drawings have a catchy style to the eye, they have some mistakes/errors that you can always correct to make them look better =) I made u an example of what I'm talking about, and I'll explain it:

First of all, the circles in red: Man proportions for general rule, got 8 heads tall, manga ones got 7, a tall one 7 and a half. It's four from head 'til the waist. The chest usually goes on were the second head ends.

About the wing: Wings, without exception, are like an arm: they've got 3 parts so it can bend to fly or not. Yours only had two.

The hand should look better without that line.

The girl's boobs: As she's not entirely seeing to the left, boobs shouldn't either =P The right boob "bends" or "moves" along the right side of the body, they're near, but they're not one themselves.

About the blue line, the girls body could be a little bit longer than it should.

About the legs: Imagine for a moment that she tries to stand up... It wouldn't be possible! Because the upper part of her leg is just too long. While the men body is usually 8, 7 for manga, women are shorter, so they're like 6 heads tall.

OMG xD I hope this helps you =) Keep up the good work!

http://i34.tinypic.com/2rr2y5u.png

By the way, I may not be the best, but I guess I can explain you how to cell shade the drawing =)


owie o 3 o
now i start to look at my sketch and I guess you are right! @3 @
see this is why I still feel like I need to learn more and more `3`

oh and yup please explain to me how to cell shade the drawing =3

and thanks to others for the compliments:D


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